nagrom2608 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 I did have Grass on Steroids installed, but this is switched off now. Ive set Verdant to load after Flora Overhaul, as per the mods instructions. My load order is as follows. 1 *Unmanaged: Dawnguard 2 *Unmanaged: HearthFires 3 *Unmanaged: Dragonborn 4 +Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch 5 *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01 6 *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02 7 *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03 8 +Unofficial High Resolution Patch 9 +SkyUI 10 +Prisoner cart fix 11 +Falskaar 12 +Legacy of the Dragonborn (Dragonborn Gallery) 13 +Forgotten Dungeons 14 +Kynesguard and Daedra Hunter Weapons and Armor 15 +Caranthir Tower Reborn 16 +Hammet's Dungeon Packs for LE 17 +Helgen Reborn 18 +Skyrim Sewers 4 19 +Skyrim Underground 20 +Beyond Skyrim - Bruma 21 +Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Tweaks Enhancements and Patches 22 +Unique Border Gates 23 +Skyrim Community College 24 +Archery Gameplay Overhaul 25 +Dawn of Skyrim (Original Collection) 26 +Towns and Villages Enhanced - Riften 27 +Towns and Villages Enhanced - Whiterun 28 +Towns and Villages Enhanced - Solitude 29 +Towns and Villages Enhanced - Riverwood 30 +Towns and Villages Enhanced - Windhelm 31 +Towns and Villages Enhanced - Villages 32 +Expanded Towns and Cities Im. Set. Merged File 33 +Bring Out Your Dead 34 +Climates Of Tamriel-V 35 +Climates of Tamriel - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch 36 +Falskaar - Climates of Tamriel patch 37 +Supreme Storms 38 +Lightning during Thunder Storms 39 +True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5 40 +True Storms- Climates of Tamriel v5 patch 41 +Enhanced Lights and FX 42 +Compatibility Hotfix for ETaC and ELFX 43 +Real Shelter - Full Release 44 +Deadly_Dragons 45 +Ultimate Combat 46 +Frostfall 3.4 Release 47 -Real Shelter Patches 48 -Real Shelter-Frostfall Tents (v2.6) 49 +Campfire - Complete Camping System 50 +Tentapalooza for Campfire 51 +Wet and Cold 52 +Immersive College of Winterhold 53 +Thunderchild - Epic Shouts and Immersion 54 +Phenderix Magic Evolved 55 +Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2 56 +Enhanced Draugr FX 57 +SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators 58 +Skyrim Immersive Creatures 59 +Dovahkiin Retreat Continued 60 +Dovahkiin Hideout Continued 61 +Peaceful Valley 62 +Downreach Reborn - Player Home and Display Hall With Storage (Now with Mannequin Wardrobe Rooms) 63 +Sjel Blad Castle 64 +Immersive Armors 65 +Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim 66 +Enhanced Blood Textures 67 +Wearable Lanterns 68 +Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One 69 +Lanterns of Skyrim Preset for Climates of Tamriel Lvl6 Night (with better flicker effect) 70 +Lanterns Of Skyrim ELFX patch 71 +Lanterns of Skyrim and Towns and Villages Enhanced patch 72 +Royal Armory - New Artifacts 73 +Immersive Patrols 74 +Convenient Horses 75 +D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP animation vanilla friendly 76 +Bruma Signs SMIM patch 77 +Realistic Ragdolls and Force 78 +Immersive Weapons 79 +Celestial Bow 80 +A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget 81 +Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO 82 +Birds of Skyrim 83 +Birds and Flocks Hearthfire Edition 84 +Bells of Skyrim 85 +Run For Your Lives 86 +Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn 87 +Divine Daedric Dawnbreaker (DDD) 88 +Name Your Horse 89 +Immersive Fallen Trees Mod 90 +Deadly Spell Impacts 91 +Skyrim Wayshrines - Immersive Fast Travel - SWIFT 92 +Cloaks of Skyrim 93 +IslandFastTravel - v1-2 94 +Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0 95 +Equip more Rings - English 96 +Fishing In Skyrim 97 +Hunterborn 98 +The Huntsman 99 +The Huntsman - Unofficial Patch Redux 100 +Hunter's Cabin of Riverwood 101 +Inconsequential NPCs 102 +The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod 103 +Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade 104 +UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul 105 +Apotheosis - Lifeless Vaults 106 +Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim 107 +Atlas Map Markers - Updated with MCM 108 +Animated Enchantments Overhaul 109 +DK's Realistic and Lore-Friendly Nord Ships 110 +Roadsigns Redone 111 +A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads 112 +Footprints 113 +Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch Collection 114 +Better Falskaar and Wyrmstooth Map With Roads 115 +ETHEREAL CLOUDS 116 +Bones and Skeletons Retexture 117 +The Draugr Retexture 118 +RUSTIC DRAGON CORPSE 119 +Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks 120 +Skyrim HD - 2K Textures 121 +RUSTIC SOULGEMS 122 +RUSTIC ALCHEMY and ENCHANTING TABLES 123 +RUSTIC POTIONS and POISONS 124 +RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION 125 +RUSTIC COOKING STATION 126 +RUSTIC NORDIC MURALS 127 +RUSTIC WORD WALLS 128 +RUSTIC MONUMENTS AND TOMBSTONES 129 +RUSTIC STANDING STONES 130 +RUSTIC ELDERSCROLL 131 +RUSTIC OVEN - Hearthfires 132 +RUSTIC FORSWORN 133 +RUSTIC POTTERY 134 +RUSTIC DINNERWARE 135 +RUSTIC SILVERWARE 136 +RUSTIC EAST EMPIRE COMPANY SIGNAGE 137 +RUSTIC DEATH HOUND 138 +RUSTIC GARGOYLE 139 +RUSTIC WOODPOST and LIGHTPOST 140 +Better Females by Bella 141 +Holidays 142 +Realistic Smoke and Embers 143 +Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD 144 +Skyland - A Landscape Texture Overhaul 145 +Majestic Mountains 146 +Markarth - The White City 147 +Imprefvicticious 148 +aMidianBorn Nordic Carved 149 +EASIER LOCKPICKING - Without Cheating - Nordic Retexture 150 +Runed Nordic Weapons 151 +A Hunters Life - Hunting Overhaul 152 +Jaxonz Positioner 153 +VioLens - A Killmove Mod 154 +Dragons Giants Mammoths and Trolls Drop Skulls 155 +All Races Drop Skulls 156 +Rabbits of Skyrim 157 +Herds 158 +Snippy - Droid Follower (LE) 159 +The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.) 160 +Realistic Water Two 161 +RealVision ENB 315b 162 +Transparent wave spray Retexture by Pfuscher 163 +Watercolor for ENB and Realistic Water Two 164 -Climates Of Tamriel-Winter 165 +Skyrim Flora Overhaul 166 +Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin 167 +TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation 168 +Enhanced Vanilla Trees 169 *Unmanaged: Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix 170 +RUGNAROK 171 +SkyFalls and SkyMills - Animated Distant Waterfalls and WindMills 172 +AOF Detailed Mountains 173 +Dust Effects 174 +SKSE ini pre-download for lazy users 175 +Crash fixes 176 +Load Game CTD Fix 177 +SafetyLoad 178 +Static Mesh Improvement Mod I'm sure something will load in the wrong order. Load orders aren't my forte. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grospolina Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Looks pretty good. So are you getting any grass now? I only have few small things to suggest:Since you have VioLens, you should get rid of Dance of Death.Ultimate Follower Overhaul is somewhat unstable. You can replace it with Extensible Follower Framework, Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks or Follower Live Package.You should move SMIM closer to the top. Most mods that change meshes include already fixes from SMIM.When starting a new game, remember to disable Helgen Reborn until you're finished the Unbound quest. See the mod description for more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Okay made those changes. I'm still not seeing the grass though. For some reason. I'm going to switch back to Grass on Steroids, to see if that makes any difference. I am noticing quite a drop in FPS, and jerky camera movements now though. Thanks for all this advice. Very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grospolina Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Hmm, didn't mean to make it worse. I just remembered that UFO has an uninstall procedure. You have to go to Riverwood, dismiss your followers and then click Tina the Firefly three times. Can you post your Skyrim.ini, SkyrimPrefs.ini (MO versions) and enblocal.ini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Lucky I don't have any followers. So switching to another follower mod isn't a problem. I'm still not getting any grass. I do however seem to be suffering regular CTD when in a wooded area, or when fast travelling to a wooded area. Such as Riverwood, or when traveling through Falkreath hold. SKYRIM.INI [General]SLocalSavePath=Saves\Nagrom\sLanguage=ENGLISH [Display]fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass]iMinGrassSize=100 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive]sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa, Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa, Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsabInvalidateOlderFiles=1SInvalidationFile= [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 [Papyrus]bEnableLogging=0bEnableTrace=0bLoadDebugInformation=1 [Water]bReflectLODObjects=0bReflectLODLand=0bReflectSky=1bReflectLODTrees=0 [MapMenu]sMapCloudNIF=0bWorldMapNoSkyDepthBlur=1fWorldMapNearDepthBlurScale=0fWorldMapDepthBlurScale=0fWorldMapMaximumDepthBlur=0fMapWorldYawRange=3600.0000fMapWorldMaxHeight=130000.0000fMapWorldMinHeight=5000.0000 SKYRIMPREFS.INI [General]fBrightLightColorB=1.0000fBrightLightColorG=1.0000fBrightLightColorR=1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0[imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1iRadialBlurLevel=0[Display]iBlurDeferredShadowMask=0fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000fShadowDistance=2000.0000iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048iShadowSplitCount=2iMaxAnisotropy=0fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000fGamma=1.2400fDecalLOD2=1500.0000fDecalLOD1=1000.0000fSpecularLODStartFade=200.0000fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000fLightLODStartFade=200.0000iTexMipMapMinimum=0iTexMipMapSkip=1iWaterMultiSamples=0iMultiSample=0iShadowMode=3bTreesReceiveShadows=1bDrawLandShadows=1bFull Screen=1iSize H=1050iSize W=1680fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000iScreenShotIndex=2bShadowMaskZPrepass=0bMainZPrepass=0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=250iMaxDecalsPerFrame=800bFloatPointRenderTarget=1sD3DDevice="Intel® HD Graphics 530"bFXAAEnabled=0iShadowMapResolution=512fShadowBiasScale=0.5000iShadowMaskQuarter=4iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=1iShadowFilter=3bShadowsOnGrass=1bTransparencyMultisampling=0bDeferredShadows=1bDrawShadows=1[Grass]b30GrassVS=0bAllowLoadGrass=0bAllowCreateGrass=1b30GrassVS=1fGrassStartFadeDistance=0.0000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000[MAIN]bGamepadEnable=1bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.0000bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000[GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=2[interface]bDialogueSubtitles=0bGeneralSubtitles=0fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000bShowCompass=1[Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=1bMouseAcceleration=1bUseKinect=0[Particles]iMaxDesired=750[saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000[AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID7=570630326fVal6=1.0000uID6=3954fVal5=1.0000uID5=587618417fVal4=1.0000uID4=587204701fVal3=1.0000uID3=94881fVal2=0.0000uID2=466532fVal1=1.0000uID1=554685fVal0=1.0000uID0=1007612[Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000[TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=12500.0000fBlockMaximumDistance=75000.0000fBlockLevel1Distance=25000.0000fBlockLevel0Distance=15000.0000fSplitDistanceMult=0.4000bShowLODInEditor=0[NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha=0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000fEdgeThickness=10.0000fPointSize=2.5000[Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20[Decals]uMaxDecals=0bDecals=0bSkinnedDecals=0uMaxSkinDecals=0uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=0[LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=2.5000fLODFadeOutMultItems=1.0000fLODFadeOutMultActors=2.5000fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000[Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=1uLastAspectRatio=4[blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=0[blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0[Water]iWaterReflectHeight=512iWaterReflectWidth=512bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterRefractions=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterDepth=1 ENBLOCAL.INI [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=trueProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=falseUseDefferedRendering=trueIgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=trueEnableOcclusionCulling=true [MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=falseReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=falseDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=512VideoMemorySizeMb=7714EnableCompression=trueAutodetectVideoMemorySize=false [THREADS]DataSyncMode=0PriorityMode=0EnableUnsafeFixes=false [MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0 [WINDOW]ForceBorderless=falseForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16ForceLodBias=falseLodBias=0.0AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=falseEnableVSync=trueVSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=falseFPSLimit=10.0 [iNPUT]//shiftKeyCombination=16//f12KeyUseEffect=123//homeKeyFPSLimit=36//num / 106KeyShowFPS=106//print screenKeyScreenshot=44//enterKeyEditor=13//f4KeyFreeVRAM=115//BKeyBruteForce=66KeyDepthOfField=118 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=falseQuality=1DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=trueEnableTemporalAA=falseEnableSubPixelAA=true [FIX]FixGameBugs=trueFixParallaxBugs=trueFixParallaxTerrain=falseFixAliasedTextures=falseIgnoreInventory=trueFixTintGamma=falseRemoveBlur=falseFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=trueFixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE]EnableLongExposureMode=falseTime=1.0BlendMax=0.0 Thanks again.Andy. 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Grospolina Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I think that when you installed your new video card, you configured Skyrim to use it, but it only changed the INI files in your Documents folder, not the ones in your MO profile. The ones you just posted say that your video card is "Intel® HD Graphics 530". Also, I don't see the correct grass settings. Try these changes:Skyrim.ini: [Grass] bAllowCreateGrass=1 bAllowLoadGrass=0 iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=15 iMinGrassSize=70 SkyrimPrefs.ini: sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 I did have those grass settings when I tried Verdant. However Grass on Steroids said to just have the grass size line. I'll try it again with the new card settings. Cheers again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Sorry for the late update. Not been online for a bit. I THINK I may have figured out the problem. I had the FULL Flora Overhaul installed. I think the two mods were conflicting. I'm installing the NO GRASS version of FO. Lets see if this works. I found a step by step tutorial from my goto Skyrim YouTuber Sinitar, for setting up his mods, and load order.  Will these cause problems if I install them midway through my play through? He's using a differant ENB. Rudy. I've given up on Realvision. I just cant get it to look like the screenshots on the Realvision page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grospolina Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 You should try Rudy ENB then. I'm using it too. It has support for multiple weathers (unlike RealVision), is more up to date (works with latest ENB), and has a lot of weather overhaul options. You could use Grass on Steroids with SFO No grass, but SFO has an optional file called SFO on Steroids that you could try too. Changing SFO and grass mods shouldn't screw up your game. I don't think they use any scripts, and that's the main concern when uninstalling mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagrom2608 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) I FINALLY seem to have grass. I found the setting for grass fade in the launcher was turned right down. Wacked it on full, and voila. Grass. Edited December 15, 2017 by nagrom2608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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