Marked0n3 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hi all, I have started a new game with these plugins (and other mods like texture replacers, bodies, etc.) and first of all in the opening sequence, no matter which faction i choose to follow into the keep after the dragon attack, just after they remove my bindings and we attack the first lot of guards in the keep the AI stops working and they either run straight into a wall and keep doing it or just stand still while saying "come on! this way!!".After messing around with some of my plugins removing quite a few until it got to the point where i didnt want to remove anymore or else i would be playing vanilla, i just decided to run to the end of the opening sequence to see what happened. Once i left the cave the the follower would be there and tell me to either meet their sister or whoever it is for the other faction, so i thought it must just have been a bug in the game and everything else after that worked until i got to the point where i was on my way to whiterun. At this point, as soon as i get anywhere close to whiterun my game either crashes or freezes. Can anyone with knowledge look at my plugins and see what might be causing it please? THis is my list according to BOSS: Skyrim.esm Update.esm WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm JSwords.esm Deus Mons.esm Natural Characters and Companions.esm TondeeRiversong.esm ApachiiHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Extended Colors.esm SoS - The Dungeons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp Natural Skyrim Rain.esp Crimson Tide - Blood.esp DynamicTorches.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp ktxcompleteskyforge.esp Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp MoreLanterns.esp RevisedHorsesFeeding.esp WiS IV - Heroes & Villains.esp Note: Use only one WiS IV - Heroes & villains esp skyui.esp smakit_house_markers.esp armor_eisen.esp Cloaks.esp Cloaks - PC Only.esp Cloaks - No Imperial.esp DCR_Blade_Set.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FS_EveningStar.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp Geralt_RavenArmor_v02b.esp HentaiGaleArmor.esp isilNarsil.esp JSwords.esp Note: Obselete, upgrade to v13+ LFArmors.esp LordAmor.esp Masters of Death.esp nomo1.esp Northborn Fur Hoods.esp Omegared99-ArcherArmor.esp Omegared99-Compilation.esp R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp RangerArmor.esp Raven Set v1.4.esp ScoutArmor.esp TH3WICK3D1-LethoArmor.esp TH3WICK3D1-GeraltSeltkirkArmor.esp WeaponsOf3E.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} YogWeapons.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Weapons and Armor Fixes.esp Weapons and Armor Fixes - Hacks.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} soma's archery overhaul (sao).esp PISE.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} WiS IV - Dark Rainbow.esp Note: Use only one esp --- WiS IV - Rainbow mode or Normal mode or Golden Age or Dark Rainbow or Dark Age Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} WiS IV - Fix FrostspiderGiant.esp Deus Mons.esp WinterholdDestruction.esp Arrows Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp Faster Arrows Improved 100.esp RealisticWaterTextures.esp Spells Cast Light.esp torches for realistic lighting.esp CityForestV2_6.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Realistic Running Speed.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp AlchemyOrganization.esp shenkthieveryoverhaul.esp DeadlyCombat.esp DeadlyCombat_HardcoreDamage.esp DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp DeadlyCombat_PISE_Patch.esp Killmove +.esp ApachiiHair.esp LovelyHairstyles.esp OrientalRace.esp AskFollowerSkills.esp Better Followers - SBP.esp Warning: Delete perktransformeffectscript.pex and transformationsafetyscript.pex in scripts, if exist. Warning: Delete perktransformeffectscript.psc and transformationsafetyscript.psc in scripts/source, if exist Requires: Better Followers - Armor Pack, download it on BF page. Note: Use only one Better Followers - *.esp Better Followers - Dialogue.esp Better Follower Improvements.esp Better NPC - Marriage Pack.esp Horses for followers.esp Natural Characters and Companions.esp Extended Colors - Selection.esp WiS IV - Blood Coins Normal.esp Note: Use only one Blood Coins esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp −Unrecognised Plugins Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. true longbow.esp Half Elf.esp ArrowInTheEverywhere_High_Longer.esp new guards.esp Recover Much More Arrows.esp TondeeRiversong.esp SmallElvesAndWomen.esp Ranger's Cape.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp And i have copied this across to my plugins.txt (obviously deleting the lines that BOSS put in there). I am using the beta 1.5 patch and the newest SKSE for the beta Many thanks in advance :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marked0n3 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Oh i forgot to mention the Killmove + plugin i dont use due to the new ones added with the 1.5 beta, its not in my plugins.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokendeck Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 At this point, as soon as i get anywhere close to whiterun my game either crashes or freezes. Can anyone with knowledge look at my plugins and see what might be causing it please? THis is my list according to BOSS: BLAH BLAH BLAH, then... City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp Have you tried disabling THAT particular mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibastion Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hi all, I have started a new game with these plugins (and other mods like texture replacers, bodies, etc.) and first of all in the opening sequence, no matter which faction i choose to follow into the keep after the dragon attack, just after they remove my bindings and we attack the first lot of guards in the keep the AI stops working and they either run straight into a wall and keep doing it or just stand still while saying "come on! this way!!".After messing around with some of my plugins removing quite a few until it got to the point where i didnt want to remove anymore or else i would be playing vanilla, i just decided to run to the end of the opening sequence to see what happened. Once i left the cave the the follower would be there and tell me to either meet their sister or whoever it is for the other faction, so i thought it must just have been a bug in the game and everything else after that worked until i got to the point where i was on my way to whiterun. At this point, as soon as i get anywhere close to whiterun my game either crashes or freezes. Can anyone with knowledge look at my plugins and see what might be causing it please? THis is my list according to BOSS: Skyrim.esm Update.esm WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm JSwords.esm Deus Mons.esm Natural Characters and Companions.esm TondeeRiversong.esm ApachiiHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Extended Colors.esm SoS - The Dungeons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp Natural Skyrim Rain.esp Crimson Tide - Blood.esp DynamicTorches.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp ktxcompleteskyforge.esp Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp MoreLanterns.esp RevisedHorsesFeeding.esp WiS IV - Heroes & Villains.esp Note: Use only one WiS IV - Heroes & villains esp skyui.esp smakit_house_markers.esp armor_eisen.esp Cloaks.esp Cloaks - PC Only.esp Cloaks - No Imperial.esp DCR_Blade_Set.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FS_EveningStar.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp Geralt_RavenArmor_v02b.esp HentaiGaleArmor.esp isilNarsil.esp JSwords.esp Note: Obselete, upgrade to v13+ LFArmors.esp LordAmor.esp Masters of Death.esp nomo1.esp Northborn Fur Hoods.esp Omegared99-ArcherArmor.esp Omegared99-Compilation.esp R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp RangerArmor.esp Raven Set v1.4.esp ScoutArmor.esp TH3WICK3D1-LethoArmor.esp TH3WICK3D1-GeraltSeltkirkArmor.esp WeaponsOf3E.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} YogWeapons.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Weapons and Armor Fixes.esp Weapons and Armor Fixes - Hacks.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} soma's archery overhaul (sao).esp PISE.esp Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} WiS IV - Dark Rainbow.esp Note: Use only one esp --- WiS IV - Rainbow mode or Normal mode or Golden Age or Dark Rainbow or Dark Age Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} WiS IV - Fix FrostspiderGiant.esp Deus Mons.esp WinterholdDestruction.esp Arrows Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp Faster Arrows Improved 100.esp RealisticWaterTextures.esp Spells Cast Light.esp torches for realistic lighting.esp CityForestV2_6.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Realistic Running Speed.esp Spousetocustomhome.esp AlchemyOrganization.esp shenkthieveryoverhaul.esp DeadlyCombat.esp DeadlyCombat_HardcoreDamage.esp DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp DeadlyCombat_PISE_Patch.esp Killmove +.esp ApachiiHair.esp LovelyHairstyles.esp OrientalRace.esp AskFollowerSkills.esp Better Followers - SBP.esp Warning: Delete perktransformeffectscript.pex and transformationsafetyscript.pex in scripts, if exist. Warning: Delete perktransformeffectscript.psc and transformationsafetyscript.psc in scripts/source, if exist Requires: Better Followers - Armor Pack, download it on BF page. Note: Use only one Better Followers - *.esp Better Followers - Dialogue.esp Better Follower Improvements.esp Better NPC - Marriage Pack.esp Horses for followers.esp Natural Characters and Companions.esp Extended Colors - Selection.esp WiS IV - Blood Coins Normal.esp Note: Use only one Blood Coins esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp −Unrecognised Plugins Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. true longbow.esp Half Elf.esp ArrowInTheEverywhere_High_Longer.esp new guards.esp Recover Much More Arrows.esp TondeeRiversong.esp SmallElvesAndWomen.esp Ranger's Cape.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp And i have copied this across to my plugins.txt (obviously deleting the lines that BOSS put in there). I am using the beta 1.5 patch and the newest SKSE for the beta Many thanks in advance :DSometimes the only way to fix the Whiterun crashes is to unpack all of your BSA files "meshes" with BSA unpacker or OBMM or anything, but that will work for sure. I don't know about your other problem but that's defenatly mod related, remember never change NPC's that are part of quests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marked0n3 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 brokendeck - yeah that is one of the ones i disabled first as that was my immediate thought as to what might cause it. Well actually i disabled both the light fix and the normal city forest .esp, would that mess it up even more if i started a game with that plugin enabled?? Sibastion - thanks i will try that!! thanks guys for the help i will be back with the results soon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibastion Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 brokendeck - yeah that is one of the ones i disabled first as that was my immediate thought as to what might cause it. Well actually i disabled both the light fix and the normal city forest .esp, would that mess it up even more if i started a game with that plugin enabled?? Sibastion - thanks i will try that!! thanks guys for the help i will be back with the results soon!!I forgot to tell you if you unpack your meshes make sure to unpack them to your data folder or it won't work, it actually wont unpack all of them but it will unpack enough for it to have no CTD anymore, make sure you have an extra few gigs of HD space, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marked0n3 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) Sibastion - yeh thanks i did what you said and it seems to have worked :) i also disabled the city forests esp's and also lost art of the blacksmith (i read somewhere it may conflict with other smithing mods) and for now my game seems to be running flawlessly :D Thanks for all your help guys! +kudos for both :P Edited March 17, 2012 by FOX_HOUND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibastion Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Sibastion - yeh thanks i did what you said and it seems to have worked :) i also disabled the city forests esp's and also lost art of the blacksmith (i read somewhere it may conflict with other smithing mods) and for now my game seems to be running flawlessly :D Thanks for all your help guys! +kudos for both :PI'm the man ! "Say it !!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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