Maquissar Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 And, may I add, it's an amazing book. One of my all time favourites... to think that many people watching that hideous TV programme called "The Big Brother" probably don't know why it's called like that ;) The thought is unslettling! Did any of you read "Farenheit 451" by Ray Bradbury or "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley? If so, did you like them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muennin Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Brave New World and 1984 are each near the top of my favorite fiction list. I agree that "Big Brother" is a tragic and misguided reference to Orwell's masterpiece. Mainstream programming makes me sad. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojlnir Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 It is a very interesting and slightly creepy connection. Does the Ministry of Truth (MW) have any real purpose? I've been up there and had the same experiences as the rest of you, but is it good for anything? Also, has anyone ever found a decent "doublespeak" dictionary or listing of words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmid Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 It is a very interesting and slightly creepy connection. Does the Ministry of Truth (MW) have any real purpose? I've been up there and had the same experiences as the rest of you, but is it good for anything? I've been up there as well, and I've found no purpose to it. Also, has anyone ever found a decent "doublespeak" dictionary or listing of words? Just listen to any politician and make notes. You can write your own that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakkara Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Quick... Someone hide this thread before Shakkara sees it... You're too late, Mah Ha Ha! *insert random conspiracy theory that the US, Russia and China are having secret negotiations to turn this planet into a 1984-kind of place* But looking at the average US citizen we're probably too late already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveme4whoiam Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 (Marxist ßastard @ Feb 6 2004, 05:59 AM) Quick... Someone hide this thread before Shakkara sees it... You're too late, Mah Ha Ha! *insert random conspiracy theory that the US, Russia and China are having secret negotiations to turn this planet into a 1984-kind of place* But looking at the average US citizen we're probably too late already. You've got to love those conspiracy nuts, eh? ;) Brave New World and 1984 are each near the top of my favorite fiction list. I agree that "Big Brother" is a tragic and misguided reference to Orwell's masterpiece. Mainstream programming makes me sad. I read both 1984 and Brave New World after talking with my Yr 10 English teacher, who was a slightly eccentric playwright (the best type of teachers) :lol: Brave New World is an incredibly scary book; i ask anyone who has questions about ethics to read it. On a seperate note, the programme Room 101 on BBC 2 seems to have deviated slightly from Orwell's version. I haven`t read 1984, but I did read animal farm. I guess their main similarity would be the whole thing on comunism. I've read Animal Farm as well; sheer brilliance in my opinion. Its not scary like the other two, but they accurately reflect so much of society. Does it mystify anyone else how people can create so many metaphors for life in a way we accept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakkara Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Well, humans are like sheep, and they won't seem to stop until it's too late, and after that they still don't seem to care. But, did anyone already know that I used to be extremely pro-american? Until I played Crusader (see avatar), which really made me think about capitalism and it's long-term consequences twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsidianKnight Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Yep, I've read it. 1984 scared the s*** out of me. When they were talking about Newspeak and how "Oldspeak" is becoming obsolete.... *shudders*.... "WHAT??? NO CHOCOLATE!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO......." Now that was scary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveme4whoiam Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 But, did anyone already know that I used to be extremely pro-american? Until I played Crusader (see avatar), which really made me think about capitalism and it's long-term consequences twice. :huh: I've never played it, but it sounds intriging (if only i could sp), especially if it made a pro-USA into ths twisted, sadistic Bush-hater i see before me :P This is possibly delving into the realms of debate here, but nevermind. I myself consider myself a Menshevik Marxist. For those who don't know what that is, its basically someone who strictly believes the Marxist theory that as a country evolves it goes through several stages, the last being the perfect society; ie Communism. These ages depend on each other to work, which is why the Russian version didn't work; they dived straight in without building on a strong Capitalist base. Umm, anyway. For those who want to continue this discussion, i will be (after checking that this hasn't already been discussed and we are not going over old ground) opening a thread along these lines in the proper section, so this thread can get back on-topic. On that note... have you noticed how the language (English you understand, since its my primary lingo) is developing into a version of Newspeak? I mean, if you compare it to English used only 50 years ago, you will find so many differences. Imagine what it'll be like in another fifty years... h1 tehr, 1m i4f8d0d, hwz oo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Marxist, you know better than to fall in to the last poster's trap! I can't let it go for you any more than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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