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You know, thinking about it, the one big thing I'll give to the Stormcloaks side is the issue of alliances.

There are a few incompetent Stormcloak Jarls (the one in Riften is just as friendly to the Black-Briars as the Imperials are, and I haven't liberated Markarth yet but I don't doubt that the Silver-Bloods will be given control afterwards) but (unlike the Imperials) they can be "impeached" in the traditional method without anyone raising too much a fuss. After all, if Ulfric himself did it then it can't be illegal.

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Its a matter of preference. I prefer the Imperials instead of Stormcloaks, even though I'm a Nord. I chose them because I hate the Thalmor, and something that the Thalmor wants is for whats remaining of the Empire to split up, so they can conquer all of Tamriel. Also, if Tiber Septim (Talos) was Dovahkiin, that means that you yourself, the Dovahkiin is a descendant of Talos. Plus, I like to imagine all my guys from all the games are related, like the Neveravine is the Champion of Cyrodil's father, and the Dovahkiin is a grandson of the Champion of Cyrodil.
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Pretty simple choice for me-- Would love to support the Stormcloaks for all the usual reasons, but they are a bunch of racists. Bad as the Empire is, still the better choice.

Have you ever spoken to General Tullius? He seems to consider all Nords to be barbarians incapable of self government and thinks they would all become brigands if the Imperials weren't around to enforce order. That and some other comments sneering at "jarls" and the "Nord sense of honor" make him sound pretty darned racist to my way of thinking. In fact, he sounds worse than Ulfric, who never makes a direct racist comment of any sort but is only accused of racism by others. Yet we never see any proof of those allegations.

 

Then there are the Altmer, who consider themselves superior to all other species on Nirn.

 

And let's not forget the Dunmer, who have some pretty racist attitudes of their own, particularly regarding the Argonians (who they once enslaved). That Dunmer woman who manages the Shatter-Shield operation complains about the nasty treatment she gets from the Nords and follows that up with her own nasty comments about the laziness of the Argonian dock workers. Apparently she is oblivious to her double standard.

 

I think it's hard to single Ulfric out as being more racist than average for Nords. The Khajiit traders are excluded from ALL Nord cities, whether they are under Imperial or Stormcloak control. If you play an Argonian character, you are often greeted by the NPCs with comments like "What do YOU want, lizard?" no matter where you go.

 

Those are just a few examples. Racism seems to be endemic everywhere you look in Tamriel, among all the races. That makes it a little hard to use racism as the defining criteria for deciding who to support.

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Nobody here knows what they're talking about. Stormcloaks are "right", plain and simple.

 

Stormcloaks-

 

Ulfric killed a king with his voice...

The second in command for the Stormcloaks wears a bear on his head.

It's always more fun to rebel.

Stormcloaks are better at activities. (burning, fighting, talking to chicks)

 

Imperials-

 

Imperials hate freedom.

Imperials hate puppies.

An imperial is twice as likely to get your sister pregnant.

They look like Romans.

Romans are ineffectual. They proved this by dying many years ago.

 

I hope this has cleared things up for people.

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Nobody here knows what they're talking about. Stormcloaks are "right", plain and simple.

 

Stormcloaks-

 

Ulfric killed a king with his voice...

The second in command for the Stormcloaks wears a bear on his head.

It's always more fun to rebel.

Stormcloaks are better at activities. (burning, fighting, talking to chicks)

 

Imperials-

 

Imperials hate freedom.

Imperials hate puppies.

An imperial is twice as likely to get your sister pregnant.

They look like Romans.

Romans are ineffectual. They proved this by dying many years ago.

 

I hope this has cleared things up for people.

 

Kudos for you sir.

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Nobody here knows what they're talking about. Stormcloaks are "right", plain and simple.

 

Stormcloaks-

 

Ulfric killed a king with his voice...

The second in command for the Stormcloaks wears a bear on his head.

 

To me seems nothing special ulfric and his second, specially when i cut the head to his second and then cut the thoat to ulfric, seem to me very similar when the first time i cut the throat to tullius and impaled his legate :)

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I will have to go with The Empire despite the implication with the Aldmeri Dominion (frankly i don't see Ulfric destroing The Thalmor), i'm just not fond of people bragging about personal greatness, warrior death and all that Sovngarde thing. Currently i play Khajiit (thieve-merchant) and tend to go with the coin. And if you think about it...Morrowind started with you as an illegal imigrant, Oblivion with you in jail, Skyrim almost getting your head chopped off...next Elder Scrolls will probably start with you beeing dead, so i'm used with the empire trying to classifie/imprison/try to kill/kill me. In that light of circumstances it's better to be friends with the one's you'll be robbing blind. (they will be less suspicious)

 

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