Cataxu Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Can there at least be some sort of limit in place for the hot files list to limit the amount of one type of mod showing up? Right now if you head to the main page, there's four skimpy armor mods. I think anyone new to the website would think the community were made up of virgins. That's what it boils down to for me. Just vary the list up a bit, even scrolling the top 25 in that section would appease me. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovahrik Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) "We sing tales of kings, queens and their politics, 'tis true. But do you know who really makes history? The person who writes it." (Jorn, Bards College). I always find it amusing when players of ES games talk about "lore-friendly", as though that's some kind of cannon, carved in ancient stone. Bethesda, itself, can't decide from one game to the next what is "lore-friendly" and what isn't. Whether this is because they just don't give a skeever's behind about established lore or because their various developers don't talk to each other and aren't reqired to actually read up on the lore, is beside the point. The point is that they change things all the time. In truth, I think Bethesda's CEO is actually Mehrunes Dagon, the Lord of Change, in disguise. Now, we have talk of a lore-friendly Hot List, where "lore-friendly" is decided by the modders who submit their mods? I shudder to think of the consequences -- not that the players don't tend to be much more lore-knowledgeable than at least some of the developers of the game, of course. This little feature would be abused. Badly. Just because someone with a sex-mod wants to get it into the Hot List, you'll see stuff with skimpy (or no) underwear getting into the Lore-Friendly Hot Files ("Hey, people back in the days of Morrowind were making babies, right? This is lore-friendly, then!"). More work for the administrative staff, I'm afraid. I don't have a problem perusing the current day's uploads and changes. I can tell at a glance whether most of the mods I see are going to interest me or not. If I'm looking for something specific that might be buried in mods uploaded much earlier, I can still usually glance through the search results and almost instantly eliminate the (to me) undesirables. It takes but a few minutes. Besides, I'll be honest, here. What's "hot" to me will probably not be "hot" to most of the other gamers. I seldom see something on the Hot List that interests me, save for some of the essential mods that fix problems with the game. I'm an old-timer. I'm not into skimpy armor and "suggestive animations". I don't want a Dwemerized AK-47. I don't want modern-looking plush furniture for Breezehome. I want to increase the realism of my gaming experience. I want the bugs fixed. I want bad decisions by the developers corrected. Frankly, I couldn't care less about "lore-friendly". If it has a positive impact on my gaming experience, based upon what I'm looking for in the game, then it's a Good Mod. If it has a negative impact on my gaming experience, then it's a Bad Mod. Those are the only two categories that matter to me, and what's Good for me might well be Bad for you -- and vice versa. Funnily enough though, I would be one of those people who would see no problem with a sex mod being tagged as Lore friendly, the game has books about it for heavens sake! If someone doesn't want to see the sex/nude mods however there is already an option to block it. Which I already do not because I have a problem with nude mods but because it thankfully has the side effect of blocking a lot of skimpy stuff tagged as adult as well. I wouldn't have a problem with "lore friendly" covering a very wide spectrum, just keep all the stuff like modern day bikini's, anime outfits, jeans and tshirt, purple hair, etc out. Ideally I would be be happy with anything that basically fitted within Bethesda's reality. Either way, even if it didn't filter all of it out, it would still be a great thing if most of it was gone. Besides I am sure something could be worked out, there are currently tags, what if the author got to automatically drop 10 "points" into a tag, like lore friendly, and if the userbase really felt otherwise they could vote that tag down until it no longer appeared in the lore friendly area? Edited April 9, 2012 by Kovahrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamachus Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I would say leave the current front page the way it is. Hot Files is a honest representation of what people are downloading and liking. That's not a bad thing at all. Anyone who is surprised by the fact that, amazingly enough, most men enjoy pictures of mostly naked women has a lot more to learn in life than just how to sort mods by tag on a website. Trying to censor mature content above and beyond what the site already does not seem like a good investment of time and energy to me. I'm all for letting modders self-select for lore-friendly. Anyone who wants to be a jackass and put their hard work on display in a location where it won't be appreciated will get a reminder of the unpleasant truths of why good modders often quit the community in a huff. I really don't expect that to come up and trying to create a 'THESE ARE THE STONE-CARVED LAWS OF WHAT IS AND IS NOT LORE' list is doomed from inception. Let modders mark their work as 'lore friendly' if they want to. Let us have a second 'hot list' that only sorts the lore-friendly tagged mods. Let us do so with all the existing pre-built sorting methods (most popular in last 2 weeks, most popular of all time, etc). That's it. Simple, non-judgemental, as inclusive as possible while still achieving the generally desired results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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