Need help with load order please.

[PeteriusProwler]

Hello so i was modding skyrim se and i used the install order according to the BOSS guide from Lupushegemonia but i simply cannot figure out the load order myself im too dumb for that all i did was sort it with loot and adjust every mod that was in lupus load order from the files section in the exact order but theres still a ton of mods that i didnt adjust because Lupus didnt have them in that load order file :sad: and i just cant figure it out ive been trying for years first with skyrim now with se and i just allways get stuck and f***ed up at the load order :sad:

Load order

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 Campfire.esm

8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp

9 9 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

10 a Joy of Perspective.esp

11 b XPMSSE.esp

12 c Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp

13 d SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

14 e Bent Pines.esp

15 f Gildergreen Regrown.esp

16 10 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

17 11 50 More Perk Points.esp

18 12 WeightLessLegacyAll.esp

19 13 Rebalanced Leveled Lists.esp

20 14 Rebalanced Encounter Zones - Lite.esp

21 15 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

22 16 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

23 17 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp

24 18 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - High Interior, High Exterior.esp

25 19 VioLens SE.esp

26 1a VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp

27 1b ABT SE - Faster Arrows Improved.esp

28 1c ABT SE - Faster Bolts Improved.esp

29 1d sandboxcylinderheight.esp

30 1e dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

31 1f Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

32 20 Beards.esp

33 21 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

34 22 Backshields.esp

35 23 Footprints.esp

36 24 DustEffectsSSE.esp

37 25 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

38 26 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

39 27 WetandCold.esp

40 28 SkyrimIsWindy.esp

41 29 LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp

42 2a Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

43 2b ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

44 2c FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp

45 2d icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

46 2e SkyHUD.esp

47 2f Map Markers Complete.esp

48 30 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

49 31 CrimsonQuestMarkers.esp

50 32 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

51 33 Ars Metallica.esp

52 34 UnreadBooksGlow.esp

53 35 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

54 36 Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

55 37 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp

56 38 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

57 39 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

58 3a ELFX - Weathers.esp

59 3b ELFXEnhancer.esp

60 3c Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

61 3d RealisticWaterTwo.esp

62 3e RWT Lod Fix.esp

63 3f Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp

64 40 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

65 41 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp

66 42 Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp

67 43 Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp

68 44 FlowerGirls SE.esp

69 45 FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp

70 46 Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp

71 47 FNIS.esp

72 48 BrighterLODSnow.esp

73 49 StaffofMagnusFix.esp

74 4a TVDT REMOVED.esp

75 4b Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp

76 4c iNeed.esp

77 4d iNeed - Extended.esp

78 4e Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

79 4f Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

80 50 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp

81 51 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp

82 52 EnchantingAdjustments.esp

83 53 EnchantingReloadPriceBugFix.esp

84 54 AlchemyPotionsIngredientsAdjustments.esp

85 55 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

86 56 Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

87 57 EconomyOverhaulandOrdinatorPatch.esp

88 58 CRF - Lighting Overhaul.esp

89 59 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp

90 5a Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

91 5b TKAA.esp

92 5c Hunterborn.esp

93 5d Frostfall.esp

94 5e Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp

95 5f Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp

96 60 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

97 61 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

98 62 Insignificant Inconsistences Fix.esp

99 63 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

100 64 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp

101 65 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

102 66 Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp

103 67 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

104 68 Fixed body collision.esp

105 69 SSE High Quality Music.esp

106 6a AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp

107 6b AFT - USSEP Patch.esp

108 6c Visible Favorited Gear.esp

109 6d StavesAtback.esp

110 6e SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

111 6f Mortal Enemies.esp

112 70 Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp

113 71 SparklesSE.esp

114 72 PyP_LE+CRF.esp

115 73 PeopleAreStrangers.esp

116 74 Realistic_Impacts.esp

117 75 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

118 76 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

119 77 TerrainLodRedone.esp

120 78 Ordinator Comp Patch.esp

121 79 FallAnim.esp

122 7a FireBurns.esp

123 7b Heart Breaker SE.esp

124 7c Quest Reward Ascension.esp

125 7d Heart Breaker SE - Book Menu.esp

126 7e Lethal Traps.esp

127 7f Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp

128 80 Quest Conflict Fixes.esp

129 81 Realistic-Voice.esp

130 82 Tainted_Blood.esp

131 83 Race Scale Remover.esp

132 84 YOT - Frostfall Module.esp

133 85 YOT - iNeed.esp

134 86 YOT - Hunterborn.esp

135 87 YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp

136 88 Realistic Melee Range.esp

137 89 RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp

138 8a NoRadialBlur.esp

139 8b Realistic Nighteye - Original.esp

140 8c DisableAutoAim.esp

141 8d BecomeABard.esp

142 8e Basic Pregnancy Cycle.esp

143 8f BPC_TKAA.esp

144 90 Animated Eating Redux.esp

145 91 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

146 92 SOS_AOS_Patch.esp

147 93 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - ELFX Weathers Patch.esp

148 94 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp

149 95 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Ordinator Patch.esp

150 96 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp

151 97 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - SkyTEST Patch.esp

152 98 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

153 99 Tainted_Blood_Imperious_Compatibility_Patch.esp

154 9a SoS_ELFX+Enhancer+Weathers_Patch.esp

155 9b more idle markers.esp

156 9c SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp

157 9d RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp

158 9e Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp

159 9f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

160 a0 BPC_FlowerGirls.esp

[yian]

You mentioned you ran LOOT? That should be a good start for now! :)

Edited October 25, 2017 by yian

[tomsite]

Simply said: There is no general rule on how to sort the plethora of mods. There are tons of mods where you must decide what is more important to your gameplay.

 

Lets assume you have two weapon mods.

 

Mod 1 adds a weapon and changes the damage of another one. lets say it lowers the value.

Mod 2 adds a weapon but changes the same damage value as Mod 1, but increases it way above the original value.

 

You will need to decide now what you want, the lower or the higher value and then put one or the other mod higher in the load order.

Same with mods, that for example change the same texture. You like the features of both mods in general, however you prefer one texture from one mod and another from the second mod. One mod changes the ground textures and lets assume water, the other changes wall pieces and the same water as mod 1. With the load order you can now control what water texture you want in the game.

 

Sometimes you will even find mods that make another mod obsolete as both change the same values.

 

Modding bethesda games is an art form and can require a lot of time. Sometimes more time than the actual playthrough. Modding can create or solve conflicts, and sometimes you need to create patches yourself to solve issues and sometimes you can merge several plugins. Merging makes sense if you have a lot of small mods and you want to limit the amount of plugins in your game. In Fallout 4 for example i merged many build plugins. So intead of having 40 plugins i had only 1, which means i could install another 39 plugins before hitting the magical 255. For Skyrim lets assume you have a mod that adds a sword and one that adds a crossbow, with merging you could create one mod out of both and instead of loading two you only load one. Disadvantage of merging: You need to merge again if there is an update.

 

Loot can give you a good starting point to sort your plugins, but generally i hardly use it anymore and then only to have this starting point. Loot can't sort according to your personal preferences and it doesn't sort according to archives (i.e. textures that get overwritten by multiple mods). For myself i use ModOrganizer (MO) and xEdit. MO can show you conflicts with regards to files that get overwritten by another mod and you can solve these conflicts by simply rearranging the order of mods. xEdit can show you conflicts inside the plugins, for example values that get overwritten by another plugin. With xEdit you can also create patches to solve the issues without changing the original mods/plugins.

 

On all topics you can find loads of information on YouTube. I can highly recommend everything from Gopher, Darkfox127 and Elianora. As the underlying architecture for Fallout 4, Skyrim, SSE etc. is the same, you can also get any information on those games and put it to good use in SSE.