Consistent CTD's from 'StonehillsSirgarCarryLumbe' file - need help!

[Jenx137]

Hi wise and mighty modders, looking for help to fix a pretty consistent CTD... Basically, the crashes at first seemed random, but have consistently shown up in Mages College. The repeat offender that keeps cropping up in the papyrus logs is this:

 

[03/30/2018 - 12:48:58PM] Error: Cannot call ChangeCarryState() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[ (00064962)].PF_StonehillsSirgarCarryLumbe_00064962.Fragment_1() - "PF_StonehillsSirgarCarryLumbe_00064962.psc" Line 27

 

 

Or every now and then, to mix things up, this shows up instead:

 

[04/02/2018 - 03:55:47PM] Error: Cannot call ChangeCarryState() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[ (0006495F)].PF_StonehillsSwanhvirCarryLum_0006495F.Fragment_3() - "PF_StonehillsSwanhvirCarryLum_0006495F.psc" Line 27

 

I'm slowly losing hope, patience and sanity trying to fix this!

Tried all sorts, including save cleaning, cleaning the master files, uninstalling mods I thought were affecting it (USSEP, Immersive Citizens, FNIS), searching for the files in the directory (turns out, in data>source, but also in the Skyrim-Misc.bsa), using SSEEdit to find files (haven't changed anything yet though), and standing on one leg reciting incantations. And still no luck.

 

Got 200+ esps loaded, so wouldn't like to reinstall everything unless it's an absolute last resort! Also fairly new to modding, so any ideas from much more experienced heads would be much appreciated!

 

Load Order:

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1

Falskaar.esm=1

Campfire.esm=1

Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp=1

Inns and Taverns.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1

Quest Conflict Fixes.esp=1

FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1

IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1

SkyUI_SE.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

SkyHUD.esp=1

SkyHUD - iHUD Patch.esp=1

AHZmoreHUD.esp=1

AMatterOfTime.esp=1

XPMSSE.esp=1

JaxonzRenamer.esp=1

TerrainLodRedone.esp=1

Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp=1

Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE_Dungeon.esp=1

UltimateLoreLoadingScreen.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Clockwork.esp=1

ForgottenCity.esp=1

QaxeQuestorium.esp=1

Frostfall.esp=1

Hunterborn.esp=1

Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp=1

Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp=1

PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch CDO.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

Ars Metallica.esp=1

ClassicClasses.esp=1

Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1

CCB_AndromedaPatch.esp=1

Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1

PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

dD-Medium Script Range.esp=1

Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp=1

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1

Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp=1

EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp=1

EconomyOverhaulandOrdinatorPatch.esp=1

Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1

Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1

OBIS SE.esp=1

Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1

Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1

Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1

Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp=1

DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1

Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp=1

ORM-Arvak.esp=1

Skysan_Icicle.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp=1

More_Saddles.esp=1

More_Saddles - Frost - Knight - RHB.esp=1

BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp=1

BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=1

Animal Tweaks.esp=1

Animal Tweaks - OBIS Patch.esp=1

TrueStormsSE.esp=1

Obsidian Weathers.esp=1

True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp=1

MajesticMountains.esp=1

MajesticMountains_Moss.esp=1

S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp=1

Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp=1

BlendedRoads.esp=1

Weathered Road Signs.esp=1

Weathered Road Signs - CRF.esp=1

ImprovedRoads.esp=1

JKs Whiterun.esp=1

Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp=1

Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp=0

Solitude Exterior Addon.esp=1

MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1

MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

MCoW_CampfirePatch.esp=1

Raven Rock.esp=1

Raven Rock - Clockwork Patch.esp=1

JKs Markarth.esp=1

JKs Windhelm.esp=0

SkyrimSewers.esp=1

OutlawsRefuges.esp=1

Deadly Shadows over Solitude.esp=1

Deadly Shadows of Riften.esp=1

Deadly Shadows of Windhelm.esp=1

Dragon Bridge.esp=1

DragonbridgeVendorsAndBlacksmith.esp=1

Tel Mithryn.esp=1

ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp=1

Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp=1

Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1

Settlements Expanded SE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Overstead.esp=1

cliffs.esp=1

Convenient Bridges.esp=1

Northern Marsh Bridges SE.esp=1

The Ruins.esp=1

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp=1

Whitewatch Tower.esp=1

TacticalValtheim.esp=1

HoldBorderBanners.esp=1

frozenintime.esp=1

BetterTreasuryHouse.esp=1

Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp=1

BooksOfSkyrim.esp=1

Crossroads Inn.esp=1

CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp=1

Potions.esp=1

Potions Patch.esp=1

BottlesOfSkyrim_RND_compatible.esp=1

RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

EmbersHD.esp=1

FireBurns.esp=1

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1

Cloaks&Capes.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Elemental_Staffs.esp=1

DaedraHuntress.esp=1

EnneadShields.esp=1

KatriaBow.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=0

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

babes combined.esp=1

Realistic Haircolors.esp=1

Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp=1

Beards.esp=1

SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp=1

The Ordinary Women.esp=1

Bijin Warmaidens.esp=0

Bijin Wives.esp=0

Bijin NPCs.esp=0

Bijin AIO.esp=1

Aesthetic Elisif.esp=1

Ambriel.esp=1

XG_Followers.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp=1

Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp=1

KS Jewelry.esp=1

TKAA.esp=1

BooksOfSkyrim TKAA Patch.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp=1

Falskaar TKAA Patch.esp=1

ForgottenCity TKAA Patch.esp=1

magic of the magna-ge.esp=1

Bloodworm.esp=1

LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Obsidian Weathers Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - True Storms Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Book of Silence Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Ordinator Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Sacrosanct Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Unique Uniques Patch.esp=1

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Zim's Immersive Artifacts Patch.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp=1

attack commitment movement speed fluid 3.esp=1

Realistic Melee Range.esp=1

Believable Crime Report Radius.esp=1

Race Scale Remover.esp=1

sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1

No NPC Greetings.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

AFT - USSEP Patch.esp=1

Inigo.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1

AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1

Darkwater Crossing.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1

RDO - USSEP Patch.esp=0

RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp=1

ELE_SSE.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp=1

MCoW_RelightingSkyrim.esp=1

MCoW_ELE.esp=1

OutlawRefugesELEPatch.esp=1

FNIS.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

FNIS_PCEA2.esp=1

TKDodge.esp=1

RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Thanks in advance!

[SuperDuperRon]

Hi once i had a similar problem when approaching solitude. For me the problem was a magic mod i was using at the time.

You don't have to uninstall all your mods to check them, you can just toggle on/off the esp for each one.

You can do that through the "plugins" tab in NMM or through Skyrim's main menu. From the main menu (continue, load, new game...) there's a place to change your load order,

you can toggle the esp's there.

 

I normally turn them all off, then turn a handful back on at a time, until i figure out which one is causing the problem.

If you do it this way, you may get a CTD on start up. Don't worry if it does. You just have a mod that requires something you just turned off.

You can figure out which one it is using TES Edit.

 

These kinds of problems suck, i feel your pain man. Fixing these kinds of things normally takes a lot of patience (1st hand experience lol).

If you do figure it out, don't forget to post what the problem was, you never know if it'll help someone else down the road.

 

Good luck

[Jenx137]

Hey, thanks for the reply! Yeah looks like I'll have to just crack on with it and go through each of these mods to find the issue. I've switched on and off several esp's through NMM that I thought may be to blame, but it may be something completely random that's causing the crashes.

 

The strange thing is, I've looked for what might be causing the script problem (think it was with SSE Edit), and it only ever points to main Skyrim Master, but the 'none object' could be anything I guess!

 

Which magic mod were you having trouble with, out of curiosity? I've got a few installed, doing a mage playthrough, so that'll be brutal if it turns out to be a magic mod haha.

 

I'll update this if I figure out the problem - couldn't find anything relevant through Google so either it's really obscure, or just blindingly obvious!

[SuperDuperRon]

It's best to turn them all off to make sure it doesn't happen with out mods. Sometimes ya just have to bite the bullet and do a fresh install (hopefully that's not your case).

The magic mod was "colorful magic", but that was back in Old-rim. I must have had a goofy download cause re-downloading the mod fixed it.

 

If you love magic, you should definitely try out "Colorful Magic" It's easily my favorite magic mod, and it just recently got ported to SE.

 

Yeah, "really obscure" tends to be most of my issues as well lol. Once i had this slight visual bug, but only in full screen. Long story short, update my TV's firmware fixed it. Crazy.