llorangesll Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) Edited March 23, 2013 by llorangesll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werne Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) First of all, those problems you described (Ralof/Hadvar not following through Helgen, no Imperials/Stormcloaks appearing) is not a problem with mod authors or mods, it's a problem with you and your game. If you, for example, install a mod on an obsolete version of Skyrim (like 1.0) you'll get problems you described. I had the same problem with mods created with CK and 1.3 patch, I was unable to update my game due to SkyBoost and SkyUI not being compatible with the new patch and all new mods I tried to install were giving me the exact same problem. There can also be mod conflicts, I suggest using Wrye Bash instead of NMM and installing your mods manually. Also, creating a bashed patch is a good idea to avoid any mod conflicts and problems. The same problem will also occur if you don't have Update.esm in your Data folder or if your game is the latest version and you install pre-CK mods made with TESSnip (Wrye Bash says they are badly formatted). Update your game to the latest patch if it's not updated already (only if you are not depending on SkyBoost, it's not updated yet) then try activating those mods and starting a new game, you can't fix the damage done to the one you already started. EDIT: I forgot to ask, do you run any other mods beside those two? If you do, could you post your load order? Edited March 30, 2012 by Werne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngeGardien Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) First of all, those problems you described (Ralof/Hadvar not following through Helgen, no Imperials/Stormcloaks appearing) is not a problem with mod authors or mods, it's a problem with you and your game. If you, for example, install a mod on an obsolete version of Skyrim (like 1.0) you'll get problems you described. I had the same problem with mods created with CK and 1.3 patch, I was unable to update my game due to SkyBoost and SkyUI not being compatible with the new patch and all new mods I tried to install were giving me the exact same problem. There can also be mod conflicts, I suggest using Wrye Bash instead of NMM and installing your mods manually. Also, creating a bashed patch is a good idea to avoid any mod conflicts and problems. The same problem will also occur if you don't have Update.esm in your Data folder or if your game is the latest version and you install pre-CK mods made with TESSnip (Wrye Bash says they are badly formatted). Update your game to the latest patch if it's not updated already (only if you are not depending on SkyBoost, it's not updated yet) then try activating those mods and starting a new game, you can't fix the damage done to the one you already started. EDIT: I forgot to ask, do you run any other mods beside those two? If you do, could you post your load order? a question..., you say Skyui make problem in skyrim?, i have it but not installed, but i have wanted to install it, but after reading this, i am not sure Ha Ha Ha, if a mod make crashing pc each time they have update, i love better to not install it, i have thinking they modify only the graphical way you look your thing??? Edited March 31, 2012 by AngeGardien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llorangesll Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) @Werne Alrighty, well - your saying that if I update my skyrim/ uninstall the mods, then reinstall the mods with the new skyrim update, that should fix my game? 1 question...where do I update the game? :P (Starting a new game as well I mean) Update.esm is in the data folder. I will have to upload a pic of my load order from NMM. Also Werne - I appreciate you taking the time to really explain it for me. As this has been frustrating as you could imagine!! :P Edited March 31, 2012 by llorangesll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngeGardien Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 i think i have view similar thing, but i don't remember where, people not able to make any quest, if i remember well, you can try something, but begin by making a valydation of your local cache file by scream, and try if they find something, if not an another solution it's to rename your skyrim folder, move it in other directory, even the my docs/skyrim/... go to steam and make a validation of you local game cache, they will detect you have big probleme because they don't find file and they arange the situation in giving you all new files, i think all will be ok after... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llorangesll Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thanks AngeGardien - I shall give that a try whilst I wait for a reply from werne :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werne Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 a question..., you say Skyui make problem in skyrim?, i have it but not installed, but i have wanted to install it, but after reading this, i am not sure Ha Ha Ha, if a mod make crashing pc each time they have update, i love better to not install it, i have thinking they modify only the graphical way you look your thing??? No, I said I couldn't upload my game due to SkyUI not being compatible with the new SKSE version. It would still work but there would be a big "This version isn't compatible with blah, blah, blah" message. And SkyBoost wouldn't work making my game run at 20 fps which is barely playable. And the game doesn't crash each time there's an update, I said those ancient mods made with TESSnip can make problem. @Werne Alrighty, well - your saying that if I update my skyrim/ uninstall the mods, then reinstall the mods with the new skyrim update, that should fix my game? 1 question...where do I update the game? :P (Starting a new game as well I mean) Update.esm is in the data folder. I will have to upload a pic of my load order from NMM. Updating your game is one of the possible solutions but will it fix your game, I don't know. The game updates automatically through Steam if you allowed it, I don't know can you start the update manually, never tried. And by the way using NMM is not the "smartest" way to sort your mods. I mean yeah, it makes downloading and installing mods a whole lot easier but it just dumbs down the process and people know less and less about modding and then they blame the mod authors for problems. Also, you really should make a bashed patch, it's one of the things I consider required, not optional like most people. i think i have view similar thing, but i don't remember where, people not able to make any quest, if i remember well, you can try something, but begin by making a valydation of your local cache file by scream, and try if they find something, if not an another solution it's to rename your skyrim folder, move it in other directory, even the my docs/skyrim/... go to steam and make a validation of you local game cache, they will detect you have big probleme because they don't find file and they arange the situation in giving you all new files, i think all will be ok after... That doesn't help, since the problem is with an incompatibility between different mods (mod conflict), maybe a problem between certain mods and Update.esm (ex. Update.esm gets updated but the mod doesn't creating a problem, especially if another mod changes the same variable) and there you go, complete chaos. I for one had a problem with Realistic Lighting and 1.3, it corrupted my main quest and radiant quests, the only way to solve this was to remove the mod and start a new game. I honestly don't know why, but Skyrim is the most fragile game I modded, and I modded a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llorangesll Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 Alrighty well - I had to haul some arse and just do it so I did - Un-installed skyrim (sigh) lol. Re-installed Skyrim - latest patch 1.5. I have installed all the mods except for Darwins Nightmare and frostfall. Also With NMM - Yes I use it, but I also check and re-check that the files have gone the where they should be, mods like darwins nightmare etc I always install manually (as NMM is not all THAT reliable) The conflict lied in Darwins nightmare and frostfall as I can only guess the conflict came from having both installed. If I consider them in future it will be when they have sorted out the bugs. But it doesn't matter regardless - I thank you for all your help everyone. My game is back in sync - took me a good day and a half lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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