Looking for feedback for Load Order

[Essoncletus]

Hey, just thought I would double check with some folks and see what feedback I get.
I followed Nordics new guide on skyrim SE mods and have been following DWM and GP on Youtube through their various tutorials. Game seems to be stable but recently i decided to add quite a few extras to my list. I don't plan to add anything more to this other than to convert Be with Healer and Smart Cast from Oldrim.

Just figured since I'm hitting around 165 in my LO, I might as well double check with maybe some advice on where toplace some things. Scarcity and Live Another Life will be put to the end of my list. Also, in previous test plays with mods before getting tothis number Skyrim is Windy hasn't been working since i added COT, should I move it to the bottom of my order? Thanks in advance!

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Campfire.esm

7 7 Sneak Tools.esp

8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

9 9 Cutting Room Floor.esp

10 a SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp

11 b SkyUI_SE.esp

12 c beltfastenedquivers.esp

13 d LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp

14 e timescale10.esp

15 f Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

16 10 DeadlyCombat.esp

17 11 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

18 12 Footprints.esp

19 13 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

20 14 SimplyKnock.esp

21 15 CraftingNeedsTools.esp

22 16 PeopleAreStrangers.esp

23 17 Simple Killable Children.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

24 18 Character Creation Overhaul.esp

25 19 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp

26 1a CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp

27 1b Realistic-Voice.esp

28 1c AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

29 1d FollowerWander2.esp

30 1e SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp

31 1f Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

32 20 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

33 21 reflection-levelupmessages.esp

YOT - Reflection - Level Up Messages.esp

34 22 StavesAtback.esp

35 23 FNIS.esp

36 24 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Darker.esp

37 25 MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp

38 26 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

39 27 Immersive Jewelry.esp

40 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

41 29 SkyrimIsWindy.esp

42 2a HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp

43 2b DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

44 2c skyforgedWeapons.esp

45 2d tcbm.esp

46 2e EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp

EconomyOverhaulGeneralMerchantsBuyEverything.esp

47 2f EnchantingAdjustments.esp

48 30 AlchemyPotionsIngredientsAdjustments.esp

49 31 Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp

50 32 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

51 33 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp

52 34 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

53 35 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp

54 36 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

55 37 OwnCivilWar.esp

56 38 Holidays.esp

57 39 Point The Way.esp

58 3a Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

59 3b dovahkiinrelax.esp

Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp

60 3c TrueStormsSE.esp

TSCoT.esp

61 3d AngasMillReborn.esp

62 3e TheChoiceIsYours.esp

63 3f Laundry.esp

64 40 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp

65 41 SkyrimSewers.esp

66 42 BecomeABard.esp

67 43 imp_helm_legend.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp

68 44 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

69 45 JKs Whiterun.esp

70 46 Whitewatch Tower.esp

71 47 Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp

72 48 JK's Riverwood.esp

73 49 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

74 4a Cloaks.esp

75 4b Tel Mithryn.esp

76 4c Inigo.esp

77 4d Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp

78 4e Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

79 4f Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

80 50 Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

81 51 fallentreebridgesSSE.esp

82 52 The Elder Scrolls Tomes - Skyrim Magic Addon.esp

83 53 OutlawsRefuges.esp

84 54 Immersive Patrols II.esp

85 55 UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

86 56 SPERG-SSE.esp

87 57 Mixwater Mill Reborn.esp

88 58 Hunterborn.esp

89 59 Shor's Stone.esp

90 5a Skyshards.esp

91 5b Frostfall.esp

92 5c Ivarstead.esp

93 5d FarmhouseChimneys.esp

94 5e Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

95 5f Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

96 60 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp

YOT - Campfire.esp

YOT - Wearable Lanterns.esp

97 61 ScrimshawExpanded.esp

YOT - Hunterborn.esp

98 62 Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp

99 63 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp

100 64 Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp

101 65 1nivWICCloaks.esp

102 66 WetandCold.esp

103 67 TailArmors.esp

104 68 Ars Metallica.esp

105 69 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

106 6a Dr_Bandolier.esp

Ars Metallica - LSC Patch.esp

107 6b DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

108 6c KS Dragon Overhaul.esp

109 6d Mortal Enemies.esp

110 6e Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp

111 6f KS Dragon Overhaul - Mortal Enemies Patch.esp

112 70 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp

XPMSSE.esp

113 71 IHSS.esp

114 72 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp

115 73 MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp

116 74 WondersofWeather.esp

MCoW_AnimatedClutter.esp

Fixed body collision.esp

117 75 UsefulDogs.esp

118 76 AskTheWay.esp

119 77 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

120 78 iHUD.esp

121 79 AddressUnknown.esp

122 7a FNIS_PCEA2.esp

123 7b Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp

124 7c Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

AMX CCO Andromeda Patch.esp

125 7d icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp

126 7e Kynesgrove.esp

127 7f Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

128 80 Karthwasten.esp

129 81 Storefront.esp

130 82 Convenient Horses.esp

131 83 Sperg EconomySpeechOH patch.esp

132 84 SkyrimIsWindy-HarvestOverhaul-Patch.esp

133 85 Dodge Mod.esp

134 86 Skytoxin.esp

135 87 Disable Combat Boundary.esp

136 88 PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp

137 89 ShrinesNoCureDisease.esp

Scarcity SE - 6x Loot Rarity.esp

Scarcity SE - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp

EconomyOverhaulandScarcityPatch.esp

138 8a Dragon Bridge.esp

139 8b Bells of Skyrim.esp

140 8c DisableFastTravel.esp

141 8d PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

142 8e The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

143 8f JKs Whiterun exterior.esp

144 90 HoldBorderBanners.esp

145 91 CollegeStudents.esp

146 92 DestructibleDisplayCases.esp

147 93 ImmersiveBees.esp

148 94 Stonehills Springs.esp

149 95 MCoW_CampfirePatch.esp

150 96 Tel Mithryn Prison.esp

151 97 Optional Starting Spells.esp

152 98 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

153 99 Racial Body Morphs - Imperious.esp

154 9a Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

155 9b CFTO.esp

156 9c more idle markers.esp

157 9d Darkwater Crossing.esp

158 9e Bells of Skyrim - ICAIO Patch.esp

159 9f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

160 a0 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

161 a1 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

162 a2 FarmhouseChimneysLAL+CRF.esp

163 a3 RDO - iAFT Patch.esp

*The LO is taken from the copy of LOOT

[Essoncletus]

Some aren't checkmarked from previous test and bashed patch. SO I GUESS I AM A BIT OVER 165!!! :O

[Essoncletus]

Yeah, I was pretty tired from work (Manual Laborer) when I posted this, so the correct number is 193........now because I have added a few more to it since the post, haha but the bashed patch turns off a good amount of them and haven't had any issues thus far with those ones that were off have been previously tested.

Today I'm converting Smart Cast and Be with Healer, as those are two must have mods for me from oldrim and then adding them to LO and then resorting with LOOT and then manually making adjustments such as moving the previous mentioned mods to the end and moving Legendary Crossbows after Ars metallica and whichever other ones I have to do so for. I also decided to add Jk's Whiterun and outskirts with Riverwood as well, along with outlaw refuges and skyrim sewers and the dead mage in cell for starting spells. My playthrough is based around making my character a combination of Rogue, Spellsword, Witchhunter, so Breton with decent sword/magic for when it comes down to the tight situations, with Alteration spells for sword draws, muffle for sneaking etc Since, I'm ramping up the difficulty, so a small three, maybe four character party will be necessary for encounters and travels but mostly I will attempt to keep it at two followers (Inigo and whoever else).
So basically my playthrough is focused on the skilltrees of Archery, Alchemy, Sneak, Conjuration, Light Armor for my 5 major; Destruction, Speech, Lockpicking, Illusion, One Handed as my 5 minors. Best I can in theory anyways. Alteration will play a role as well but won't be a major heavy focus in the late game, more of extra minor for insurance in tight situations.

Honestly, I want to have it figured out and sorted by tomorrow night and have my game be stable going into it. The towns and cities I just added are the ones I'm a bit concerned with, since most of the new additions are those mods but added in a few more to breath life into the world and give functionality in certain area's (like the blocking for dummies).

Here's my final load order without Be With Healer and Smart Cast.

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Campfire.esm

7 7 Sneak Tools.esp

8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

9 9 Cutting Room Floor.esp

10 a SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

11 b YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp

12 c SkyUI_SE.esp

13 d beltfastenedquivers.esp

14 e LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp

15 f timescale10.esp

16 10 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

17 11 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

18 12 DeadlyCombat.esp

19 13 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

20 14 Footprints.esp

21 15 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

22 16 SimplyKnock.esp

23 17 CraftingNeedsTools.esp

24 18 PeopleAreStrangers.esp

25 19 Simple Killable Children.esp

26 1a Proper Aiming.esp

27 1b Character Creation Overhaul.esp

28 1c CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp

29 1d CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp

30 1e Realistic-Voice.esp

31 1f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

32 20 FollowerWander2.esp

33 21 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp

34 22 No More Standing Too Close SSE 1-0.esp

35 23 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp

36 24 DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

37 25 DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

38 26 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

39 27 reflection-levelupmessages.esp

40 28 YOT - Reflection - Level Up Messages.esp

41 29 StavesAtback.esp

42 2a FNIS.esp

43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Darker.esp

44 2c MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp

45 2d Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

46 2e Immersive Jewelry.esp

47 2f Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp

48 30 SkyrimIsWindy.esp

49 31 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp

50 32 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp

51 33 skyforgedWeapons.esp

52 34 tcbm.esp

53 35 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp

54 36 EconomyOverhaulGeneralMerchantsBuyEverything.esp

55 37 EnchantingAdjustments.esp

56 38 AlchemyPotionsIngredientsAdjustments.esp

57 39 Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod.esp

58 3a RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

59 3b Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp

60 3c SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

61 3d Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp

62 3e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

63 3f OwnCivilWar.esp

64 40 Holidays.esp

65 41 Point The Way.esp

66 42 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

67 43 dovahkiinrelax.esp

68 44 Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp

69 45 TrueStormsSE.esp

70 46 TSCoT.esp

71 47 AngasMillReborn.esp

72 48 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

73 49 Laundry.esp

74 4a ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp

75 4b SkyrimSewers.esp

76 4c BecomeABard.esp

77 4d imp_helm_legend.esp

78 4e Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

79 4f Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp

80 50 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

81 51 JKs Whiterun.esp

82 52 Whitewatch Tower.esp

83 53 Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp

84 54 JK's Riverwood.esp

85 55 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

86 56 Cloaks.esp

87 57 Tel Mithryn.esp

88 58 Inigo.esp

89 59 Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp

90 5a Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

91 5b Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

92 5c Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

93 5d Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

94 5e fallentreebridgesSSE.esp

95 5f The Elder Scrolls Tomes - Skyrim Magic Addon.esp

96 60 OutlawsRefuges.esp

97 61 Immersive Patrols II.esp

98 62 UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

99 63 SPERG-SSE.esp

100 64 Mixwater Mill Reborn.esp

101 65 Hunterborn.esp

102 66 Shor's Stone.esp

103 67 Skyshards.esp

104 68 Frostfall.esp

105 69 Ivarstead.esp

106 6a FarmhouseChimneys.esp

107 6b Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

108 6c Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp

109 6d Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

110 6e RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp

111 6f YOT - Campfire.esp

112 70 YOT - Wearable Lanterns.esp

113 71 ScrimshawExpanded.esp

114 72 YOT - Hunterborn.esp

115 73 Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp

116 74 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp

117 75 Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp

118 76 1nivWICCloaks.esp

119 77 WetandCold.esp

120 78 TailArmors.esp

121 79 Ars Metallica.esp

122 7a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

123 7b Dr_Bandolier.esp

124 7c Ars Metallica - LSC Patch.esp

125 7d DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

126 7e KS Dragon Overhaul.esp

127 7f Mortal Enemies.esp

128 80 Mortal Enemies Patch - Realistic Animals Predators.esp

129 81 KS Dragon Overhaul - Mortal Enemies Patch.esp

130 82 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp

131 83 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

132 84 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp

133 85 XPMSSE.esp

134 86 IHSS.esp

135 87 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp

136 88 MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp

137 89 WondersofWeather.esp

138 8a MCoW_AnimatedClutter.esp

139 8b Fixed body collision.esp

140 8c UsefulDogs.esp

141 8d AskTheWay.esp

142 8e AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

143 8f iHUD.esp

144 90 AddressUnknown.esp

145 91 FNIS_PCEA2.esp

146 92 Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp

147 93 Dual Blocking for Idiots v1.35a.esp

148 94 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

149 95 AMX CCO Andromeda Patch.esp

150 96 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

151 97 Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp

152 98 Kynesgrove.esp

153 99 Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

154 9a Karthwasten.esp

155 9b Storefront.esp

156 9c Convenient Horses.esp

157 9d Sperg EconomySpeechOH patch.esp

158 9e SkyrimIsWindy-HarvestOverhaul-Patch.esp

159 9f Dodge Mod.esp

160 a0 Skytoxin.esp

161 a1 Disable Combat Boundary.esp

162 a2 PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp

163 a3 ShrinesNoCureDisease.esp

164 a4 Scarcity SE - 6x Loot Rarity.esp

165 a5 Scarcity SE - 4x Merchant Item Rarity.esp

166 a6 EconomyOverhaulandScarcityPatch.esp

167 a7 Dragon Bridge.esp

168 a8 Bells of Skyrim.esp

169 a9 DisableFastTravel.esp

170 aa PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

171 ab The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

172 ac JKs Whiterun exterior.esp

173 ad HoldBorderBanners.esp

174 ae CollegeStudents.esp

175 af DestructibleDisplayCases.esp

176 b0 ImmersiveBees.esp

177 b1 Stonehills Springs.esp

178 b2 MCoW_CampfirePatch.esp

179 b3 Tel Mithryn Prison.esp

180 b4 Optional Starting Spells.esp

181 b5 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

182 b6 Racial Body Morphs - Imperious.esp

183 b7 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

184 b8 CFTO.esp

185 b9 more idle markers.esp

186 ba Darkwater Crossing.esp

187 bb Bells of Skyrim - ICAIO Patch.esp

188 bc Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

189 bd Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

190 be Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

191 bf FarmhouseChimneysLAL+CRF.esp

192 c0 RDO - iAFT Patch.esp

Edited February 17, 2018 by Essoncletus

[Deleted47329688User]

i have so 135 mods i loot 1 time and then i bring only beter vampire lord transformation all the way down

or my lord look like half human form half old vampire lord form xd

 

then i dont start the game with nexus but with skse64 thx to a guide how to instal it

and the game run like a charm

[leonardo2]

These two mods will conflict since Immersive AFT (iAFT) is a stand alone mod from the original AFT and having a RDO patch for iAFT without having iAFT at the same time have AFT active could cause a CTD.

 

31 1f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

192 c0 RDO - iAFT Patch.esp (remove the RDO - iAFT mod patch since you need both the RDO - AFT patch and the RDO - CRF+USSEP patch)

 

Also, you need to move down AFT to the bottom (let LOOT place AFT where it should be and don't change the position of AFT) in your loadorder and not have AFT as you have now.

[Essoncletus]

I do have IAFT but the esp name is still AmazingFollowerTweaks, I redownloaded it but the ESP name never changed, should I manually change the name or leave as is?

[leonardo2]

Just leave it as it is.