SergeantQuackers Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Hey everyone, as the title says, I'm another player who's been having some trouble with CTDs due to my mods. I've run LOOT a bunch of times and it says everything is hunky dory, but when I go out into a city, or just random parts of the Wasteland in general, I constantly CTD. I'm at my wits end and I'm about to just to a completely fresh reinstall of Fallout 4 and be more careful with what mods I install. But before I do that, I wanted to ask if anyone could potentially help detect a problem with my mods list and load order. If not, that's totally cool, this is just my last resort before I do a fresh reinstall as I mentioned above so, no harm in asking! It's been a while since I've played Fallout 4 (since my sessions usually led to me playing for about 5 minutes CTDing, then spending the next 2 hours disabling mods and activating them one by one to see which mod causes the issue. I've done that about, 6 or 7 times and I still can't determine which mod(s) are at fault). Nevertheless, a lot of my mods are outdated but when I was still able to play, I kept them up-to-date, and then the CTDing happened. All of that to say the CTDing (or at least most of it) isn't caused by mods being outdated, this is a problem I've been having for a long time. Here's my mod list/load order. Fallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCCoast.esmArmorKeywords.esmConcealedArmor.esmHomemaker.esmSnap'n Build.esmACS Master.esmGatlingLaserAmmoImprovement.espWeapons of Fate.espWeapons of Fate - Realistic Bullet Speed.espWeapons of Fate - Realistic Bullet Glow Effects.espArmorsmith Extended.espArmorsmith Deserter X.espArmorsmith Elianora.espArmorsmith Ellise.espArmorsmith L0rdofWar.expArmorsmith Automatron.espArmorsmith Far Harbor.espDX Chem I Care Outfit.espDX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.expConcealedArmor.espCROSS_Gear.espCROSS_Cybernetics.espGlovesOfTTheCommonwealth.espRangergearnew.espSpartan-Calyps.espThe Rebel.espToxic Raider Armor.espel_AgentOutfit.espEli_Accessories.espbettervaultsuits.espbetterpatrolman.espzWGirlClothSimply.espfunctionalrings.espEvil Detective Outfit.espHatswithHair.espel_precusorsuit.espcutoffs-Ballzdeep.espSuitDreams(5.Very Heavy).espSuitDreams(1.Very Light).espSuitDreams(2. Light).espSuitDreams(3.Average).espSuitDreams(4.Heavy).espSurvivalist.espTheKite_VTS.espVaultSuitUnzipped.espNoteRacks.espBetterPiper.espBombshellLookForPiper 2F1E.espCompanion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.espCompRedo.espLovingCurie_1.0.3b.espSubtle Face Tweaks - Curie.espVaultMeatGirlV2.0.espVisibleCompanionAffinity.espCraftableAmmunitions.espCraftable Armor Size.espLegendaryModification.espChineseStealthArmorLegendaryMod.espLegendaryModificationMisc.espMoreWeaves.espConvenientStores.espProtoLining.espArmorsmith Proto Vault Suit Extended.espBetter Generators.espBetterStores.espBS-ExtraCustomProps.espBS-FarHarborExpansion.espBrighterSettlementLights.espCraftable dogs.espEli¬_Crafting Shiz 9000.espCrafting Workbench.espCrafting Workbench - GlovesOfTheCommonWealth Patch.espCrafting Workbench - Ammo.espCrafting Workbench - Junk Items.espCrafting Workbench - Power Armor.espFunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.espFunctionalDisplays.espBS-FunctionalDisplaysPatch.espFunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.espFunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.espFunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03-VIS.espHomemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.espMYLadyKillerBed.espWalls and Floors - Simple Intersection.espSimple Intersection.espSMH.espSnap and Build - Modules.espSnap and Build - Patches.espThis is MY Bed (Extended).espFallout4 - Marmor1233 - Deathclaw.espTrueStormsF04.espST_SummerTime.espVivid Waters.espMy_Minutemen.espAndStayBack.espBalanced Fusion Core Drain.espEasyHacking.espLongerPowerLines3x.espMultiple Floors Sandboxing.espNo Aggro Impact Landing.espPA_Materials_Paints.espNuke Screen Effect Remover.espKSHairdos.espLots More Facial Hair.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espCommonwealthChallenges.espDeadBodyCollision.espCBBE.espCuts and Blunts 3.0.espVaultGirl.espDiverseChildren.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espBetterSettlersCleanFacePack.espBetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.espSettlersRename.espkeke-bu Magnolia.2268A_1.0.0.espInsignificant Object Remober.espAdvancedSkeleton.espGeniusGamePerk.espMore detailed perk description.espGhoulishOverhaul.espGN_Home.espLore Friendly Posters.espConelrad 640-1240.espOWR_GOP.espMore Where That Came From Diamond City.espWell_Rested_72H.espImmersiveLoversEmbrace.espPowerArmorT49SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.espBetterWeaponModDescriptions.espBetterWeaponModDescriptionsNLSABR1.02Lite.espBetterWeaponModDescriptionsNLSABR1.02.espValdacilsItemsSorting-AidReducedWeight.espValdacilsItemsSorting-AmmoWeightless.espValdacilsItemsSorting-ArmorBySlot.espValdacilsItemsSorting-CosmeticsByClass.espValdacilsItemsSorting-ExplosivesSortBottom.espValdacilsItemsSorting-Junk+DEF_INV.espValdacilsItemsSorting-MiscValdacilsItemsSorting-ModsValdacilsItemsSorting-NotJunkValdacilsItemsSorting-PerksValdacilsItemsSorting-WeaponsValdacilsItemsSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron.espValdacilsItemsSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.espDeadlyVertibirds.espTougher Cars.espWeightless Vertibird Flare.espDYNAVISION.espextendedLightsWS - No shadows.espPipBoyShadows.espSkibs223Pistol.espMagnum Damage.espCutWeaponModsRestored.espBetterWeaponModDescriptionCWMR2.2Lite.espBetterWeaponModDescriptionCWM42.2.espCutWeaponModsRestored-UniqueWeaponModRecipes.espExtended weapon mods.espGrenadeExpansionPack.espGrenadeExpansionPackAWKCRPatch.espGrenadeExpansionPackValsPatch.espSniperDamage v2.0x.espM1Garand.espM1Garand - AWKCR-VIS.espM1Garand-2xDMG.espm1941.espDD_M79_Launcher_woooot.espFamily Mauser.espMinigunDamager.espMoreBipodAndSniperBarrel.espmip_PTRS41ATR.espMosin.espMP40.espmysteriousmagnum.espNo Lowered Suppressor and Bayonet Range.espRSh-12.espSCAR-LK.espRangerSequoia.espAssaultPhaser.espM14.espM9.espCorvahloWidowShotgun.espUniqueItems.espBossChestsHaveLegendaries.espEli_NukaStuff.espALD Travel Backpack.espCrafting Workbench ALD Backpack Patch.espAWKCR - Automatron.espAWKCR - Far Harbor.espFM_Wasteland_Mashups.espACS Master.espABP Paintings.espACS Paintings.esp Any help would be appreciated, and if I need to provide more information, let me know - I honestly didn't know what information to give so I just went with the mod list. 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SMB92 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Well, Loot has only done part of job here, but you seem to have a number of obsolete plugins like the Better Mod Descriptions lite along with full version? This doesn't seem to be a carefully selected list but rather thrown together without reading descriptions for some mods at least. For example I use Vis, and only have 2 plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantQuackers Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 I try my best to read all of the mod descriptions but I did have the occasional sleepless night of just mindlessly browsing and downloading things, so yeah. The more I think about it, the more I think I've just screwed up my mods list and the better it would be to start over fresh, heh. Ah well. I'll be more careful with sleepless downloading so I don't make anymore boneheaded errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagician16 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) From first look I don't see plugins that should cause immediate CTD's, however that is load order is incredibly messy IMO. Since you mentioned this being a pretty old session of Fallout 4, I imagine the files also is pretty old? In situations like these, where deactivating plugins one by one does not solve the issue, one must look at their loose files (since those get loaded, regardless of if their plugin counterpart is disabled). Specifically you should check out your HUD/UI mods. Go to your Fallout4/Data/Interface folder and examine each .swf file. See if you recognize any of them (and which mod they belong to). Write it down if need be and then remove them from that folder by either moving them out of there temporarily or simply deleting them. The former probably is the safer option. Once those files are not present in Data/Interface, play around and see if that improved in the CTD's aspect. If not, I would suspect something is wrong with other files, your ini files or worst case, your save file. You could also try to reset your .ini files: If you have edited your game's .INI file, restore it to its default state. Many issues can be traced to modification of the game's .INI file.Delete your game's .INI files by navigating to C:\Users\<username>\Documents\my games\Fallout4 (default location) and removing the following files to reset all game settings:Fallout4.iniFallout4Custom.iniFallout4Prefs.ini http://help.bethesda.net/app/answers/detail/a_id/32172/~/what-do-i-do-if-fallout-4-is-crashing-after-i-click-play%3FAfter deleting your ini files you must launch the game once through the default game launcher (i.e steam, no F4SE) so it can generate those files back to their default values. Edited December 13, 2017 by TheMagician16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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