tony19950725 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I've enabled most of my mods and the other mods they need to work. I've done FO4edit to clean up the mods that said they needed to be cleaned up via LOOT program and checked each mod in my mods list to see if they say they need a mod to be activated or detected. After no indication of any error or abnormalities, I run the game and as I go to the load order menu even then still no issues at all. However, If I have cheat terminal active, I still can't find it in the pipboy menus. As I check in NMM, most of the mods I activated were disabled for some reason. Once I reactivate them and run the game, the same effect happens again. Has anybody come across this issue before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbiller Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Things to check:1. Post the mod list and order here, that will help us help you.2. Check if any of these mods have updates, if they do, uninstall the old version, bring in the new one.3. Check NMM version (github has the most current).4. Are these terminals just a holotape, or are they affecting an actual flash file like the pause menu or hud? If they work on a flash file you really need to watch out for conflicts. In place of those terminals, I'd head the Better Console and Survival Options route, but that will be need specific. Survival options will let you have console access and you can keep the target info vs what normal survival offers, plus you can save at will. MCM is probably a mod you'll want since many mods use that instead of a settings or menu holotape (you can still get the tapes as a just in case), though DEF_UI may also have some issues depending on what you're running. I do recommend the Unofficial Patch and F4SE (the Script Extender), as many mods also need that. Better console does offer some useful additions, too, hence my recommendation. With the mods I mentioned installed the only thing you miss out on is god mode, the rest console commands will do (carry weight, flight, no clip, etc). Not that I plan on using those myself. Hopefully these pieces will help you and once we see what you've got in mind that will further help us help you. Edited March 22, 2018 by bbiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony19950725 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Things to check:1. Post the mod list and order here, that will help us help you.2. Check if any of these mods have updates, if they do, uninstall the old version, bring in the new one.3. Check NMM version (github has the most current).4. Are these terminals just a holotape, or are they affecting an actual flash file like the pause menu or hud? If they work on a flash file you really need to watch out for conflicts. In place of those terminals, I'd head the Better Console and Survival Options route, but that will be need specific. Survival options will let you have console access and you can keep the target info vs what normal survival offers, plus you can save at will. MCM is probably a mod you'll want since many mods use that instead of a settings or menu holotape (you can still get the tapes as a just in case), though DEF_UI may also have some issues depending on what you're running. I do recommend the Unofficial Patch and F4SE (the Script Extender), as many mods also need that. Better console does offer some useful additions, too, hence my recommendation. With the mods I mentioned installed the only thing you miss out on is god mode, the rest console commands will do (carry weight, flight, no clip, etc). Not that I plan on using those myself. Hopefully these pieces will help you and once we see what you've got in mind that will further help us help you. 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 AutoUnequipPipboy.esm 9 9 Robot Home Defence.esm 10 a Snap'n Build.esm 11 b HUDFramework.esm 12 c TrueStormsFO4.esm 13 d simsettlements.esm 14 e Homemaker.esm 15 f ArmorKeywords.esm 16 10 Reload Sounds.esp 17 11 Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp 18 12 Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp 19 13 Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp 20 14 bugfix_maglocks_terminal_delay.esp 21 15 AIO SS.esp 22 16 Locksmith.esp 23 17 LongerPowerLinesInf.esp 24 18 Move (Get Out the Way).esp 25 19 NoNegativeAffinity.esp 26 1a NoAffinityCooldown.esp 27 1b PhysicalUnlocksAddons.esp 28 1c PhysicalUnlocks.esp 29 1d Follower Revive System.esp 30 1e PipBoyShadows.esp 31 1f Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp 32 20 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 33 21 NSA All-in-One.esp 34 22 NSA DLCCoast.esp 35 23 NSA DLCNukaWorld.esp 36 24 NSA DLCRobot.esp 37 25 NSA DLCworkshop01.esp 38 26 Better Vendor Stalls.esp 39 27 freecraftersp.esp 40 28 nuka_world_settlements.esp 41 29 Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp 42 2a Armorsmith Extended.esp 43 2b Unique NPCs.esp 44 2c AirshipHome.esp 45 2d EferasBetterBeds.esp 46 2e BetterSettlers.esp 47 2f BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp 48 30 BetterSettlersLightArmorOnly.esp 49 31 BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp 50 32 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp 51 33 RepairSanctuary.esp 52 34 mso_sms.esp 53 35 SettleObjExpandPack.esp 54 36 PA-Quick Animations.esp 55 37 HoloTime.esp 56 38 keyNuker.esp 57 39 DV-Very Durable Vertibirds.esp 58 3a DV-Armored Pilots.esp 59 3b LongerHeadlampLight.esp 60 3c TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp 61 3d MTM-NoGreenWeather.esp 62 3e TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp 63 3f TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp 64 40 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp 65 41 3dscopes-framework.esp 66 42 3dscopes-replacer.esp 67 43 3dscopes-replacer-addtospawn.esp 68 44 LovingCait.esp 69 45 PlatinumCurieV2.1.esp 70 46 castlewallsrepaired 3.esp 71 47 CrimeTown.esp 72 48 unlockworkshopfixlairairport.esp 73 49 settlementheight9000-aio.esp 74 4a Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp 75 4b Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 76 4c TrainBar.esp 77 4d Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp 78 4e QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp 79 4f CheatTerminal.esp 80 50 My_Minutemen.esp 81 51 RRTV_EdenCinemaHome.esp 82 52 Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp 83 53 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp 84 54 jm-vaulttecsecurityarmor.esp 85 55 shezloft.esp 86 56 radionam.esp 87 57 fn five-seven v3.0.esp 88 58 this is my bed.esp 89 59 skipdimaspuzzles.esp 90 5a lots more beards and moustaches.esp 91 5b factionmaintenance.esp 92 5c CigaretteInMouth.esp 93 5d CROSS_Jetpack.esp 94 5e K9TacticalHarness.esp 95 5f Rangergearnew.esp 96 60 ManCoat.esp 97 61 SettlementPrivacy.esp 98 62 BetterJunkFences.esp 99 63 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp100 64 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp101 65 EnclaveX02.esp102 66 Marmo1233 - PowerArmorAirdrop.esp103 67 AtomicRadio.esp104 68 Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp105 69 buildyourownvault.esp106 6a CWSS Redux.esp107 6b OWR_AOC.esp108 6c Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp109 6d EatFood.esp110 6e MiscHairstyle.esp111 6f Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp112 70 the eyes of beauty.esp113 71 LooksMenu.esp114 72 NukaRadBans.esp115 73 Synth Overhaul.esp116 74 Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp117 75 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp118 76 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-Restored Content.esp119 77 StartMeUp.esp 2. I downloaded these mods yesterday after I reinstalled the game for a clean setup and restructuring the mods. 3. The cheat terminal shows up in one of the pipboy menus all the way up top of the pipboy list but is not there nor do I get a message as I start a game up for the first time saying the cheat terminal mod is enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony19950725 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Things to check:1. Post the mod list and order here, that will help us help you.2. Check if any of these mods have updates, if they do, uninstall the old version, bring in the new one.3. Check NMM version (github has the most current).4. Are these terminals just a holotape, or are they affecting an actual flash file like the pause menu or hud? If they work on a flash file you really need to watch out for conflicts. In place of those terminals, I'd head the Better Console and Survival Options route, but that will be need specific. Survival options will let you have console access and you can keep the target info vs what normal survival offers, plus you can save at will. MCM is probably a mod you'll want since many mods use that instead of a settings or menu holotape (you can still get the tapes as a just in case), though DEF_UI may also have some issues depending on what you're running. I do recommend the Unofficial Patch and F4SE (the Script Extender), as many mods also need that. Better console does offer some useful additions, too, hence my recommendation. With the mods I mentioned installed the only thing you miss out on is god mode, the rest console commands will do (carry weight, flight, no clip, etc). Not that I plan on using those myself. Hopefully these pieces will help you and once we see what you've got in mind that will further help us help you. 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 AutoUnequipPipboy.esm 9 9 Robot Home Defence.esm 10 a Snap'n Build.esm 11 b HUDFramework.esm 12 c TrueStormsFO4.esm 13 d simsettlements.esm 14 e Homemaker.esm 15 f ArmorKeywords.esm 16 10 Reload Sounds.esp 17 11 Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp 18 12 Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp 19 13 Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp 20 14 bugfix_maglocks_terminal_delay.esp 21 15 AIO SS.esp 22 16 Locksmith.esp 23 17 LongerPowerLinesInf.esp 24 18 Move (Get Out the Way).esp 25 19 NoNegativeAffinity.esp 26 1a NoAffinityCooldown.esp 27 1b PhysicalUnlocksAddons.esp 28 1c PhysicalUnlocks.esp 29 1d Follower Revive System.esp 30 1e PipBoyShadows.esp 31 1f Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp 32 20 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 33 21 NSA All-in-One.esp 34 22 NSA DLCCoast.esp 35 23 NSA DLCNukaWorld.esp 36 24 NSA DLCRobot.esp 37 25 NSA DLCworkshop01.esp 38 26 Better Vendor Stalls.esp 39 27 freecraftersp.esp 40 28 nuka_world_settlements.esp 41 29 Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp 42 2a Armorsmith Extended.esp 43 2b Unique NPCs.esp 44 2c AirshipHome.esp 45 2d EferasBetterBeds.esp 46 2e BetterSettlers.esp 47 2f BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp 48 30 BetterSettlersLightArmorOnly.esp 49 31 BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp 50 32 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp 51 33 RepairSanctuary.esp 52 34 mso_sms.esp 53 35 SettleObjExpandPack.esp 54 36 PA-Quick Animations.esp 55 37 HoloTime.esp 56 38 keyNuker.esp 57 39 DV-Very Durable Vertibirds.esp 58 3a DV-Armored Pilots.esp 59 3b LongerHeadlampLight.esp 60 3c TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp 61 3d MTM-NoGreenWeather.esp 62 3e TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp 63 3f TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp 64 40 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp 65 41 3dscopes-framework.esp 66 42 3dscopes-replacer.esp 67 43 3dscopes-replacer-addtospawn.esp 68 44 LovingCait.esp 69 45 PlatinumCurieV2.1.esp 70 46 castlewallsrepaired 3.esp 71 47 CrimeTown.esp 72 48 unlockworkshopfixlairairport.esp 73 49 settlementheight9000-aio.esp 74 4a Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp 75 4b Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 76 4c TrainBar.esp 77 4d Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp 78 4e QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp 79 4f CheatTerminal.esp 80 50 My_Minutemen.esp 81 51 RRTV_EdenCinemaHome.esp 82 52 Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp 83 53 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp 84 54 jm-vaulttecsecurityarmor.esp 85 55 shezloft.esp 86 56 radionam.esp 87 57 fn five-seven v3.0.esp 88 58 this is my bed.esp 89 59 skipdimaspuzzles.esp 90 5a lots more beards and moustaches.esp 91 5b factionmaintenance.esp 92 5c CigaretteInMouth.esp 93 5d CROSS_Jetpack.esp 94 5e K9TacticalHarness.esp 95 5f Rangergearnew.esp 96 60 ManCoat.esp 97 61 SettlementPrivacy.esp 98 62 BetterJunkFences.esp 99 63 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp100 64 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp101 65 EnclaveX02.esp102 66 Marmo1233 - PowerArmorAirdrop.esp103 67 AtomicRadio.esp104 68 Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp105 69 buildyourownvault.esp106 6a CWSS Redux.esp107 6b OWR_AOC.esp108 6c Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp109 6d EatFood.esp110 6e MiscHairstyle.esp111 6f Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp112 70 the eyes of beauty.esp113 71 LooksMenu.esp114 72 NukaRadBans.esp115 73 Synth Overhaul.esp116 74 Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp117 75 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp118 76 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-Restored Content.esp119 77 StartMeUp.esp 2. I downloaded these mods yesterday after I reinstalled the game for a clean setup and restructuring the mods. 3. The cheat terminal shows up in one of the pipboy menus all the way up top of the pipboy list but is not there nor do I get a message as I start a game up for the first time saying the cheat terminal mod is enabled. Turns out I had another NMM folder on another drive and the program applied the mod but not from the right folder. All I did was uninstall everything including nmm, loot, fo4edit, and any files they left and just reinstalled the game first. Then installed nmm and the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbiller Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Next on the list of things to fix:1. That NSA mod: the first says all in one and the rest look like DLC patches. I would check on that and make sure the all in one doesn't already have you covered (might free some mod slots).2. Check on that Physical Unlocks mod: I'm thinking the addons may need to be after the main file.3. You may want to move Scrap Everything Ultimate Edition to last on the list and you may need Scrap Everything also as I think that's the base mod for it (Check the Scrap Everything mod page to check on this). I know what helped make sure all was well for me was having Spring Cleaning and Scrap Everything at or near the end of my plugins list (if the mod isn't working all scrapped debris, leaves, and other things folks would use a broom, a few good whacks of an ax, or scoops with a shovel to fix will show up until you get the mod working again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony19950725 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Next on the list of things to fix:1. That NSA mod: the first says all in one and the rest look like DLC patches. I would check on that and make sure the all in one doesn't already have you covered (might free some mod slots).2. Check on that Physical Unlocks mod: I'm thinking the addons may need to be after the main file.3. You may want to move Scrap Everything Ultimate Edition to last on the list and you may need Scrap Everything also as I think that's the base mod for it (Check the Scrap Everything mod page to check on this). I know what helped make sure all was well for me was having Spring Cleaning and Scrap Everything at or near the end of my plugins list (if the mod isn't working all scrapped debris, leaves, and other things folks would use a broom, a few good whacks of an ax, or scoops with a shovel to fix will show up until you get the mod working again). Ok thanks, I downloaded the same mods but with new ones too. I'll keep note of this so I can make adjustments if I have to. Everything is working again. It's just when I use Fallout 4 Script Extender, the game force closes after a long while or when I go to specific areas. I downloaded a log reader to see what causes the force closes. I just need to read it. I appreciate the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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