cmaesing Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Ok, so I running Skyrim SE heavily modded, albeit stable so far. Thanks for that. However, I recently came several times across a creature called a treant (RefID a236e211) - and have no idea which mod (or is it vanilla Skyrim SE) adds it to my world. The reason for asking is that I am having the "white exclamation mark in red triangle" bug (obviously a mesh issue), which always appears just in the direct vicinity of the treant itself. Would anyone know what this is? It definitely moves with the treant - but does not attack me. I suspect either one of "Beasts of Tamriel", "Immersive Creatures" or "High Level Enemies" - am still checking the details of those mods. Thanks for any insight - would just like to fix this issue. === Load order below === Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1Campfire.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1RSkyrimChildren.esm=1WetandCold.esp=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1dD-Increase Fall Damage.esp=1SkyUI_SE.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1iHUD.esp=1FNIS.esp=1XPMSSE.esp=1Real Roads.esp=1Beards.esp=1DustEffectsSSE.esp=1widescreen_skyui_fix.esp=1DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1iNeed.esp=1iNeed - Extended.esp=1CLARALUX SSE.esp=1MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1Immersive Sounds - 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An NPC Overhaul.esp=1SGEyebrows.esp=1Riverwood Guards.esp=1CoT-AlternativeSoundsSE.esp=1PickUpBooksSKSEDLCSEE.esp=1animals swim.esp=1WhiterunUpgrade.esp=1kankaraya.esp=1MorrowindImports.esp=1QaxeRavenrockShop.esp=1Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp=1RSChildren - Complete.esp=1RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp=1RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp=1Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp=1Settlements Expanded SE - RS Children Patch.esp=1PopulatedCitiesRSChildrenPatch.esp=1Mammoths - Improved Loot.esp=1DrunkzealotsPracticalFantasyWeapons.esp=1Windhelm Docks Pathways SE.esp=1Windhelm Lighthouse.esp=1Silda The Unseen - Dressed.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=1Eli_Breezehome Additional Shrines by Amnesiac - v1.0.esp=1followerdeathnotice.esp=0OwnCivilWar.esp=1NewMerge6.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1AFT - USSEP Patch.esp=1MLU.esp=1NewMerge4.esp=1ScarceMetals v1.esp=13dnpc - Overhual.esp=1Real Bound Bow.esp=1WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp=1MERGED_PATCH_01.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1Extra Guards.esp=1Extra Guards Aggressive Patch VAMPIRE.esp=1fallentreebridges.esp=1Four Horsemen.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) could you please double check your refid? Just to be sure? Do you have Skyrim More Creature and Monster mod? This is a mod from Steam. Edited November 27, 2017 by yian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Yian: No, I don't have any non-Nexus mods installed. The RefIDs is confirmed: Treant = a236e211. I also checked the red triangle RefID, and it came up as a237d54d. Both searches don't return anything via Google - so it might really be a unique issue at my end. Thanks for your time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbincubation Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Are you using this, by chance? Treants are listed in the description of it. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4017/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Are you using this, by chance? Treants are listed in the description of it. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4017/?No, unfortunately (as it might have resolved my issue) not ... But thanks a lot for having checked that mod for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 I might eventually simply go the standard route for mod issues: Deactivate the one that I think might have caused it ... load a save game where I am close to the issue ... and see if it still appears. Can do that later tonight, and will post my findings here. Have a good day everyone - much appreciate your assistance and support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbincubation Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 No worries. That was the only one I saw that mentioned Treants, and there were some comments about the exclamation point. My next guess would be to check out the description pages of the mods you suspect, see if any of them use the same meshes or resources from it. Good luck. Hopefully you get it worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 "Beasts of Tamriel" it is ... But haven't been able to find a fix yet. The RefID should have pointed me towards this mod right away: a237d54d ... With the a2 at the beginning being the position of the relevant mod in my load order! If only I had paid better attention. Have posted my bug on the relevant mod page. Cheers gents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted2815227User Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I think it has something to do with a lighting mod. I get something similar with summoned glowing ethereal creatures on occasion; and the square behaves a bit like a lighting cone would if you take into account the movement of the creature. So I suspect somehow a, or multiple lighting mods tries/try to make the light of the animal in a proper light emitting and shadow casting cone of light or reflection of another light source, and either the creature doesn't carry the right information or there's something in the environment and the mod, or mods possibly conflicting, doesn't like it when the creatures walks over/moves over it, and that jagged shape is the best it can come up with. I only see it rarely and it disappears again soon after as the summoned animal disappears so it's a glitch I can live with and have not tried to find a solution. Edited November 29, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 The workaround is - if you are using SkyUI - to disable via MCM the "Graht-oaks" under the "Races" menu within âBeasts of Tamrielâ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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