theDOMolisher537 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I started up my FNV for the first time in a couple months and it froze on the starting intro and it wouldnt show the start menu. I do have mods downloaded and NVSE as well but im a bit of a noob so i could be getting something wrong. I looked through the forums for solutions but they didnt help. If I could get any assistancce it would be quite apriciated. This is my load order:FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmTribalPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmClassicPack.esmCaravanPack.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmSomeguySeries.esmMomod.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmMoonQuest.esmMore Traits.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Equipment.esmProject Nevada - Rebalance.espwsex.esmUWHNV-Core.esmPlaythings.esmCompanion Core.esmRobCo Certified.esmNVWillow.espProject Nevada - Extra Options.esmSortomatic.esmAfterschool Special.esmCoitoErgoSum.esmWeapon Mod Expansion.esmWME - GRA.esmWME - DLCs.esmSkeletonsFNV.esmNevadaSkies.esmWARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esmShogo_Heavy_Industries.esmTheLozza's_Gasmasks_V2.espNCR Rearmament v1.5.espMission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.espPerkEveryLevel.espRWD-NV v1.4 [standard Version].espAWOPMonsterPatch.espMAC.espTheInheritance.espThe New Bison Steve Hotel.espMore Traits Update.espmac10.espASVAL.espGyrojet.espCAWS.espDEagle.espUzi.espM14.espMateba.espPancorJH.espAUGA1.espM60_grunt.espM60.espVSS_Vintorez.espWME - GRA - Arenovalis.espWME - GRA - Complete.espWME - GRA - Just Guns.espWME - GRA - Unique Integration.espWME - GRA - Vendor Reform.espWME - GRA - Weapon Integration.espWME - GRA - All Weapons.espBuildableBotsNV.espdelilah.espUnlimitedCompanions.espCASM with MCM.espwsexInnuendoAnims.espNAPA-NV 0.1.espDonta1979 MK117 Prototype Armor.espStormtroopers Early Release - Armors.espCasinoHeists.espUWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.espUWHNV-Addon-GRA.espUWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.espUWHNV-Addon-DLC.espNVBabyDeathclawCommander.espRobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.espProject Nevada - Cyberware Additions.espProject Nevada - Rebalance Complete.espProject Nevada - All DLC.espRoberts_NewVegas.espBadmothaf*#@a.espARESproject.espCheckpointGary.espwsexInnuendoNPCs.espBT87.espCouriers Blunder + Rifle.espRemington870SO.espRHINO-M1.espStenMkII.espchristinecos.espWeapon Mod Expansion.espWME - DLCs Arenovalis.espWME - DLCs.espAmmoCraftingV1.espCazaclaw Resource.espDumpling Radscorpions.espEnclave Mutant in New Vegas.espmore advanced ammo.espRavenXP.espRealisticAmmo.espJokerineHalloweenHunt.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espFarquharHill.espProve Your Worth.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espEVE FNV - ALL DLC.espNevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.espNevadaSkies - Basic Edition.espAirForceArmorT57C.esprealistic headshots.esp12gaugeHEshells.espTec9.espMojave Arsenal.espGravityGun.espMilitary Tomahawk.espWeightlessJunk.espLegionPowerArmor.espLegionPowerArmor (Project Nevada Plugin).espYou See Ed.espProtonAxesWithEffects.espBoomers - T-57c PA.esp Total active plugins: 126Total plugins: 126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok101 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 In order: If you have Project Nevada you don't need the T-57C mods.Make sure you have the proper Nevada Skies ESP, I think you're only supposed to have one. Double-check all mods that add more than one plugin on install to make sure you have the proper one. Delete any extraneous ones.Make sure you have any available compatibility patches, some of these mods probably conflict.Get LOOT (Load Order Optimization Tool). Configure it for FNV. Run it and apply what it says.If you don't have FNVEdit, get it, make a merged patch. Make sure it's turned on. These should fix your problem. Later, look into reducing your plugin count. I recommend Mator's Merge Plugins. It's great for putting all your weapons and armor mods into a single plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDOMolisher537 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 In order: If you have Project Nevada you don't need the T-57C mods.Make sure you have the proper Nevada Skies ESP, I think you're only supposed to have one. Double-check all mods that add more than one plugin on install to make sure you have the proper one. Delete any extraneous ones.Make sure you have any available compatibility patches, some of these mods probably conflict.Get LOOT (Load Order Optimization Tool). Configure it for FNV. Run it and apply what it says.If you don't have FNVEdit, get it, make a merged patch. Make sure it's turned on. These should fix your problem. Later, look into reducing your plugin count. I recommend Mator's Merge Plugins. It's great for putting all your weapons and armor mods into a single plugin.I have just finished doing these fixes but im still having the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksonelhage Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 It is most likely a mod problem, I had frequent crashes in my game, every 2 minutes because of the mods I had been using. Unfortunately, there's not really an easy way to fix mod clashes or find out what's clashing, or at least I don't know of any ways. Try uninstalling all your mods and trying to run the game, then gradually reinstall them 1 or 2 at a time to find the problem. It's a long process, but it worked for me, it could probably work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Please see the 'Solutions to Starting the game problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide. All of the following may not apply to your specific situation, but are worth repeating anyway.* Did you install Steam to it's default location? If so, please see the wiki "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article for why the original default Steam behavior of installing games to the "C:\Program Files" folder tree was bad (they learned better, and don't do that any more); and why "disabling UAC and running as Administrator" is NOT sufficient, with instructions how to move it. This is the single most important thing you can do to fix and protect yourself against problems in the future. As much of a PITA as that is, it's never going to be any easier than now. Please see the 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article as well. * Are you running Win10? Did you get the "Fall Creator's Update" (FCU aka "RedStone 3")? Do you have "New Vegas Stutter Remover" (NVSR) installed? If all three are "true", then please see the 'Issue: Recent (post-Win10 FCU) CTDs after 10-20 minutes of play' (and other "heap size") entries in the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.The FCU update was released in mid-November 2017, so a "brand new" system probably did not come with it installed. However, the default configuration is usually to have OS updates automatically installed. (Those usually start being distributed on the second Tuesday of each month, but may take a week or more to get to everyone.) See the MS "Get the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update" article for how to check your version release and manually pull down the update if necessary. It is important to keep your OS always "up to date" to prevent malware infections.Please see the 'Issue: NVSE - fails to load after update KB4058043 to Win10 FCU (v1709)' entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide, where it talks about configuring for an application in the "Windows Defender Exploit Guard (WDEG)".* Are you using the 4GB Patcher? If not, please see the 'Maximizing use of memory' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.* If you are using the full 4GB of memory, most likely your CTD problem (now or in the future) is the default "heap size" is too small. Please see the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.* Move any "inactive" plugins out of the game "Data" folder. They count against the "plugin cap" because they get loaded by the game engine if found, and can cause "Missing Master" problems. Please see the wiki "Missing Masters" article if you get that error message.* "Compatibility patches" to make one mod work with another need to be placed after (as in "physically lower, higher numbered") in the "load order" than both of the plugins they are designed to make compatible. ESMs should always be placed at the top (lowest numbered) positions in the "load order", followed by the related ESPs though they can be separated from their ESMs by other plugins. "LOOT" does a good job of determining those basic orders. Getting the "load order" incorrect will cause "Missing Master" errors as well.* Don't install compatibility patches for mods you do not have installed/active (e.g. get rid of any "TTW" patches if you aren't running TTW).* Don't install every optional file for a mod. Read the install instructions carefully. Optional files need to be selected on a "case by case" basis. For example: with any mod you usually only need one ESP (and possibly one ESM) "base" file depending upon whether you have all the DLCs active or not. Only if you don't have them all active do you need to install any specific DLC versions if there is an "Ultimate Edition/All/Merged DLC" version.-Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDOMolisher537 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 It is most likely a mod problem, I had frequent crashes in my game, every 2 minutes because of the mods I had been using. Unfortunately, there's not really an easy way to fix mod clashes or find out what's clashing, or at least I don't know of any ways. Try uninstalling all your mods and trying to run the game, then gradually reinstall them 1 or 2 at a time to find the problem. It's a long process, but it worked for me, it could probably work for you.Thank you, this worked but now it has gone back to the original problem.Revised load order: FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmTribalPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmClassicPack.esmCaravanPack.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmSomeguySeries.esmMoonQuest.esmMore Traits.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Equipment.esmProject Nevada - Rebalance.espwsex.esmPlaythings.esmCompanion Core.esmRobCo Certified.esmNVWillow.espProject Nevada - Extra Options.esmSortomatic.esmCoitoErgoSum.esmWeapon Mod Expansion.esmWME - GRA.esmWME - DLCs.esmSkeletonsFNV.esmShogo_Heavy_Industries.esmTheLozza's_Gasmasks_V2.espNCR Rearmament v1.5.espPerkEveryLevel.espRWD-NV v1.4 [standard Version].espTheInheritance.espThe New Bison Steve Hotel.espMore Traits Update.espmac10.espASVAL.espGyrojet.espCAWS.espDEagle.espUzi.espM14.espMateba.espPancorJH.espAUGA1.espM60_grunt.espM60.espVSS_Vintorez.espWME - DLCs.espWME - GRA - Vendor Reform.espWME - GRA - All Weapons.espWME - GRA - Just Guns.espWME - GRA - Complete.espWME - GRA - Weapon Integration.espWME - GRA - Unique Integration.espBuildableBotsNV.espdelilah.espUnlimitedCompanions.espCASM with MCM.espwsexInnuendoAnims.espNAPA-NV 0.1.espDonta1979 MK117 Prototype Armor.espStormtroopers Early Release - Armors.espCasinoHeists.espNVBabyDeathclawCommander.espRobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.espProject Nevada - Cyberware Additions.espProject Nevada - Rebalance Complete.espProject Nevada - All DLC.espRoberts_NewVegas.espBadmothaf*#@a.espARESproject.espCheckpointGary.espwsexInnuendoNPCs.espBT87.espCouriers Blunder + Rifle.espRemington870SO.espRHINO-M1.espStenMkII.espchristinecos.espAmmoCraftingV1.espCazaclaw Resource.espDumpling Radscorpions.espEnclave Mutant in New Vegas.espmore advanced ammo.espRavenXP.espRealisticAmmo.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espFarquharHill.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espEVE FNV - ALL DLC.esprealistic headshots.esp12gaugeHEshells.espTec9.espMojave Arsenal.espMilitary Tomahawk.espWeightlessJunk.espLegionPowerArmor.espLegionPowerArmor (Project Nevada Plugin).espYou See Ed.espProtonAxesWithEffects.espWeapon Mod Expansion.esp Total active plugins: 104Total plugins: 104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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