Mods causing game/PC freeze

[Tassadar2186]

Alright, I've had this problem for a while now with certain mods. The only problem is that I run a lot of mods together for a really varied experience, so isolating which mod is causing the problem is a pain. Main thing I want though, is to stop the mods from causing these problems in the first place. For instance, I had a really nice mod installed about a month ago that I really wanted to keep, but it kept freezing the game at the spot when the horse thief in the beginning of the game starts talking to you. I've also noticed that if I have more than one mod that changes or adds locations to the Skyrim world map, then that in and of itself causes my game to freeze. Here's some information about what I'm currently running as of this post, including what I still have but currently am not running.

 

Specs:

 

Win 7 x64 Ultimate on a 1TB WD Caviar black HDD

ASUS Rampage III Extreme

Intel Core i7-960

EVGA Geforce GTX 590 Classified

 

Nexus Mods I Use

 

 

Nexus Mod Manager

SKSE

A Quality World Map

Alternate Start - Live Another Life

ApachiSkyHair v1.1

Ask Follower Skills

Auto Magic Scaling v1.2

Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack

Better Females V3

Better Females Less Makeup V2

Better Followers

Better Followers - Armor Pack

Better Horses

Better Males

Better Werewolf

Binocular Vision For NPC's while sneaking

Birds and Flocks

Bromjunaar Extended

Calientes' Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-

Camping

Categorized Favorites Menu V0.1.13

Cloaks of Skyrim

ColloseusX's Toy Soldiers (I have yet to find the spells so I have no idea if this one is working)

Complete Crafting Overhaul

Conjuration Madness (None of my Perk Tree mods appear to be working for some reason)

Deadly Dragons

Deadly Spell Impacts

Dragon Bone Weapons v3.1.4

Dye-namic Smithing - Mage Edition

Enchanting Freedom

Enhanced Distant Terrain V1.3 HD

Enhanced Nigh Skyrim v04 Color Galaxy

Epic Endeavours v103

Expanded Color Selection - Eyes - FULL

Extended Slider Colors

Extra Effect Perk (My perk trees are still vanilla despite having these)

Faster Combat Magicka Regeneration - ALL

Faster Daggers V1.0.1

Fast Travel From Anywhere

Flash Step - Teleportation Jutsu - Instant Transmission

Flexible Perk Trees V101 (Dunno if this works. Haven't gotten far enough with all the freezing)

Follower Trap Safety V1.0.1 (They still set off traps. wtf)

Followers Can Relax

Followers Equip From Inventory ALWAYS

Fortify Speed Enchant - Boots of Nimblespeed - Main File

Frost Horse White Retexture

Get Drunk V103

Glowing Ore Veins

Halo Energy Sword - 1st Person Fix

High Quality Eyes v1.20

HiRes Legible Road Signs V3

Horses For Followers

House Decorations - Plants and Flowers

Improved NPC Clothing - HiRes V1.8.1

Increased Bounty Awards - Normal

Intro Music Replacement by Malukah

JaySuS Swords V13C

Killmove Plus V6

Lightweight Mod (Doesn't seem to work)

Lost Art of the Blacksmith

Lush Grass V1.4 Dense

Lush Trees V1.3

Magic Arrows V1.61

Magicka Sabers V0.3 (Not sure if this works or not. Haven't found them to craft them yet)

Magicka Sabers Extended V2.1

Masters of Death - Rise of the Brotherhood (I'll end up destroying them, but I still want that armor)

Midas Magic - Spells in Skyrim V008a

Millenia Weapons Retexture Project WRP

Minecraft Notched Pickaxe V03

More Craftables V2.3.2

More Dragon Loot

More Grass

More Rain V1.21

New Bard Songs

New House Decorations - Clutter

Psychoelf's No More Ability Perk Trees

No NPC Greetings - Reduced Distance

Phenderix Magic Evolved V20

Psijic Teleport Spells V4.1.1

Real Wildlife - Skyrim

Resiliant Dragons

Respectful Lydia

RTS for Skyrim

Same Walk And Run Speeds

Shadowmere Visual Effects - Hellspawn V1.2

Sheogorath Shout - Call of Madness

Skyrim -Community- Uncapper V1.5.10

Skyrim Leveled Items Can Level Up Unique Upgrade Balanced V1.6

Skyrim Mark and Recall Teleport Spell V1.2

Skyrim Sunglare V4.1 HD

Skyrim Unlimited Rings and Amulets V1.5

SkyUI

Small House Map Markers

Smithing Perks Overhaul

Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons Full V1.1

Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds Full V1.0.1

Spell Tome - Apocalypse V2

SRM Companion Cart V2.3

Static Mesh IMprovement Mod

Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers V1.3

TESV Acceleration Layer - TESVAL 03 (I can't help but wonder if this is helping or making things worse)

The Art of Magicka -CBBE-UNP-MALE-CBBE 3

The Paarthurnax Fix

Toggle Khajit Night Eye and Vampire Sight

Unlimited Book Shelves V1.5

Unread Books Glow

Val's Crafting Meltdown Alpha - Melting, Smelting, and Fletching Full English

Vibrant Auroras

Wars In Skyrim IV - Lore Friendly

WaterBreathing Breathless Emerge WEB V1.1

Weapon Variants Expansion V1.2

Weapons and Armor Fixes

Weapons of the Third Era V1.3

Winterlude's Arrowsmithing Mod

Winterlude's Arrow Smithing Mod Update 1

 

 

 

Nexus Mods I currently Have Turned Off

 

 

Black Tower and Black Sacrament Armor Pack V3.0

Dovahkiin Hideout V0.9.2

EDWS

Vigilant of Stendarr Quests V1.0

 

 

 

Steam Workshop Mods I Use

 

 

(So far haven't seen any evidence of these mods working anyways)

 

Stonger Alduin

Guardian Stone Overhaul

Megusta Moon

Realistic Skooma (Not Working)

Giant Dragons

Tougher and Smarter Dragons

Ring of Sputnik 1

Magical Dragon Bridge

Crimson Nirnroot Quest Markers

Souls to Skills

Exalted Magic - Indefinite Buffs

Leveling Merchant's Wallets

Leveling Perks (Original)

Smithing And Clothing Variety Mod

Death Cam Duration Options

Hunter's Discipline 100 percent

Wizards of Winterhold

Smithing Extended

Dragon Breath Shouts

Crafting+: Armor

Crafting+: Weapons

Tensa Zangetsu

Less Condescending Guards

Thu'um Infinium

Bigger Giants

Craftable Blades Armor

Ignite the World

Rabbit Rage (Pretty darn sure this isn't working or I would've been accosted by a psycho rabbit already)

Followers Don't Die!

Great Wyrms

Reduced Dual Casting Spell Costs

Enhanced Soundtrack Part 1 Explore

Enhanced Soundtrack Part 2 Everything Else

Child Adoption Service

More Dragons!

People of the Past

Forger

Detalied Mine Map Markers

Skyforge Map Marker

Moar Dragons!

Non-Honstile Friendly Fire

Enhanced High Level Gameplay

Racial Bonus in Description

Werewolves of Skyrim

Stronger Daedric Artifacts

Crafting Satchels

Fall of the Space Core Vol. 1

 

 

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

-EDIT-

 

Ok, I just turned every mod off, except for:

 

 

 

Nexus Mod Manager

SKSE

ApacheSkyHair

Better Females V3

Better Females Less Makeup V2

Better Males

Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-

Expanded Color Selection Eyes FULL

Extended Slider Colors

High Quality Eyes V1.20

RTS For Skyrim

SkyUI

 

 

 

I tried to turn off the Steam Workshop mods as well, but those aren't showing up anywhere for me to turn off. Despite doing this, it's still causing my PC to freeze, and I'm really tired of being forced to do a hard reset. I was REALLY hoping that it wasn't RTS For Skyrim, but it looks like it might be. I really wanted to keep that, but it looks like I'm going to have to turn it off and see if that fixes the issue.

 

-EDIT-

 

wtf? I just turned off RTS For Skyrim and it's still causing my PC to freeze? Looks like my next move is to turn off everything one at a time except for SKSE and SkyUI.

 

-EDIT-

 

Well, I've narrowed it down to Better Males and ApachiSkyHair or Expanded Color Selection - Eyes - Full. Or it might be all three. Suffice to say, I'm tired of having to get up to do hardresets, so I'm just going to leave all three off and turn all the rest back on.

 

On a sucky note, my character is now going to look ugly again... T__T

 

On a positive note, I can just put on the Black Sacrament Winter Armor so I don't have to see my character anymore!

 

On another positive note, it looks like I get to keep RTS For Skyrim afterall!

 

And on my last positive note, I figured out that the Steam Mods weren't showing up in the vanilla or Nexus Modlist, because they're listed in the Nexus Plugin list, so I can test those and get them working now! Though, I'll have to delete a few of them now since they're kinda redundant. I don't need More Dragons and Moar Dragons if I have Deadly Dragons.

 

-EDIT-

 

Brilliant! So I re add all my mods, and turn on all the steam mods. Now it's starting to crash the game at startup. So I used the plugin list on NMM to turn off all the files and test each one. Turns out the Dragonbone Weapon mod has a file that is supposed to enable it's use with Deadly Dragons Mod. Deleting that now has my game working again.

 

So I go ahead and add a few mods through steam for eye color and hair. If I can't have Better Males mod, then I should at least get something right? WRONG. Now the stupid game is freezing my PC again. I'm gonna remove those mods and see if just sticking with a vanilla character will fix the issue.

Edited March 30, 2012 by Tassadar2186

[Sibastion]

Alright, I've had this problem for a while now with certain mods. The only problem is that I run a lot of mods together for a really varied experience, so isolating which mod is causing the problem is a pain. Main thing I want though, is to stop the mods from causing these problems in the first place. For instance, I had a really nice mod installed about a month ago that I really wanted to keep, but it kept freezing the game at the spot when the horse thief in the beginning of the game starts talking to you. I've also noticed that if I have more than one mod that changes or adds locations to the Skyrim world map, then that in and of itself causes my game to freeze. Here's some information about what I'm currently running as of this post, including what I still have but currently am not running.

 

Specs:

 

Win 7 x64 Ultimate on a 1TB WD Caviar black HDD

ASUS Rampage III Extreme

Intel Core i7-960

EVGA Geforce GTX 590 Classified

 

Nexus Mods I Use

 

 

Nexus Mod Manager

SKSE

A Quality World Map

Alternate Start - Live Another Life

ApachiSkyHair v1.1

Ask Follower Skills

Auto Magic Scaling v1.2

Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack

Better Females V3

Better Females Less Makeup V2

Better Followers

Better Followers - Armor Pack

Better Horses

Better Males

Better Werewolf

Binocular Vision For NPC's while sneaking

Birds and Flocks

Bromjunaar Extended

Calientes' Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-

Camping

Categorized Favorites Menu V0.1.13

Cloaks of Skyrim

ColloseusX's Toy Soldiers (I have yet to find the spells so I have no idea if this one is working)

Complete Crafting Overhaul

Conjuration Madness (None of my Perk Tree mods appear to be working for some reason)

Deadly Dragons

Deadly Spell Impacts

Dragon Bone Weapons v3.1.4

Dye-namic Smithing - Mage Edition

Enchanting Freedom

Enhanced Distant Terrain V1.3 HD

Enhanced Nigh Skyrim v04 Color Galaxy

Epic Endeavours v103

Expanded Color Selection - Eyes - FULL

Extended Slider Colors

Extra Effect Perk (My perk trees are still vanilla despite having these)

Faster Combat Magicka Regeneration - ALL

Faster Daggers V1.0.1

Fast Travel From Anywhere

Flash Step - Teleportation Jutsu - Instant Transmission

Flexible Perk Trees V101 (Dunno if this works. Haven't gotten far enough with all the freezing)

Follower Trap Safety V1.0.1 (They still set off traps. wtf)

Followers Can Relax

Followers Equip From Inventory ALWAYS

Fortify Speed Enchant - Boots of Nimblespeed - Main File

Frost Horse White Retexture

Get Drunk V103

Glowing Ore Veins

Halo Energy Sword - 1st Person Fix

High Quality Eyes v1.20

HiRes Legible Road Signs V3

Horses For Followers

House Decorations - Plants and Flowers

Improved NPC Clothing - HiRes V1.8.1

Increased Bounty Awards - Normal

Intro Music Replacement by Malukah

JaySuS Swords V13C

Killmove Plus V6

Lightweight Mod (Doesn't seem to work)

Lost Art of the Blacksmith

Lush Grass V1.4 Dense

Lush Trees V1.3

Magic Arrows V1.61

Magicka Sabers V0.3 (Not sure if this works or not. Haven't found them to craft them yet)

Magicka Sabers Extended V2.1

Masters of Death - Rise of the Brotherhood (I'll end up destroying them, but I still want that armor)

Midas Magic - Spells in Skyrim V008a

Millenia Weapons Retexture Project WRP

Minecraft Notched Pickaxe V03

More Craftables V2.3.2

More Dragon Loot

More Grass

More Rain V1.21

New Bard Songs

New House Decorations - Clutter

Psychoelf's No More Ability Perk Trees

No NPC Greetings - Reduced Distance

Phenderix Magic Evolved V20

Psijic Teleport Spells V4.1.1

Real Wildlife - Skyrim

Resiliant Dragons

Respectful Lydia

RTS for Skyrim

Same Walk And Run Speeds

Shadowmere Visual Effects - Hellspawn V1.2

Sheogorath Shout - Call of Madness

Skyrim -Community- Uncapper V1.5.10

Skyrim Leveled Items Can Level Up Unique Upgrade Balanced V1.6

Skyrim Mark and Recall Teleport Spell V1.2

Skyrim Sunglare V4.1 HD

Skyrim Unlimited Rings and Amulets V1.5

SkyUI

Small House Map Markers

Smithing Perks Overhaul

Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons Full V1.1

Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds Full V1.0.1

Spell Tome - Apocalypse V2

SRM Companion Cart V2.3

Static Mesh IMprovement Mod

Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers V1.3

TESV Acceleration Layer - TESVAL 03 (I can't help but wonder if this is helping or making things worse)

The Art of Magicka -CBBE-UNP-MALE-CBBE 3

The Paarthurnax Fix

Toggle Khajit Night Eye and Vampire Sight

Unlimited Book Shelves V1.5

Unread Books Glow

Val's Crafting Meltdown Alpha - Melting, Smelting, and Fletching Full English

Vibrant Auroras

Wars In Skyrim IV - Lore Friendly

WaterBreathing Breathless Emerge WEB V1.1

Weapon Variants Expansion V1.2

Weapons and Armor Fixes

Weapons of the Third Era V1.3

Winterlude's Arrowsmithing Mod

Winterlude's Arrow Smithing Mod Update 1

 

 

 

Nexus Mods I currently Have Turned Off

 

 

Black Tower and Black Sacrament Armor Pack V3.0

Dovahkiin Hideout V0.9.2

EDWS

Vigilant of Stendarr Quests V1.0

 

 

 

Steam Workshop Mods I Use

 

 

(So far haven't seen any evidence of these mods working anyways)

 

Stonger Alduin

Guardian Stone Overhaul

Megusta Moon

Realistic Skooma (Not Working)

Giant Dragons

Tougher and Smarter Dragons

Ring of Sputnik 1

Magical Dragon Bridge

Crimson Nirnroot Quest Markers

Souls to Skills

Exalted Magic - Indefinite Buffs

Leveling Merchant's Wallets

Leveling Perks (Original)

Smithing And Clothing Variety Mod

Death Cam Duration Options

Hunter's Discipline 100 percent

Wizards of Winterhold

Smithing Extended

Dragon Breath Shouts

Crafting+: Armor

Crafting+: Weapons

Tensa Zangetsu

Less Condescending Guards

Thu'um Infinium

Bigger Giants

Craftable Blades Armor

Ignite the World

Rabbit Rage (Pretty darn sure this isn't working or I would've been accosted by a psycho rabbit already)

Followers Don't Die!

Great Wyrms

Reduced Dual Casting Spell Costs

Enhanced Soundtrack Part 1 Explore

Enhanced Soundtrack Part 2 Everything Else

Child Adoption Service

More Dragons!

People of the Past

Forger

Detalied Mine Map Markers

Skyforge Map Marker

Moar Dragons!

Non-Honstile Friendly Fire

Enhanced High Level Gameplay

Racial Bonus in Description

Werewolves of Skyrim

Stronger Daedric Artifacts

Crafting Satchels

Fall of the Space Core Vol. 1

 

 

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

-EDIT-

 

Ok, I just turned every mod off, except for:

 

 

 

Nexus Mod Manager

SKSE

ApacheSkyHair

Better Females V3

Better Females Less Makeup V2

Better Males

Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-

Expanded Color Selection Eyes FULL

Extended Slider Colors

High Quality Eyes V1.20

RTS For Skyrim

SkyUI

 

 

 

I tried to turn off the Steam Workshop mods as well, but those aren't showing up anywhere for me to turn off. Despite doing this, it's still causing my PC to freeze, and I'm really tired of being forced to do a hard reset. I was REALLY hoping that it wasn't RTS For Skyrim, but it looks like it might be. I really wanted to keep that, but it looks like I'm going to have to turn it off and see if that fixes the issue.

 

-EDIT-

 

wtf? I just turned off RTS For Skyrim and it's still causing my PC to freeze? Looks like my next move is to turn off everything one at a time except for SKSE and SkyUI.

 

-EDIT-

 

Well, I've narrowed it down to Better Males and ApachiSkyHair or Expanded Color Selection - Eyes - Full. Or it might be all three. Suffice to say, I'm tired of having to get up to do hardresets, so I'm just going to leave all three off and turn all the rest back on.

 

On a sucky note, my character is now going to look ugly again... T__T

 

On a positive note, I can just put on the Black Sacrament Winter Armor so I don't have to see my character anymore!

 

On another positive note, it looks like I get to keep RTS For Skyrim afterall!

 

And on my last positive note, I figured out that the Steam Mods weren't showing up in the vanilla or Nexus Modlist, because they're listed in the Nexus Plugin list, so I can test those and get them working now! Though, I'll have to delete a few of them now since they're kinda redundant. I don't need More Dragons and Moar Dragons if I have Deadly Dragons.

 

-EDIT-

 

Brilliant! So I re add all my mods, and turn on all the steam mods. Now it's starting to crash the game at startup. So I used the plugin list on NMM to turn off all the files and test each one. Turns out the Dragonbone Weapon mod has a file that is supposed to enable it's use with Deadly Dragons Mod. Deleting that now has my game working again.

 

So I go ahead and add a few mods through steam for eye color and hair. If I can't have Better Males mod, then I should at least get something right? WRONG. Now the stupid game is freezing my PC again. I'm gonna remove those mods and see if just sticking with a vanilla character will fix the issue.

Delete the mods you know don't work then delete the ones you don't need or can do without, and you have to many follower mods, when you have to many mods effecting the same thing than it will mess up if you want to change your followers to don't die than use the Construction Kit to mark them essential

[millyrainbow]

extended color slider has fits with apachiskyhair. Though ive seen some people using them together. I think theres just to much workload on the system for it to keep up, Aka, a pc issue >~<

[gentester]

I'd say it was a script conflict issue that caused the problem in the first place. Had something similar myself a while back and figured out that a couple of mods that I believed were uninstalled had left stray .pex files that conflicted with my new stuff.

[Tassadar2186]

I'd say it was a script conflict issue that caused the problem in the first place. Had something similar myself a while back and figured out that a couple of mods that I believed were uninstalled had left stray .pex files that conflicted with my new stuff.

 

If that's the case, where were these .pex files and how did you fix the problem? Did you just delete them?

[Zonzai]

Every mod that you have installed and everything in the data folder will put additional stress on the Skyrim engine and has the potential to cause CTDs. It doesn't seem to be as hearty as Oblivion or even Fallout. Due to Skyrim's popularity, I think that with additional patches Bethesda will iron out the kinks but right now it is prone to crashing. Most conflicts will not cause your game to crash, but if you get too many minor conflicts and/or too many mods all being used at once, eventually your game will start crashing.

 

For most people this isn't going to be the case and it will just be some kind of conflict. But you have a lot of mods installed and I would be willing to bet that your game is getting to be rather unstable. Even if you are able to resolve the current conflict you could be in for more problems in the future and could even end up corrupting your save games. To prevent future problems I suggest manually uninstalling the mods that you don't use and using Skyrim Savegame De-bloatifier and/or skyrim savegame scanner to keep your saves safe.

 

P.S. If you have any scripts installed they can be found in skyrim/data/scripts.