The common crash-on-startup

[ianfreddie07]

Well after installing SI and getting compatibility patches and stuff, I decided to have another go at making a load order for SI. Unfortunately it didn't turn out as good as expected. It crashed on startup. I need support for this. What should I add, remove or move in my load order? Thank you in advance for those who can help, even the slightest of help is appreciated.

 

Load Order:

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Cobl Main.esm

AWS-Core.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Cybiades.esm

DremoraCompanion.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp

oc_darker_nights.esp

SkingradBridgeLights.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Crowded Roads.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp

Update My Statue.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

tag_NaturalWildlife.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Dragonbone Armor Set.esp

The Dead Knights.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp

pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp

ExnemZorlackArmory.esp

rdweaponpack1.esp

RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

DMACArmor.esp

arme - excalibur.esp

tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

Doomshard Bow.esp

blacktempler.esp

Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp

BladesSmithyOOO.esp

Klarre Forestheart.esp

PhoenixEquipment.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

samurai.esp

Akaviri Imports.esp

Dragon Knight Armor v. 1.1.esp

Imperial Watch Playable Fixed Gauntlet Texture.esp

Ayelid Wells.esp

KumikoManor.esp

House On The Bluff .V2.esp

DragonHouse.esp

WhiteRoseLodgev2.0.esp

Water's Edge Cottage.esp

LirialsRetreat.esp

FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp

Yellow Rose Cottage.esp

AkaviriKojima.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

Blankenmarch Home.esp

Lakeview2.esp

Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp

ND_LongerSummons_x2.esp

ChaseCameraMod.esp

Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

attack and hide medium v2.1.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

Kal's Skill Overhaul - Bofra's x3.esp

Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp

Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp

Toaster's Legendary Skills.esp

DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp

Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

DA ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp

DA Sprint.esp

FF_Horse_Whistle.esp

Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp

Denock Arrows.esp

Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp

Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp

IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp

Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

PersuasionSI.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Cobl Si.esp

TTHealthRegen.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Kikai-PlayableDremora12.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp

Slof's Playable Xivilai.esp

CM Partners.esp

Living Economy.esp

Level_Rates_Modified_x3.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

FineWeapons for OOO.esp

RustyItems for OOO.esp

OOO-Respawn_Week.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

OOO-Potions.esp

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

OOO-BirthSigns.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp

EnchantedGems_Geomancy.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Bats Addon.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp

PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp

SM_MMMCompatability.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp

TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

WeaponsOfTheNine.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

MountainTower.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Daedric Lord Armor.esp

Cybiades.esp

CybiadesDungeon.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

ULFallenLeafEverglade.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

Knights.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

DremoraCompanion.esp

Hand of Dawn.esp

LastUnicorn.esp

Mighty Umbra.esp

thievery.esp

NakedNord.esp

Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp

ChangeinManagement.esp

SentientWeapon.esp

SentientWeapon - OOO & MOBS.esp

Origin of the Mages Guild.esp

300_Caldera.esp

bartholm.esp

Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp

HoarfrostCastle.esp

AyleidArrows.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

TOTF.esp

Ruin.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - LS RTT TotF.esp

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

Better Cities - Full Additions.esp

Better Cities Full - LEYAWIIN No Flooding.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

Better Cities - Anvil Bay Expansion.esp

BCAnvil-LostCoast Fix.esp

BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

IWR-Windows.esp

WBA Arboretum.esp

KvatchAftermath.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

[bben46]

Just a quick look through - you are dumping a lot of stuff on the game all at once, It would be better to load them in smaller groups. Also, every set of mods is different, so anything we say is tempered by our experiences with certain mods, and probably no one uses the same combination of mods.

 

What I see right off.

The unofficial Oblivion patch should be ahead of the unofficial SI patch.

The Harvest flora DLC files should be loaded after the DLC they modify

I saw 2 different Anvil Bay makeovers in the list, are they compatible? and if so are they in the right order?

 

There are several skills overhauls in the list - they could clash.

A lot of house and castle mods. If any are in the same place that could cause crashes.

Multiple 'beauty' mods, they are infamous for causing things like black eyes, bald heads black faces and others.

 

I had a lot of trouble with Harvest Flora DLC Frostcraig. I finally just removed it as it seemed to conflict with something I was unable to identify.

 

Start by disabling any mod that modifies the same thing as another one. such as AnvilBayExpansion.esp and

Better Cities - Anvil Bay Expansion.esp. They each modify the same places in different ways. usually the last one loaded overwrites the previous.

 

You could easily disable the house mods and add them after you get it to start.

 

And of course, the big overhaul mods, OOO & MMM they require special handling. I have seen a dozen opinions on how to get them to work together. Some things seem to work for certain people but not for others. There are forums dedicated to each of these with lots of advice.

[HouseAtlantic]

Are you running all those mods at once? I had the same start up problem and I was looking for Apachii store in that list, because, it was the cause of the problem for mine, but all I seen for that mod in your list was the nvidia black screen fix esp. How many plug-ins did you install lastly before this happened? Try undoing recently made changes to your data folder and run OBMM Conflict detector to see exactly what's conflicting, but you will have to drop some of those mods by uninstalling them

[ianfreddie07]

BBen46, I have to remember that. UOP before USIP, then Harvest Flora DLC is after the DLC it modifies. Regarding the Anvil Bay, both are compatible.

 

Regarding skill overhauls, I did realize I used some in excess.

 

Maybe I'll remove the houses then place them later.

 

I only use Ren's beauty pack, and some custom races.

 

OOO and MMM should work fine for me.

 

 

HouseAtlantic: Running all mods at once. I had all these plugins before except SI, the compatibility patches for SI, Fighters Stronghold, and some house mods and others I don't remember.

 

I will try your suggestions, but I can't post a load order until Friday. My classes start tomorrow. A lot of grinding again :P