Load Order Problems. Crashes. ETC.

[CoopCoupe]

I'm a bit at wit's end here. I've gone all over the place and tried a variety of things, but I can't seem to keep my game stable enough to make it playable.

Recently deleted a few visual mods I thought were causing the problem, but I'm still getting consistent CTDs after 15 minutes or so of play and wandering, so those are ruled out.

My current load order is:

 

FalloutNV.esm=1

DeadMoney.esm=1

HonestHearts.esm=1

OldWorldBlues.esm=1

LonesomeRoad.esm=1

GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1

ClassicPack.esm=1

MercenaryPack.esm=1

TribalPack.esm=1

CaravanPack.esm=1

SomeguySeries.esm=1

Advanced Recon Tech.esm=1

FCOMaster.esm=1

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm=1

UWHNV-Core.esm=1

Project Nevada - Core.esm=1

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm=1

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp=1

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp=1

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm=1

Military NV Backpacks.esm=1

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm=1

DragsVGUArmorBase.esm=1

More Perks.esm=1

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp=1

CASM with MCM.esp=1

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp=1

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp=1

Advanced Recon Tech.esp=1

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp=1

Advanced Recon Gear.esp=1

Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp=1

FCO - NPC Changes.esp=1

More Perks Update.esp=1

WeaponModsExpanded.esp=1

CNR_Beta.esp=1

NCR Red Death Armor PN Compatible.esp=1

UpgradesFromTheCommonwealth.esp=1

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp=1

WMX-DLCMerged.esp=1

NewVegasBounties.esp=1

NewVegasBountiesII.esp=1

Russell.esp=1

NewVegasBountiesIII.esp=1

AWOP-WMX.esp=1

AWOP - Russell.esp=1

AWOP-FCO3.esp=1

Project Nevada - WMX.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp=1

PaintYourWeapon.esp=1

TheBetterAngels.esp=1

AWOP Interim Fixes.esp=1

Drags20ArmorPack.esp=1

Ranger Merc Helms - Helmet Hunt.esp=1

ADAM Complete.esp=1

ADAM - MAIN.esp=1

Military NV Backpacks - BumBagUseSlot1.esp=0

ADAM - Rangers on Patrol.esp=1

BlueLaserRifle.esp=1

Ww2K98.esp=1

MosinNagant.esp=1

M40a5.esp=1

WMX-POPMerged.esp=1

Military NV Backpacks - Vendor Script Replenish.esp=0

NukaCola-Ojo.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-Time for Bed NV.esp=0

ADAM - Outcast Ranger Armor.esp=1

Drags20ArmorPackNoInteriors.esp=1

SplashDamageArmorPack.esp=1

Diagonal movement.esp=1

pipboy2500_edisleado.esp=1

ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp=1

Military NV Backpacks - No Straps.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp=1

UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp=0

UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp=1

Paint Your Weapon - Honest Hearts Edition.esp=1

christinecos.esp=1

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp=1

357retex.esp=1

Ranger Merc Helms - Duffle Bag.esp=1

RoadFighterArmorEN.esp=1

FNV-PC idles.esp=1

FCO - GlowingOne.esp=1

FCO - Russell.esp=1

FCO - Race Addon.esp=1

FCO + CNR.esp=1

NCR Red Death Armor.esp=1

FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp=1

GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp=1

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp=1

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp=1

PowderIsTheNewBlack.esp=1

BoomersGoBoom.esp=1

BrotherhoodReforged.esp=1

NCROverhaul.esp=1

Merged Patch 1.esp=1

Any insight would be extremely helpful.

I also have Ojo Bueno and NMC's texture pack merged.

[WastelandAssassin]

do you have the 4GB patch?

tools like NVCR and other crash prevention \ memory optimization tools for the game?

does the game crash in interiors or only in exteriors? for example , if you start a new game inside Doc's house , does it crash there?

because this could be a memory issue , which is far more serious in exteriors , due to far larger cells with plenty to load......

[CoopCoupe]

do you have the 4GB patch?

tools like NVCR and other crash prevention \ memory optimization tools for the game?

does the game crash in interiors or only in exteriors? for example , if you start a new game inside Doc's house , does it crash there?

because this could be a memory issue , which is far more serious in exteriors , due to far larger cells with plenty to load......

 

I actually do-the most recent version, as well. If there are any others you could suggest, that'd help.

[WastelandAssassin]

I don't really remember all there is to know about the game

but a quick search brought me to this guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1216150447

maybe you should check out the 2nd and 3rd parts of the guide , see about the suggested tools and ini edits

I can't guarantee anything on that guide , but it's really new and seems to be up to date and properly made

[dubiousintent]

All of the following may not apply to your specific situation, but are worth repeating anyway.

* Did you install Steam to it's default location? If so, please see the wiki "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article for why the original default Steam behavior of installing games to the "C:\Program Files" folder tree was bad (they learned better, and don't do that any more); and why "disabling UAC and running as Administrator" is NOT sufficient, with instructions how to move it. This is the single most important thing you can do to fix and protect yourself against problems in the future. As much of a PITA as that is, it's never going to be any easier than now. Please see the 'Restoring to "Vanilla"' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article as well.

* Be aware that one error may mask a number of other errors, which will not appear until those masking them have been resolved. Building a stable game consists of resolving each problem individually until none remain, and then realizing that every change you make thereafter (including updates to mods already installed) run the risk of introducing new problems. Be prepared to revert to a previous save if you do so.

* Are you running Win10? Did you get the "Fall Creator's Update" (FCU aka "RedStone 3")? Do you have "New Vegas Stutter Remover" (NVSR) installed? If all three are "true", then please see the 'Issue: Recent (post-Win10 FCU) CTDs after 10-20 minutes of play' (and other "heap size") entries in the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

The FCU update was released in mid-November 2017, so a "brand new" system probably did not come with it installed. However, the default configuration is usually to have OS updates automatically installed. (Those usually start being distributed on the second Tuesday of each month, but may take a week or more to get to everyone.) See the MS "Get the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update" article for how to check your version release and manually pull down the update if necessary. It is important to keep your OS always "up to date" to prevent malware infections.

Please see the 'Issue: NVSE - fails to load after update KB4058043 to Win10 FCU (v1709)' entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide, where it talks about configuring for an application in the "Windows Defender Exploit Guard (WDEG)".

* Are you using the 4GB Patcher? If not, please see the 'Maximizing use of memory' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

* If you are using the full 4GB of memory, most likely your CTD problem (now or in the future) is the default "heap size" is too small. Please see the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

* Move any "inactive" plugins out of the game "Data" folder. They count against the "plugin cap" because they get loaded by the game engine if found, and can cause "Missing Master" problems. Please see the wiki "Missing Masters" article if you get that error message.

* "Compatibility patches" to make one mod work with another need to be placed after (as in "physically lower, higher numbered") in the "load order" than both of the plugins they are designed to make compatible. ESMs should always be placed at the top (lowest numbered) positions in the "load order", followed by the related ESPs though they can be separated from their ESMs by other plugins. "LOOT" does a good job of determining those basic orders. Getting the "load order" incorrect will cause "Missing Master" errors as well.

* Don't install compatibility patches for mods you do not have installed/active (e.g. get rid of any "TTW" patches if you aren't running TTW).

* Don't install every optional file for a mod. Read the install instructions carefully. Optional files need to be selected on a "case by case" basis. For example: with any mod you usually only need one ESP (and possibly one ESM) "base" file depending upon whether you have all the DLCs active or not. Only if you don't have them all active do you need to install any specific DLC versions if there is an "Ultimate Edition/All/Merged DLC" version.

* Do not use an "Auto-purge" mod for game play. (That was old advice from before we knew better.) They are designed for debugging by mod creator's only, according to the author of the JIP extensions to NVSE. See the 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu', "Cause-2", "Solution-3" entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide for the game settings that do the same job.

* Please see the paragraph about "auto-saves" under the 'Essentials for Getting Started' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

-Dubious-

[CoopCoupe]

I don't really remember all there is to know about the game

but a quick search brought me to this guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1216150447

maybe you should check out the 2nd and 3rd parts of the guide , see about the suggested tools and ini edits

I can't guarantee anything on that guide , but it's really new and seems to be up to date and properly made

Went through the guide, and I've done pretty much all of that already.

Can't figure out the problem so I think I might just do a clean uninstall and start from scratch again.

[CoopCoupe]

All of the following may not apply to your specific situation, but are worth repeating anyway.

 

-Dubious-

 

This information will be helpful. Most of it are steps I've already been aware of, but there are a few things I did learn that I'll follow up with in my next install. Thank you.