Crash upon main Menu

[LordBamajab]

Crashing upon starting the game and getting to Main Menu through both Steam EXE and NVSE EXE I think it may be because I have too many plugins but I decided I would get someone else's opinions on the matter.

 

Here is my Load Order

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b JIP Selective-Fire.esm

12 c Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

13 d NVInteriors_Core.esm

14 e IWR.esm

15 f FCOMaster.esm

16 10 Factions Reloaded - Merge.esm

17 11 NVInteriors_ComboEdition_AWOP.esm

18 12 Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

19 13 AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

20 14 Momod.esm

21 15 DFB - Random Encounters.esm

22 16 More Perks.esm

23 17 More Perks for Dead Money.esm

24 18 SaxxonsQuestPack.esm

25 19 HonestHearts2.esp

26 1a RustTownV1Master.esm

27 1b CoitoErgoSum.esm

28 1c domecity.esm

29 1d Niner.esm

30 1e The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

31 1f NVR-Strip.esm

32 20 AWOPDeadMoney.esm

33 21 NVWillow.esp

34 22 Stalker Weapons Pack.esm

35 23 Project Nevada - Core.esm

36 24 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

37 25 Caliber.esm

38 26 CaliberXhonesthearts.esm

39 27 CaliberXgunrunners.esm

40 28 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

41 29 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

42 2a More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

43 2b Advanced Recon Tech.esm

44 2c SomeguySeries.esm

45 2d Lone Gunman's Tools of Trade.esm

46 2e More Traits.esm

47 2f Companion Core.esm

48 30 NevadaSkies.esm

49 31 RobCo Certified.esm

50 32 More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

51 33 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

52 34 Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

53 35 D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

54 36 Inventory Access.esm

55 37 Ambient Temperature.esm

56 38 SpeedyResources.esm

57 39 Decrucifixion.esm

58 3a NVR - Extra Actions Lib.esm

59 3b YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

60 3c Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp

61 3d FCO - NPC Changes.esp

62 3e A Better Veronica.esp

63 3f The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

64 40 NevadaSkies - Pitch Black Nights.esp

65 41 Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

66 42 ILO - NVWillow.esp

67 43 NVR-Version_10.esp

68 44 Vurt's WFO.esp

69 45 Loot Vehicles.esp

70 46 Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

71 47 RustTownAdditions3.esp

72 48 ILO - Rust Town 2.esp

73 49 ILO - URWLNV Ultimate Edition Patch.esp

74 4a ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp

75 4b More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

76 4c More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

77 4d Project Nevada - Rebalance Uncapped Max Level.esp

78 4e Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp

79 4f Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

80 50 Advanced Recon Tech.esp

81 51 FlashlightNVSE.esp

82 52 ILO - PipBoy Light.esp

83 53 RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp

84 54 MiscItemIconsNV.esp

85 55 YUP - Hunting Rifle texture patch.esp

86 56 FCO - GlowingOne.esp

87 57 FCO - Beyond Boulder Dome.esp

88 58 FCO - Saxons Quest Collection.esp

89 59 FCO - The New Bison Steve.esp

90 5a FCO - Niner.esp

91 5b FCO - Willow.esp

92 5c PerkEveryLevel.esp

93 5d pipboy2500_edisleado.esp

94 5e Jump Fall Fixer.esp

95 5f KillableKids.esp

96 60 CASM with MCM.esp

97 61 61Flavors.esp

98 62 NVR-NPCs.esp

99 63 001 Project Weaponry.esp

100 64 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

101 65 JSawyer Ultimate.esp

102 66 dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

103 67 AWOPCaliberXAmmoPatch.esp

104 68 Momodlorefriendly.esp

105 69 More Perks Update.esp

106 6a vault22FloralOverhaul.esp

107 6b delilah.esp

108 6c MMUE-CP-EVE.esp

109 6d WeaponModsExpanded.esp

110 6e WMX-DLCMerged.esp

111 6f christinecos.esp

112 70 WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

113 71 FCO - Delilah.esp

114 72 AWOP-MoMod.esp

115 73 HelplessFalling.esp

116 74 populatedcasino.esp

117 75 31 New Food Items.esp

118 76 Goodsprings Reborn.esp

119 77 TheInheritance.esp

120 78 NewVegasUncut 123457 Merged.esp

121 79 MMUE-CP-WMX.esp

122 7a WMX-EVE-AllDLCMerged.esp

123 7b MMUE-CP-AWOP+NVInteriors.esp

124 7c Unique skill Magazines.esp

125 7d ILO - YUP Patch.esp

126 7e Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp

127 7f 1nivVSLArmors.esp

128 80 Russell.esp

129 81 lexx_brahmin-betsy.esp

130 82 IWR - Rebuilt.esp

131 83 EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp

132 84 HonestHearts2b.esp

133 85 The Storyteller.esp

134 86 More Traits Update.esp

135 87 More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

136 88 AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

137 89 UnlimitedCompanions.esp

138 8a MCL_Weapon_Pack.esp

139 8b enclaveradio.esp

140 8c Conelrad 640-1240.esp

141 8d MMUE-CP-ILO.esp

142 8e NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp

143 8f Advanced Recon Gear.esp

144 90 Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

145 91 FCO - Russell.esp

146 92 Powered Power Armor.esp

147 93 Ambient Temperature - PPA.esp

148 94 AWOP - Russell.esp

149 95 Couriers Blunder + Rifle.esp

150 96 RealSmokes.esp

151 97 AutumnLeaves.esp

152 98 Decrucifixion.esp

153 99 Near Death.esp

154 9a NukaCola-Ojo.esp

155 9b SWP40Pistols.esp

156 9c WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

157 9d WMX-POPMerged.esp

158 9e MonsterModLorefriendlyDLC.esp

159 9f Roberts_NewVegas.esp

160 a0 FCO - Roberts Patch.esp

161 a1 FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp

162 a2 JSawyer Ultimate - GRA Merged.esp

163 a3 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

164 a4 AWOP-FCO3.esp

165 a5 Area 51 - Project Roswell.esp

166 a6 Decrucifixion - More Victims.esp

167 a7 TGsArmorCollectionVegas.esp

168 a8 Cheaper Repair Vendors 100%.esp

169 a9 NV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.esp

170 aa NV_STTraitsandPerks.esp

171 ab NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch - NVSE.esp

172 ac Crossbow.esp

173 ad NV_STTraitsandPerks_Crunch.esp

174 ae Sunglasses Shipment.esp

175 af josexysleepwear.esp

176 b0 MMUE-CP-PNALLDLC.esp

177 b1 SWP40 Patch 01.esp

178 b2 NVR - Lock Bombing.esp

179 b3 NVR - Lock Kicking.esp

180 b4 Better Casinos.esp

181 b5 NVR - Trapper Time.esp

182 b6 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

183 b7 ILO - A World of Pain.esp

184 b8 ILO - D.E.I.M.O.S.esp

185 b9 ILO - GS Shack.esp

186 ba ILO - NVInteriors Project - AWOP.esp

187 bb NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

188 bc FNVEDITPATCH.esp

[dubiousintent]

Definitely "too many plugins". The plugin cap is anywhere between 130-140, depending upon your system and mod mix. Prioritize your mod selections, reduce the number until you get a stable game, then please see the wiki "Merged Plugin Guidelines for Personal Use" article on how you can create "merge plugin files" to combine some mods together in order to still keep under your plugin cap.

Did you install Steam to it's default location? If so, please see the wiki "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article for why the original default Steam behavior of installing games to the "C:\Program Files" folder tree was bad (they learned better, and don't do that any more); and why "disabling UAC and running as Administrator" is NOT sufficient, with instructions how to move it. This is the single most important thing you can do to fix and protect yourself against problems in the future. As much of a PITA as that is, it's never going to be any easier than now. Please see the 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article as well. In fact, reading that entire article is recommended.

If you did move Steam out of the default location, then likely any access privilege problem is one of "File and Folder permissions" on the parent "root" folder under which you installed the games. If this is not set correctly to allow at least "System", "Administrators", and "Users" to have "Full Control" then you can't overwrite other files or make changes. You then need to enable the "Properties | Security | Advanced | Change Permissions" setting of the parent folder to enable the box: "Replace all child object permissions with inheritable permissions from this object", so those changes get applied to the existing files and sub-folders.

All of the following may not apply to your specific situation, but are worth repeating anyway.

* Be aware that one error may mask a number of other errors, which will not appear until those masking them have been resolved. Building a stable game consists of resolving each problem individually until none remain, and then realizing that every change you make thereafter (including updates to mods already installed) run the risk of introducing new problems. Be prepared to revert to a previous save if you do so.

* Are you running Win10? Did you get the "Fall Creator's Update" (FCU)? Do you have "New Vegas Stutter Remover" (NVSR) installed? If all three are "true", then please see the 'Issue: Recent (post-Win10 FCU) CTDs after 10-20 minutes of play' (and other "heap size") entries in the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

The FCU update was released in mid-November 2017, so a "brand new" system probably did not come with it installed. However, the default configuration is usually to have OS updates automatically installed. (Those usually start being distributed on the second Tuesday of each month, but may take a week or more to get to everyone.) See the MS "Get the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update" article for how to check your version release and manually pull down the update if necessary. It is important to keep your OS always "up to date" to prevent malware infections.

* Are you using the 4GB Patcher? If not, please see the 'Maximizing use of memory' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

* If you are using the full 4GB of memory, most likely your CTD problem is the default "heap size" is too small. Please see the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

* Move any "inactive" plugins out of the game "Data" folder. They count against the "plugin cap" because they get loaded by the game engine if found, and can cause "Missing Master" problems. Please see the wiki "Missing Masters" article if you get that error message.

* "Compatibility patches" to make one mod work with another need to be placed after (as in "physically lower, higher numbered") in the "load order" than both of the plugins they are designed to make compatible. ESMs should always be placed at the top (lowest numbered) positions in the "load order", followed by the related ESPs though they can be separated from their ESMs by other plugins. LOOT does a good job of determining those basic orders. Getting the "load order" incorrect will cause "Missing Master" errors as well.

* Don't install compatibility patches for mods you do not have installed/active (e.g. get rid of any "TTW" patches if you aren't running TTW).

* Don't install every optional file for a mod. Read the install instructions carefully. Optional files need to be selected on a "case by case" basis. For example: with any mod you usually only need one ESP (and possibly one ESM) "base" file depending upon whether you have all the DLCs active or not. Only if you don't have them all active do you need to install any specific DLC versions if there is an "Ultimate Edition/All/Merged DLC" version.

* Do not use an "Auto-purge" mod for game play. (That was old advice from before we knew better.) They are designed for debugging by mod creator's only, according to the author of the JIP extensions to NVSE. See the 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu', "Cause-2", "Solution-3" entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide for the game settings that do the same job.

You really need to use a "Merge Patch File" with that collection of mods. Please see the 'Third Rule: The Rule of One' and 'Merge Patch File' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

-Dubious-