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So I thought my issue was mod related (it may very well be, I really have no idea), but after much testing and mod removing I found out both my Default Memory Heap and Scrap Heap were filling up to the brim over and over consistently. I'm not sure if this is due to my settings or what so I'm hoping you guys can take a look at my stuff and let me know if something is wrong.

 

Currently my game will last around 5-20 mins before I get ILS, CTD, or Freeze. (all fresh starts)

Using MO.

Using SKSE Memory patch method, not SSME.

Not using any ENB's (except ENBoost) for now. (does ELE count?)

Let me know if you guys need any other information or want me to try other things out.

 

Computer Specs

 

 

OS: Windows 10

CPU: i7-5820K @ 3.30GHZ

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

RAM: 8GB DDR4 (x2) (16GB total)

SSD: 250GB

HD: 3TB

 

Additionally for your use:

Total Available Graphics Memory: 16340MB

Dedicated video Memory: 8192MB

 

 

 

Current Mods and Plugins: https://modwat.ch/u/Raults/

 

Steam/steamapps/common/Skyrim/Mod Organizer/profiles/Default/Skyrim.ini

 

 

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288

 

[Archive]

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

SInvalidationFile=

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa, Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa, Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Audio]

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

 

[Camera]

fMouseWheelZoomSpeed=10.00

 

[Combat]

bForceNPCsUseAmmo=1

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

 

[Controls]

fMouseHeadingSensitivityMax=0.0625

fMouseHeadingXScale=0.0200

fMouseHeadingYScale=0.8500

 

[Decals]

bDecals=1

uMaxSkinDecalPerActor=60

uMaxSkinDecals=100

 

[Display]

bAllowScreenshot=0

fDecalLifetime=300

fLightLODMaxStartFade=8500

fLightLODRange=45000

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000

fSunShadowUpdateTime=0.25

fSunUpdateThreshold=1.5

iPresentInterval=1

 

[General]

bBackgroundLoadVMData=1

fEncumberedReminderTimer=60

fFlickeringLightDistance=8192

sIntroSequence=

sLanguage=ENGLISH

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

uGridsToLoad=5

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

bDrawShaderGrass=1

fGrassFadeRange=7500

fGrassWindMagnitudeMax=125

fGrassWindMagnitudeMin=5

iGrassCellRadius=2

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7

iMinGrassSize=40

 

[interface]

bShowTutorials=0

 

[LightingShader]

fDecalLODFadeEnd=1.1

fDecalLODFadeStart=1

fEnvmapLODFadeEnd=1.1

fEnvmapLODFadeStart=1

 

[LOD]

fDistanceMultiplier=1.00

 

[MapMenu]

fMapWorldMaxPitch=90

fMapWorldMinPitch=0

fMapWorldYawRange=400

 

[Papyrus]

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableProfiling=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000

 

[Trees]

bEnableTreeAnimations=1

bEnableTrees=1

fUpdateBudget=1.5

 

[Water]

bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectLODObjects=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

bReflectSky=0

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

 

 

 

Steam/steamapps/common/Skyrim/Mod Organizer/mods/SKSE/SKSE/SKSE.ini

 

 

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256
[Debug]
WriteMiniDumps=1
[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

EnableDiagnostics=1

 

 

 

Steam/steamapps/common/Skyrim/MemoryBlocksLog.log

 

 

logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
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512MB 256MB
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And there's my enblocal.ini if you need a gander

 

Steam/steamapps/common/Skyrim/enblocal.ini

 

 

[PROXY]

EnableProxyLibrary=false
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll
[GLOBAL]
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true
UseDefferedRendering=false
IgnoreCreationKit=true
[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true
EnableOcclusionCulling=true
[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024
VideoMemorySizeMb=15874
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
[THREADS]
DataSyncMode=0
PriorityMode=0
EnableUnsafeFixes=false
[MULTIHEAD]
ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false
VideoAdapterIndex=0
[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=false
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false
[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true
MaxAnisotropy=16
ForceLodBias=false
LodBias=0.0
AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false
EnableVSync=true
VSyncSkipNumFrames=0
[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=false
FPSLimit=10.0
[iNPUT]
//shift
KeyCombination=16
//f12
KeyUseEffect=123
//home
KeyFPSLimit=36
//num / 106
KeyShowFPS=106
//print screen
KeyScreenshot=44
//enter
KeyEditor=13
//f4
KeyFreeVRAM=115
//B
KeyBruteForce=66
KeyDepthOfField=118
[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]
Enable=false
Quality=1
DesiredFPS=20.0
[ANTIALIASING]
EnableEdgeAA=true
EnableTemporalAA=false
EnableSubPixelAA=true
[FIX]
FixGameBugs=true
FixParallaxBugs=true
FixParallaxTerrain=false
FixAliasedTextures=true
IgnoreInventory=true
FixTintGamma=true
RemoveBlur=false
FixSubSurfaceScattering=true
FixSkyReflection=true
FixCursorVisibility=true
FixLag=false

 

 

 

EDIT: So after continued testing on the issue, I of course discovered this: http://forum.step-project.com/topic/4985-memory-blocks-log-by-sheson/page-2

 

Scroll down a bit and you'll see the explanation for memory blocks and why you may or may not need to increase your default heap size. I increased my heap size and the game did not crash after 20 mins including load screens and deaths, this is a YUGE win. It would appear that memory allocation is really personalized to your own experience with modding and gaming. I would suggest that if you plan on doing any modding that the thread I posted above is utilized as it has great knowledge on preventing CTD, ILS, and Freezes.

I haven't done enough testing to say that my problem is solved, I'll need to play some more, but I'll report back after I finish mod installation to tell if my 500+ modded game is running smooth or not.

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You have two instances of [Papyrus]

What's that all about?

Reset your ini's See if that help.. When in doubt that should be your first port of call.

Also, no bashed/merged or MatorSmash Patch? (You won't need all three, just for clarity)

This would be in your interest in learning





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Also, I'm not 100% on this, shouldn't Cutting room floor be much higher?

And I'm sure lighting mods go after anything that adds or modifies cells?

Your load order seems pretty borked to me, LOOT? BOSS? Don't rely solely on those, you have to think, what does X-mod change?, how does it affect what precedes it?

 

Enboost has given me trouble in the past (my fault) try disabling it (move the files out of the data folder.)

Here's a copy of my current load order (not complete or fully tested yet, working on it)

Look at the cohesion, the logic behind it.

 

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Nock2Tip.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
daymoyl.esm
Campfire.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Falskaar.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
FISS.esp
Race Scale Remover.esp
Fixes-1.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
bugi_quicksave.esp
Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
JoyOfShips Merged.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
TextureMerge.esp
[Population]NPC Travelers Cats and Dogs RM.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Interactive Clutter - Legendary.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
3DNPC.esp
NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp
TKAA.esp
Falskaar TKAA Patch.esp
3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
Real Roads.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
High Level Enemies RM.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
[immersive]Armors Weapons Jewelry RM.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Omegared99-GalleryOfArmor.esp
Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp
Merged Eyes RM.esp
Merged Hair and Beards RM.esp
Merged Jewelry and Piercings RM.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
IHSS.esp
RideSharing.esp
Five O'Clock Shadow.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
JaxonzNameGen.esp
More Spells RM.esp
Perk Tree Overhaul RM.esp
Predator Vision.esp
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp
TradeBarter.esp
SpeedCasting.esp
LookCloser.esp
AnonymousPeople.esp
GPLockedGates.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Hypothermia.esp
RHSP_Widget.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
DA-Survival.esp
JZBai_Hidespots.esp
ArcheryMerge.esp
CombatMerge2.esp
Master of Disguise - Legendary.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 - High Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
InterfaceMerge.esp
SkyUI.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS.esp
AtlasMerge.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
Better Vampires.esp
BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
BVandRB_Formlist.esp
DarkManeuvers.esp
Real Feeding V3.esp
VL No AoE Drain.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
AnnaNPCs.esp
Inigo.esp
Geralt.esp
MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
Unique Shops and Stores.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
HammetDungeons.esp
AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
PCE - USLEEP Patch.esp
ServicesAssets.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
PWwaterfall.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
TrueStorms.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
TrueStorms-Minty-Supreme.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp
ELFX-LoS-Merge.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
SolitudeExterior.esp
WhiterunExterior.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

 



Just as disclaimer, my knowledge is good but limited so do further research, I could be wrong.

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Also, I'm not 100% on this, shouldn't Cutting room floor be much higher?

 

And I'm sure lighting mods go after anything that adds or modifies cells?

 

Your load order seems pretty borked to me, LOOT? BOSS? Don't rely solely on those, you have to think, what does X-mod change?, how does it affect what precedes it?

 

Enboost has given me trouble in the past (my fault) try disabling it (move the files out of the data folder.)

Here's a copy of my current load order (not complete or fully tested yet, working on it)

 

Look at the cohesion, the logic behind it.

 

 

 

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Nock2Tip.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
daymoyl.esm
Campfire.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Falskaar.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
FISS.esp
Race Scale Remover.esp
Fixes-1.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
bugi_quicksave.esp
Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp
JoyOfShips Merged.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
TextureMerge.esp
[Population]NPC Travelers Cats and Dogs RM.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Interactive Clutter - Legendary.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
3DNPC.esp
NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp
TKAA.esp
Falskaar TKAA Patch.esp
3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
Real Roads.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
High Level Enemies RM.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
[immersive]Armors Weapons Jewelry RM.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Omegared99-GalleryOfArmor.esp
Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp
Merged Eyes RM.esp
Merged Hair and Beards RM.esp
Merged Jewelry and Piercings RM.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
IHSS.esp
RideSharing.esp
Five O'Clock Shadow.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
JaxonzNameGen.esp
More Spells RM.esp
Perk Tree Overhaul RM.esp
Predator Vision.esp
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp
TradeBarter.esp
SpeedCasting.esp
LookCloser.esp
AnonymousPeople.esp
GPLockedGates.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Hypothermia.esp
RHSP_Widget.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
DA-Survival.esp
JZBai_Hidespots.esp
ArcheryMerge.esp
CombatMerge2.esp
Master of Disguise - Legendary.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 - High Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
InterfaceMerge.esp
SkyUI.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS.esp
AtlasMerge.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
Better Vampires.esp
BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
BVandRB_Formlist.esp
DarkManeuvers.esp
Real Feeding V3.esp
VL No AoE Drain.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
AnnaNPCs.esp
Inigo.esp
Geralt.esp
MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
Unique Shops and Stores.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
HammetDungeons.esp
AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
PCE - USLEEP Patch.esp
ServicesAssets.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
PWwaterfall.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
TrueStorms.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
TrueStorms-Minty-Supreme.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp
ELFX-LoS-Merge.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
SolitudeExterior.esp
WhiterunExterior.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

 

Just as disclaimer, my knowledge is good but limited so do further research, I could be wrong.

So my load order is based on this roughly: https://bethesda.net/community/topic/5795/how-to-load-order

 

 

  1. ) Patches and bug fixes
  2. ) Big mods and overhauls that affect the entire game
  3. ) Quest mods (big or small)
  4. ) Environments/weather Overhauls
  5. ) Large add-ons that add cities/towns/land masses
  6. ) Adds buildings to current cities/towns
  7. ) Plants and foliage mods for the entire game
  8. ) Gameplay changes/tweaks/add-ons such as combat/magic/perks/etc
  9. ) Changes/add-ons to NPCs
  10. ) Visual/textural/atmospheric changes
  11. ) Sound/audio/FX alterations
  12. ) Sorting, menu, and player & NPC inventory
  13. ) Cheat items
  14. ) Character model replacements
  15. ) Weapons/armor/clothing add-ons/additions
  16. ) Crafting related mods
  17. ) Misc. items, as well as small scale foliage
  18. ) Weapon/armor/clothing alterations
  19. ) Specific mods that need to be loaded at the bottom as directed by the mod author
  20. ) Mods that remove graphical effects, like disabling godrays, to improve performance - this goes last to ensure that all mod added effects get disabled too.

 

 

 

Interface and mods that need to be overwritten at the top with anything not following this in order of mod master priorities based on a lot of mods you can't see (like RLS and ELE and RSChildren being above my ETaC mod and PCE Mod). The current load order is maybe a 4th of my total mods. Honestly I could remove those mods and still run into this problem probably. My FPS isn't taking any hits at all and I'm pretty sure I missed a value somewhere (though I could be wrong) because with my specs I should be able to run 2000 mods on my skyrim tbh.

 

Also nice catch on the papyrus, I didn't see that XD: Checked and fixed!

 

No Bashed patch because it's an incomplete load order. If I bashed patched for every mod I added I'd be at this for a month.

 

I doubt this is skyrim.ini related because Skyrim's ini file is based off of the initial run I did for the game before modding. I haven't modified it since the beginning since everything is managed by MO. I posted it so people could see the specs I'm using or more specific code lines. Reseting it is a lazy solution so far as I realize and it probably won't work.

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I'm glad you, hopefully, figured it out.

 

Fair enough.

 

Thanks for the link, that'll prove useful to me :smile:

So you know, no memory related crashing since I updated, I have to much buffer space though so I have to adjust after further testing.

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