jtraider7239 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The first time I started it up it was fine. I was able to create my character and all of that, but the second time I tried to open it, it would CTD. I didn't change a single thing after I started it up the first time. Here is my load order. I'm honestly don't know where to start Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmFalskaar.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espApachiiHair.esmUnlimitedBookshelves.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esmImCh.esmTKChildren.esmCampfire.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmnotice board.espImCh DB.esmImCh HF.esmdaymoyl.esmWM Flora Fixes.espRaceCompatibility.esmEFFCore.esmImCh DG.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espCutting Room Floor.espCMWoodenBows.espDragon Stalking Fix.espbrawlbug-plugin.espFISS.espSkyUI.espCustomizable Camera.espFNIS.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espRequiem.espETaC - Complete.espELFX - Exteriors.espRealisticRoomRental.espRelationship Dialogue Overhaul.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espFozars_Dragonborn_-_Requiem_Patch.espRequiem - Behind the Curtain.esp3DNPC.espPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espBetterQuestObjectives.espaMidianBorn_ContentAddon.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espCOR-CraftingOverhaulReqtified.espKFR-Kryptopyr'sFixesReqtified.espWetandCold.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esphjerimtnf.espImmersive Sounds - Compendium.espImmersive Merchandising.espCAR-ContentAddonReqtified.espImmersive Merchandising - Requiem Patch.espELFXEnhancer.espObsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.espRealShelter.espRRR_ELFX-Patch.espHelgen Reborn.espHSTNF.espUndeath.espWindhelm Exterior Altered.espHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.espCidhna Mine Expanded.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espImmersive Solstheim.esphearthfireextended.espFort(ified) Dawnguard.espHolidays.espPoint The Way.espRealisticWaterTwo.espThieves Guild Requirements.espTheChoiceIsYours.espInconsequential NPCs.espSolitude A City Of Trade.espSMIM-Merged-All.espCFTO.espAOS.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espImmersive Weapons.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory.espNightingale Hall.espWindhelmBetterDocks.espImmersive Whiterun.espSolitudeBetterDocks.espDragonmournInn.espImmersive Dawnstar.espCloaks.espImmersive Riverwood.espImmersive Orc Strongholds.espHeljarchenFarm.espImmersive Falkreath.espImmersive Rorikstead.espbuildablehouse.espImmersive Patrols II.espELFX - NoHjerim.espELFX - NoBreezehome.espELFX - NoProudspireManor.espELFX - NoHoneyside.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espwizDynamicThings.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espdD-Larger Splatter Size.espScopedBows.espEFFDialogue.espUIExtensions.espDead Body Collision.espSleepTight.espBeards.espBrows.espKWTelescope.espDwemer Goggles & Scouter.espWondersofWeather.espFNIS_PCEA2.esphonedmetal.espimp_helm_legend.espChesko_WearableLantern.espGrassOnSteroids_Short.espORM-Arvak.espClassicLevelUp.espYourMarketStall.espNotSoFast-MainQuest.espLandLord_.espStealthMeterTweak.espvSCM_SmarterCombatMusic.espAHZmoreHUD.espTavernGames.espRequiem - Legendary Bugsmasher Edition.espRequiem - No Messages.espSpellResearch.espImprovedFishBASIC.espTKChildren.espHunters Not Bandits.espmslVampiricThirst.espmslVampiricThirst - Requiem.espSpectacularNightEye.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espISCompendium CCO Patch.espISC Requiem Patch.espMzarkWonders.espMortal Enemies - Requiem - No Movement Tweaks.espRequiem and Undeath Patch.espUndeath Immersive Lichdom V3.espESFCompanions.espCollege of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Khajiit Speak).espCollege of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Normal).espDVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espRandomized Word Walls.espRRR_3DNPC-Patch.espMore Interesting Loot for Skyrim.espImmersive Morthal.espImmersive Horses.espImmersive Ivarstead.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espRealShelter_ETAC14.espCraftable Horse Barding.espFrostfall.espImmersive Dragon Bridge.espImmersive Shors stone.espVTRFR - Vampiric Thirst Redone For Requiem.espImmersive Karthwasten.espImmersive Darkwater crossing.espRiftenBetterDocks.espImmersive Stonehills.espImmersive Kynesgrove.espMorning Fogs.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.espTradeRoutes.espTradeBarter.espdaymoyl_DawnguardAddon.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espFishingInSkyrim.espHoldBorderBanners.espDawnstarBetterDocks.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espFaction Crossbows.espiNeed.espDisableRangedKillCams1.6.espiHUD.espVivid Snow.espRealistic-Voice.espNonEssentialChildren.espImmersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.espRDO - Requiem Patch.espRDO - Immersive Horses Patch.espRequiem - Restored Rewarding Sounds.espRequiem - Restored Saving Messages.espScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.espScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.espTakeNotes.espTrueStorms.espTrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.espTrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.espBounty Gold.espSolstheimBetterDocks.espISC CCF Patch.espISC WAFR Patch.espISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.espRequiem - Smithing Unchained.espCOR-Campfire.espCOR-FZR.espKFR-FZR.espCOR-WetAndCold.espCOR-WoodenBows.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espda_alternate_start_extension.espAlternate Start -- New Beginnings.espUltimateSkyrim.espUltimateSkyrimBugsmasher.espNRM Falskaar - Requiem Patch.espDesyncBirdsOfPrey.espHighHrothgarWindowGlow.espSolitudeExterior.espWhiterunExterior.espAutomatic Variants.espDynDOLOD.espRSPatch.espiActivate.espiActivate Patch.espRequiem for the Indifferent.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espDifferently Ebony.espDr_BandolierDG.espPrometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espGQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.espgetSnowy.espRealistic AI Detection 2 Lite.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espRealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.espDSerHorsesRevamped.espRDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.espBetterQuestObjectives-RequiemPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.espBetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.espDr_Bandolier.espISCompendium AOS Patch.espBrigandage.espRequiem - Telescope.espHouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.espBetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.espRequiem - Minor Arcana - USLEEP patch.espRequiem_Minor_Arcana.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastelandAssassin Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 how many plugins do you have in your load order?because this list is bloody long....... try running TES5Edit through MO , with all plugins activesee if it reports any problems , because it looks like you might have some load order issues (it's just very possible , due to the length of the list)also , have you tried rebooting your system? I've had such issues get solved by restarting my PC , maybe it will fix it for you as well also , just to be sure , when exactly does the game crash? upon loading it , or when trying to load the save? does it give any error messages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtraider7239 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 how many plugins do you have in your load order?because this list is bloody long....... try running TES5Edit through MO , with all plugins activesee if it reports any problems , because it looks like you might have some load order issues (it's just very possible , due to the length of the list)also , have you tried rebooting your system? I've had such issues get solved by restarting my PC , maybe it will fix it for you as well also , just to be sure , when exactly does the game crash? upon loading it , or when trying to load the save? does it give any error messages?Yeah, I installed the Ultimate Skyrim mod pack. I'm going through their plugins list on their website and changing anything out of the ordinary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardo2 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) Oh, boy. No wonder you got a CTD. o_O To answer your question about don't know where to start. 1. I suggest that you don't use MO for the time being and try to launch Skyrim without using MO.2. Also, try to launch Skyrim without MO and no mods, just to see if you can start a new game then re-load that gamesave (a normal save has the best result).3. Start using Wrye Bash and install all mods you wanted to use without using MO. To sum it up: I think you have way too many mods installed at the same time using MO, so I need ask you. Are you sure that all these mods you have posted are working together? Personally, I doubt that. Edited February 24, 2018 by leonardo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtraider7239 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Oh, boy. No wonder you got a CTD. o_O To answer your question about don't know where to start. 1. I suggest that you don't use MO for the time being and try to launch Skyrim without using MO.2. Also, try to launch Skyrim without MO and no mods, just to see if you can start a new game then re-load that gamesave (a normal save has the best result).3. Start using Wrye Bash and install all mods you wanted to use without using MO. To sum it up: I think you have way too many mods installed at the same time using MO, so I need ask you. Are you sure that all these mods you have posted are working together? Personally, I doubt that.Here is the link to the website: http://ultimateskyrim.bitballoon.com/verify-installation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtraider7239 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Oh, boy. No wonder you got a CTD. o_O To answer your question about don't know where to start. 1. I suggest that you don't use MO for the time being and try to launch Skyrim without using MO.2. Also, try to launch Skyrim without MO and no mods, just to see if you can start a new game then re-load that gamesave (a normal save has the best result).3. Start using Wrye Bash and install all mods you wanted to use without using MO. To sum it up: I think you have way too many mods installed at the same time using MO, so I need ask you. Are you sure that all these mods you have posted are working together? Personally, I doubt that.Here is the link to the website: http://ultimateskyrim.bitballoon.com/verify-installationI'll organize then update you. Almost done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtraider7239 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Oh, boy. No wonder you got a CTD. o_O To answer your question about don't know where to start. 1. I suggest that you don't use MO for the time being and try to launch Skyrim without using MO.2. Also, try to launch Skyrim without MO and no mods, just to see if you can start a new game then re-load that gamesave (a normal save has the best result).3. Start using Wrye Bash and install all mods you wanted to use without using MO. To sum it up: I think you have way too many mods installed at the same time using MO, so I need ask you. Are you sure that all these mods you have posted are working together? Personally, I doubt that.Here is the link to the website: http://ultimateskyrim.bitballoon.com/verify-installationI'll organize then update you. Almost done Well, I made progress. I was able to open the main menu but i wasn't able to do anything pass that because there were no main menu buttons (Continue, Load, new etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardo2 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 try running TES5Edit through MO , with all plugins activeThat is not recommended to do. Also, read this post as I find it very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardo2 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Oh, boy. No wonder you got a CTD. o_O To answer your question about don't know where to start. 1. I suggest that you don't use MO for the time being and try to launch Skyrim without using MO.2. Also, try to launch Skyrim without MO and no mods, just to see if you can start a new game then re-load that gamesave (a normal save has the best result).3. Start using Wrye Bash and install all mods you wanted to use without using MO. To sum it up: I think you have way too many mods installed at the same time using MO, so I need ask you. Are you sure that all these mods you have posted are working together? Personally, I doubt that.Here is the link to the website: http://ultimateskyrim.bitballoon.com/verify-installationI'll organize then update you. Almost done Well, I made progress. I was able to open the main menu but i wasn't able to do anything pass that because there were no main menu buttons (Continue, Load, new etc)If I were you I would scrap that so called guide and start learning of how to use Wrye Bash properly. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastelandAssassin Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) try running TES5Edit through MO , with all plugins activeThat is not recommended to do. Also, read this post as I find it very interesting. the idea behind running TES5Edit was just so it would give an error message if there is a master missing (because going through 200+ plugins to figure out a load order is a pain) may I ask why you consider MO to be such a problem? I've used several games with MO 1 & 2 , and it was mostly working wonderfulI've only used Wrye Bash once , for Oblivion , and while it is a rather useful and comfortable program , I would still use MO if I could as to the OP , I really doubt this guide is worth following200+ plugins just spells trouble , and I doubt anyone can verify this actually works properlyeither find a simpler guide , or start smaller and test your way up to a working game (installing 300 mods and only testing at the end will lead to major issues most of the time . if you have to use this guide , just install several mods , test that it works , and carry on like that) Edited February 25, 2018 by WastelandAssassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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