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Doing the Forlorn Watchman Quest. Killing Gabriel the Traitor causes the game to crash.

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I don't know what's causing it. I have a heavily modded game but I don't really crash much.

 

Here is my load order:

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.5.7]
02  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
03  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
04  Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
05  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
06  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
07  A_Bloody_Mess.esm
08  Lovers with PK.esm
09  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0A  Demolish System - Core.esm
0B  Knights - Revelation.esm
0C  FOMO Main.esp
++  FOMO EDD Exp Tona Store.esp
0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.5]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
10  Better Bell Sounds.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
11  GOSH.esp
12  GOSH Region Ambiance.esp
13  WindowLightingSystem.esp
14  00 Realistic Player Speech.esp
15  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
16  ChaseCameraMod.esp
17  ImprovedSigns.esp
18  More Effective Enchantments.esp
19  Personality Idles - Modified version.esp  [Version 1.5]
1A  P1DanywhereSittable.esp
1B  Camping.esp
1C  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
1D  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
1E  Demolish System - Flash Effects.esp
1F  Demolish System - Special Moves.esp
20  FormID Finder4.esp
21  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
22  MigMiscellanea.esp  [Version 1.82]
23  OblivionReloaded.esp
24  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
25  Sprinting.esp
26  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
27  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]
28  Ayleid Armor Standalone.esp
29  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
2A  DMZ Vanilla Armors Beta.esp
2B  Dynasty Armor DM-BBB.esp
2C  Immersive Weapons.esp
2D  ORM -Travelers' Cloaks.esp
2E  Ryk_Swimwear.esp
2F  strotisNewFood.esp
**  DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp
++  DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
30  DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp  [Version 1.3]
31  Neph's DMRA Robe Variety.esp
32  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
33  R18PN - Lingeries Plus.esp
34  Reaction - Additions Only.esp  [Version 1.12]
35  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
36  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.5.7]
37  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
++  DMRA BBB Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
38  OOOExtended.esp
39  RealitySpectreStars2HeavenBetterPotionsOOOEffects.esp
3A  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB7b]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp
3E  Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp
3F  WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bMMMorFCOM.esp
++  WAC - Weapon and Armor Tweak MOBS.esp
++  WAC - Arrow_MOBS.esp
40  WAC - OverSpawn.esp
41  WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bOOO.esp
++  WAC - Horses.esp
42  WAC - TCOS.esp
43  WAC - TCOS Shops.esp  [Version 03]
44  WAC - TCOSFix4v1.0b.esp
45  WAC - Magic.esp
++  WAC - Female Armor Refine.esp
++  WAC - HGEC Equipment Replacer.esp
++  WAC - Races RM-HGEC patch by Xtudo.esp
46  Oblivifall - Something Is Definately Not Right.esp
47  PAWindmills.esp
48  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]
49  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]
4A  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp
4B  HauntedHouse.esp  [Version y]
4C  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
**  Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp
4D  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
4E  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
**  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp
4F  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
**  Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp
50  Knights.esp
51  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
52  Knights - Revelation.esp
++  Mass Outfit Redesign.esp
**  DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
**  Knights - Revelation Vwalk.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp
53  Better Unique Items.esp
54  TOTF.esp
**  TOTF Vwalk.esp
++  TOTF Delayer.esp
55  The Lost Spires.esp
**  The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp
56  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
57  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
58  HESU AppleHotSprings.esp
59  HESU HellLands.esp
5A  OOO-HellLands Patch.esp
5B  KvatchRebuilt-HellLands Patch.esp
5C  HESU PoisonSwamp.esp
5D  HESU SkyrimTemple.esp
5E  HESU ValenwoodMine.esp
5F  HESU DiveRock.esp
60  HESU KoyoTown.esp
61  HESU WhiteRoseRiver.esp
++  Artifacts-WRR Patch.esp
++  KOTNR-WRR Patch.esp
++  LostSpires-WRR Patch.esp
62  HESU FairmereVillage.esp
63  KOTNR-Fairmere Patch.esp
64  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 2]
65  xulTheHeath.esp  [Version 2]
66  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 2]
67  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 2]
68  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 2]
69  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 2]
6A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 2]
6B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 2]
6C  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
6D  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 2]
**  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp
6E  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 2]
**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp
6F  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 2]
70  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 2]
71  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 2]
72  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 2]
73  Unique Landscapes.esp  [Version Dummy]
74  Better Dungeons.esp
++  A Bloody Mess_Fix.esp
75  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp
++  A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp
76  EnhancedMountedCombat.esp
++  ExpandedGreetings.esp  [Version 1.1]
77  Haldar's Mods Pack.esp  [Version 36.1.1]
78  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
79  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
7A  LoversRaperS.esp
7B  LoversSituations.esp
7C  LoversPayBandit.esp
7D  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5]
7E  Stav_ImperialDragon.esp
7F  tbskGuardsFeatures.esp
80  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
++  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
81  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
82  Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp  [Version 3.0.1]
++  AppleHotSprings-AltBeginnings Patch.esp
83  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
84  ConduitMagic.esp
85  AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.esp
86  FOV Modifier.esp
87  SetBody.esp
88  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
89  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]
8A  MidasSpells.esp
8B  kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp
8C  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
8D  GrabCompanionV2.esp
8E  ResetEmotionAfterCombat.esp
8F  DenockArrowToo.esp
90  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
91  DocDodge.esp
92  Oblivion XP.esp
93  zzEDialog.esp
94  Breathing Idle Animations.esp
95  FOMO Moments - A Pose Mod.esp
96  HAZeatanimations.esp
97  Kaizits New Animations PC.esp
98  Kaizits New Animations NPC.esp
99  77_Umpa_Animation.esp
**  MOBSification of MODS.esp
9A  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp
9B  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
9C  1em_Vilja_Neck_Seam_Concealer.esp
++  1em_Vilja_as_Moonshadow_Elf_Stranger.esp
9D  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  [SR] Khats & Args.esp
++  NPC Hair Matches Beard.esp
++  Alternate ghost shader.esp
++  BadderFireFX.esp
++  BadderFrostFX.esp
++  BadderShockFX.esp
9E  lumi_enchantments_subtle.esp
9F  qazFingerSnap.esp
++  SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp  [Version 0.86]
**  Sensual Walks.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
A0  Brucevayne's Sound Sets.esp  [Version 2.7]
A1  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
A2  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 4.9.1]
A3  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
A4  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
A5  DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Armors.esp
A6  DMRA BBB Crusader Armor - Revelation.esp
A7  NN_DeceiversFineryReplacer.esp
A8  Cover yourself when you sleep.esp
A9  TooSmallBikini.esp
AA  WAC - No Custom Races.esp
AB  Neph's DMRA Robes - Knights.esp
AC  Neph's DMRA Robes - Knights Revelation.esp
AD  DMZ Archmagus.esp
AE  VortexDMZArmors.esp
AF  ULS OscurosOblivionOverhaul-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 2]
B0  ULE KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
B1  ULE KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp  [Version 2]
B2  ULE HellLands-CloudtopMountains patch.esp  [Version 2]
B3  ULE SkyrimTemple-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 2]
B4  ULE KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
B5  ULS PoisonSwamp-BlackwoodForest patch.esp  [Version 2]
B6  ULE TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B7  ULE DiveRock-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 2]
B8  ULE DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B9  ULE WAC-DarkForest patch.esp
BA  ULE LostSpires-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 3]
BB  ULS SkyrimTemple-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 2]
BC  ULE TamrielicLore-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1]
BD  ULE KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
BE  ULE LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp  [Version 2]
BF  ULS KoyoTown-LushWoodlands patch.esp  [Version 2]
C0  ULE OscurosOblivionOverhaul-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 2]
C1  Oblivion Character Overhaul Hair Edition.esp
C2  HugTouch.esp
C3  Consistent Beggar Voices.esp
C4  Neph's DMRA Robes - Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
C5  Simple Saves (Hotkey Edition).esp
C6  OCO uses merged teeth.esp
C7  Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp
C8  tbskGuardsFeatures OOO Patch.esp

 

 

 

If there's one thing strange about him. is thta even though he is a Wraith he appears to have a shield dragging on the floor. I tried killing him with consolde and it crashes. I tried going to another cell, waiting 72 hours and yet it still crashes.

 

Another thing I should mention is that I do tweak my inis hear and there, like OR, OSR, Enboost. but thta can't be possible be the conflict? Sure they may cause the game to crash, but not in such a way that's easily replica table right?

 

I also had a very similar mod list last year and did this quest no problem ( I would say the new ones are the mods after the bashed patch.)

 

I will experiment, but it be nice if someone else had this problem that could show me what to do. Thanks.

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the simple way to test that is by deactive all mods after Bashed Patch,

then

enter the game again and see if the ctd Wraith killing still there or not. if Yes, then the culprit is there

but if it is Not

try this super useful obse plugin --> https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45870

hopefully it is something that can be detected by MessageLogger mod

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the simple way to test that is by deactive all mods after Bashed Patch,

then

enter the game again and see if the ctd Wraith killing still there or not. if Yes, then the culprit is there

but if it is Not

try this super useful obse plugin --> https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45870

hopefully it is something that can be detected by MessageLogger mod

Unticking all the mods leaves the game save unloadable.

 

What I will do is untick Warcry, kill Gabriel, then retick it.

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you've got it wrong... I didn't say deactive all the mods, I suggest to only turn off all mods after Bashed Patch

is the mod after Bashed Patch contain any custom race ?

in case of load savegame,

usually custom race is needed for the game can be safely loaded

either pc or actors around player, if there is missing race the game is 100% ctd in loading menu (when load savegame from main menu at first screen)

but nevermind

congratz ! the culprit has been found~

maybe you could try MessageLogger mod to see what error it produce (maybe)

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you've got it wrong... I didn't say deactive all the mods, I suggest to only turn off all mods after Bashed Patch

is the mod after Bashed Patch contain any custom race ?

in case of load savegame,

usually custom race is needed for the game can be safely loaded

either pc or actors around player, if there is missing race the game is 100% ctd in loading menu (when load savegame from main menu at first screen)

but nevermind

congratz ! the culprit has been found~

maybe you could try MessageLogger mod to see what error it produce (maybe)

Thanks for reading and the suggestions.

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