CTD/Freezing on Game Save

[aozgolo]

Kinda banging my head on this one guys. I'm having an issue where the game now crashes almost 95% of the time I try it, it's not entirely random or anything, but I can save in the cell I load into usually but if I try to travel elsewhere it seems to crash. I also occasionally have other random crashes that don't seem dependent on anything. Originally I was unable to travel anywhere at all, but I disabled auto-saves and managed to be able to at least move around the map.

 

I went looking for solutions and first realized I hadn't cleaned my DLCs yet, so I downloaded SSEEdit and cleaned those (LOOT now gives zero warnings). I also downloaded FellrimTools and backed up my save folder before I did anything. Then went in and cleaned up my save (had a bunch of uninstalled mods), tried it again, same issues. Went looking for potential script-heavy mods I used and disabled Populated Skyrim and SkyBIRDs and tried again, still same issues.

These issues never occurred at all before and game has ran very stable up to this point, I did a quest to clear Cragslane Cavern (The Raid) and then fast travelled back to Riften, and tried to wait until morning to go turn in quests, and that's when it first crashed. I have 3 autosaves from the cavern and going to Riften, one quicksave inside the cavern, and one normal save from before I left Riften after I first got the quest. I have older normal saves as well but I would be losing a lot of hours worth of playtime in loading them so I haven't attempted yet.

 

The weirdest part is I used autosave and quicksave a lot between the time I left Riften and when the issue first showed up, yet if I load the save from Riften it has the same CTD-on-save issue now that appeared later.

 

All of those saves cause the same issue of crashing when I try to save, whether it's quicksave, autosave, or regular save.

I do use a lot of mods and have been also using the console as well (mostly TGM and TCL)

 

My load order:

 

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
EFFCore.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
Gray Fox Cowl.esm=1
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
AyleidCitadel.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1
XPMSSE.esp=1
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp=1
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp=1
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp=1
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp=1
ProudspiremanorTNF.esp=1
hjerimtnf.esp=1
VHTNFSSE.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
ForeverCorpse.esp=1
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1
lighter pickaxes & woodcutter axes.esp=1
UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1
TrueStormsSE.esp=1
AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp=1
Runandwalkpaces.esp=1
Perks Unbound - Special Edition.esp=1
No Vampire Attacks In Towns.esp=1
Dawnguard Delayed - Level 30.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1
Bijin AIO.esp=1
Bijin NPCs.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
goodbrother.esp=1
mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp=1
Ambriel.esp=1
GrandPaladinSE.esp=1
Sjel Blad Castle_SE.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
AuroraFollower.esp=1
EFFDialogue.esp=1
DragonsKeep.esp=1
Point The Way.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
Joy of Perspective.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
ogSplendorDragons.esp=1
StormWrathLightning.esp=1
SuperbSerana.esp=1
WitchhunterPack.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp=1
AraneaLenith.esp=1
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp=1
QuickStart3_NoHelmet.esp=1
FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1
Rayg_NoBYOHAttacks.esp=1
Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp=1
AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp=1
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp=1
Clockwork.esp=1
HF_Lakeview_PHB_EX.esp=1
MVABasic.esp=1
TheScarlett.esp=1
Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp=1
TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp=1
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
RiversideLodge.esp=1
DragonfallCastle.esp=1
Artifacts.esp=1
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1
ShadowstarCastle.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
CliffsideCottage.esp=1
Harbourside.esp=1
QL_Queenie'sReachwindEyrie.esp=1
OK_Followers.esp=1
True Master Trainers (Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch).esp=1
Valdmire.esp=1
Ars Metallica.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp=1
ajd_foxyfoxfollower_sse_pc.esp=1
GrahlsOnSolstheim.esp=1
Luna_GoV.esp=1
LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp=1
More Weapons Please.esp=1
Soul Gem Redux - SSE.esp=1
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1
MageBackpack_Large.esp=1
Spouse Daily Routine.esp=1
MoonstoneCastle.esp=1
adventurer's basement - bhm - all dlc.esp=1
ThistleLodge.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
AyleidPalaceNEW.esp=1
PaleMarsh.esp=1
MicroCave1.esp=1
RiverwoodTower.esp=1
Immersive Followers.esp=1
SolitudeWell.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE.esp=1
WoodsmansShack.esp=1
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1
RSChildren - ACK.esp=1
SolsticeCastle.esp=1
PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
HF_Windstad_PHB_EX.esp=1
HF_Heljarchen_PHBXB1_EX.esp=1
Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp=1
BirchwoodManor.esp=1
Eli_Routa - Non-Stormcloak.esp=1
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp=1
DaedricCastle.esp=1
Better Hunters.esp=1
AyleidSanctuary.esp=1
HiddenCityTreasures.esp=1
Solar.esp=1
Compilation.esp=1
notice board.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp=1
AyleidHaven.esp=1
ForgottenCity.esp=1
DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp=1
MoreWerewolves.esp=1
YurianaWench.esp=1
MorthalHome.esp=1
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp=1
WhiteElkShelter.esp=1
DragonbornDamsels.esp=1
Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp=1
SnowElfHut.esp=1
RiverwoodHuntingCabinSE.esp=1
DwemerManorExotic.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
MageRetreat.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Seraphim.esp=1
Oasis.esp=1
HoldBorderBanners.esp=1
S_mink.esp=1
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp=1
GruntTheBear.esp=1
Hel.esp=1
MsRae_OrcHut.esp=1
VampireLordPerksExpanded.esp=1
Mel_Hrokkva.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Yashira.esp=1
Dallas Follower.esp=1
SkyrimSizesLore.esp=1
Mystic_Followers.esp=1
Dezicrah.esp=1
KailanahFollower.esp=1
GKFollowers.esp=1
Aymarandfriends.esp=1
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp=1
SororityGirlsOfSkyrimByAsherz.esp=1
Demetera.esp=1
LV_Cirilla.esp=1
Levionte_Yennefer.esp=1
PrettyCorpses.esp=1
TheFabledBeauties.esp=1
BecomeABard.esp=1
Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp=1
Downwell sse[Player Home].esp=1
MarkarthLab.esp=1
SkyDreamKittens.esp=1
SkyDreamMaidens.esp=1
SkyDreamMerMaids.esp=1
AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp=1
Lilithya.esp=1
Sheiva.esp=1
moonpath.esp=1
Uriellefollower.esp=1
Frida.esp=1
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1
BetterTreasuryHouse.esp=1
RSChildren - Complete.esp=1
RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp=1
Alexis Follower.esp=1
LunaShadowsong.esp=1
Lucila Dragon.esp=1
AsharaErinFollower.esp=1
Xevaria Follower.esp=1
DSLuggage.esp=1
Wendigo.esp=1
FollowerCynthia.esp=1
MillaMilova.esp=1
Ocean Follower.esp=1
Arwen Evenstar.esp=1
Succubus-san.esp=1
LilahWindrunner.esp=1
Juno.esp=1
Valerica_Follower.esp=1
Rolencia.esp=1
Satyress.esp=1
SensualFollower.esp=1
Stormie.esp=1
HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp=1
DaevaFollower.esp=1
manny_mjollnir.esp=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
MannequinStayPut.esp=1
Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp=1
Simply Stronger Dragons.esp=1
Miqo'te Follower.esp=1
R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp=1
Race Scale Remover.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Deadly Wenches.esp=1
fastermining3-3.esp=1
Unlimited Training.esp=1
True Master Trainers (Special Edition).esp=1
Witch Of The Wild.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RWT Lod Fix.esp=1
Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1

 

 

I am sure I still have quite a few script-heavy mods installed, the majority of the mods however are quests, player homes, and followers.

 

Any ideas for what the culprit could be? I use NMM to install and LOOT to sort.

Edited October 22, 2017 by aozgolo

[yian]

Hmmm at this point it is really hard to pinpoint the issue. Have you tried starting a new game? I usually try starting a new game because the save could have been corrupted

[aozgolo]

Hmmm at this point it is really hard to pinpoint the issue. Have you tried starting a new game? I usually try starting a new game because the save could have been corrupted

 

I did try a new game long enough to verify that saves were working on that character, everything did work fine.

 

I'm not completely averse to a new game, I just want to try to solve it as best I can so that it doesn't happen again.