Intelligence Malfunction (USA)

[Arsisis]

Ok i know most people here arn't in the U.S., but you still may know what's going on.

Recently U.S. intelligence revealed there was no proof of weapons of mass destrution in Iraq. So this basically voids the main reason we invaded Iraq. But we are still recieving the oh-so-great oil. But we are paying for it out the ass (rebuilding iraq, not referring to oil prices). So i am wondering, what do you think happened? Do you think it was a setup for us to get the oil we need so badly? If so it was very private and the common people devoid of it. Or do you think that intelligence really just ***ked up that bad? There's many other ways to I guess. I just havn't heard enough opinions about this yet, we are not really getting any answers from the government either. What do you think happened, and were we just in doing it?

[hundinman]

Well, you need to remember that some weapons of mass destruction can be very small and fit into the pockets and purses of who may seem to be innocent Iraqi citizens. Iraq is not a dumb country and they could easily have what may be called a "secret service". Like soldiers who are undercover in normal clothes and store the weapons in their houses or whatever. Just because no evidence was found, doesn't mean they don't exist but we may have been worng about the weapon ordeal. One more thing: Evidence of the ATTEMPT to make the weapons is present and that is enough to verify our reason of invasion.

[Breton Thief Oriana]

It was to blindsight the american people from our presidents plans for world domination. With that said, it was because his dad didn't do it right the first time.

[Muennin]

By "President", I can only assume a reference to Cheney a.k.a. Halli Burton Corp.. With the added aside that to avenge a father played well with (you know which figurehead of which I speak). ;)

[Breton Thief Oriana]

yup, sure do. this is why the only good bush is Busch beer.

[Muennin]

To be honest, I've never tried that brand, Breton, but I'll take your word for it. Please don't get me wrong, or even WORSE...regard me as a happy-go-lucky conspiracist. I am an American citizen of the WORLD (sometimes pleased, sometimes saddened). And as my grandfather may have never returned from a P.O.W. camp subsequent to the bombing of Hiroshima, I'm hesitant to respond to posts regarding wartime efforts. I do not wish to annoy fellow world citizens, but rather, enlighten them as to my current (and modifiable) perspective.

 

 

That said, I will continue to support our troops abroad, their families, and all others who harbor misgivings for heading into war, death, and uncertainty.

[Zmid]

By "President", I can only assume a reference to Cheney a.k.a. Halli Burton Corp.. With the added aside that to avenge a father played well with (you know which figurehead of which I speak). ;)

Your reference to Haliburton reminds me of a link I saw on these forums a while back. I'll re-post it here:

 

Haliburton News Release

 

I find the first sentence of the second paragraph most interesting.

[loveme4whoiam]

For those who are too lazy to click the link:

The contract to do the work in Iraq, similar to work the company performed in both Bosnia and Kosovo, was competitively bid in 2001

 

Indeed, this is very interesting. I'd like to go back a few posts.

 

Well, you need to remember that some weapons of mass destruction can be very small and fit into the pockets and purses of who may seem to be innocent Iraqi citizens. Iraq is not a dumb country and they could easily have what may be called a "secret service". Like soldiers who are undercover in normal clothes and store the weapons in their houses or whatever. Just because no evidence was found, doesn't mean they don't exist but we may have been worng about the weapon ordeal.

 

When people refer to weapons of mass destruction, i usually think of ICBM's with nuclear tips, which i'm pretty certain don't fit into the pocket of the average Iraqi citizen. I don't doubt that they had a "secret police" of some kind; since Saddam was a dictator, i'm certain he did have one. But could these people hide such weapons when the UN weapons inspectors are crawling over the country.

 

One more thing: Evidence of the ATTEMPT to make the weapons is present and that is enough to verify our reason of invasion.

 

I'd like to point out that these were shut down (i think) by the last UN inspectors. The combined efforts of the US, UK, and UN intelligence services have failed to find weapons of mass destruction. I think we can safely say they aren't there.

 

I'll leave everybody to slag off Bush some more, since i see the futility of this until election day :D

[TheDeadTree]

Yet people neglect to remeber that we gave Saddam a good deal of his Weapons of Mass Destruction, and then turned a blind eye to him using them against the Kurds.

 

It's just a crazy, mixed-up world. We got rid of Saddam just for another one to pop up. We'll get rid of Bush, but it won't do anything. The Republicans will still have the house, the judicial branch, and quite possibly the senate. So even if the democrats win the election the deck is stacked against them. Not to mention most of them aren't worth a salt anyways.

[Breton Thief Oriana]

WORSE...regard me as a happy-go-lucky conspiracist. I am an American citizen of the WORLD (sometimes pleased, sometimes saddened). And as my grandfather may have never returned from a P.O.W. camp subsequent to the bombing of Hiroshima, I'm hesitant to respond to posts regarding wartime efforts. I do not wish to annoy fellow world citizens, but rather, enlighten them as to my current (and modifiable) perspective.That said, I will continue to support our troops abroad, their families, and all others who harbor misgivings for heading into war, death, and uncertainty.

 

I support our troops like anyone else. i dont support somw of the things they are made to fight in.