Serious script lag

[Leandro15]

always after i have a few hours of playthrough i start getting this weird lag,, example i turn on night vision then to turn it off it takes almost 5 seconds or so, but it applies to most powers as well, and it happens on conversations too, and from this just goes worse and worse as i progress, iv had to start over once but now it happens again. .

this gets really frustrating not being able to use a power/shout the right time you need it..

 

i dont know how much people have experienced this, but its however is a major gameplay killer :(

[xlcr]

confirm what your timescale is currently set to (default is '20.00') use console command:

help timescale or show timescale

normally you should see default value '20.00' returned, anything less than 20.00 slows things down, anything more speeds things up.

 

fyi, value of 1.00 makes time advance at the same rate as the real world; not recommended, known to cause script event errors like what you've described.

you can change the game's timescale to the default value of 20.00 using console command:

set timescale to 20.00

(some people set this in the range of 8-15 because they like longer days..)

 

also suggest you peek at your current active effects list (magic 'P' key, select effect/powers) and look for any stuck persistent effect that may exist.

are you running any 'fancy' mods?

Edited April 21, 2012 by xlcr

[trustinall]

are you 100 percent positive that altered timescales cause problems with scripts? i have been using timescale five for forever, yet i've always kept away from script mods cause i heard they cause problems... lately i tried dynavision though and guess what, i ran into problems after a while. so yeah, are you positive changing the timescale is the cause and not some bug in the engine and or scriptmods?

 

edit: without using scriptmods i never had any problems with my altered timescale (200+ hours of playing :P)

Edited April 21, 2012 by trustinall

[xlcr]

hi trustinall, agreed, i've also set mine as low as 5 or more for longterm gameplay (i like longer realistic days); and,

rarely/never experienced game breaking script/event issues - did notice a few quest event/update delays only.

Never anything like Leandro15 described (lagging actions/effects/powers/dialog).

 

Just trying to help with troubleshooting if possible, I suspect Leandro15 may have a rogue/stray scripted mod installed or mod/patch version mismatch.

Probably best if heavily scripted mods are disabled/uninstalled one by one to recreate/solve the extreme lag issues.

 

Leandro15, would be helpful if you could post a list of the mods you're running or your DLCList.txt?

Do you have a powerful PC? What's the current average size of your gamesaves?

Edited April 21, 2012 by xlcr

[RedRavyn]

The delay that Leandro is experiencing doesn't sound like its related to the timescale. Timescale has no effect (or at least it shouldn't have any effect) on how rapidly the game engine processes scripts. What it sounds like is that there may be a "script overload" so that the game can't keep up with the number of simultaneously running scripts. I've seen that have similar effects in Oblivion with poorly-constructed mods.

 

As far as timescale causing bugs, yes, a timescale of "1" has been well-documented to cause problems, some of them quite serious, with script timing in Oblivion. I ran with that timescale most of the time, but I knew what quests might be affected badly by that, and would reset the timescale to the default "30" when I had one of those quests active.

 

I ran with a timescale of "1" in Skyrim for a short while and noticed a LOT of instances where actors would "stall out", only continuing what they were supposed to be doing if I either interacted with them or used the console to move them a short distance from where they were standing. This behavior drastically decreased when I upped the timescale to "2", but it still happens occasionally.

 

Using a timescale of "10", I see almost none of this. I consider a timescale of "2" to be "safe" in that I've encountered no script faults that have broken anything when running with it. I think, though, that a timescale of "5" to "8" is likely to be much safer.

[Leandro15]

i have a medium pc, runs skyrim well without any noticeable framerate problems, and my savegames size is only around 5 mb T.T

i've been trying to deactivate mods in group to see if i could find the problem, i found out Dynavision caused some of the lag, but it still persisted

Also, i run some vampire character mods, and i think this started after i turn to vampire, theres big possibility i currently have some glitched Active Effects , i deactivated the mods but had no difference in the lag though.

altering the timescale didnt had any effects

 

well i assume i'll had to start all over again :S

 

heres my dlc list.(not all of these mods are activated )

 

Jump350.esp

Sprint2.esp

Blood (Bloodbath).esm

Magicka Revamp - Destruction - Extra Spells - WIP.esp

Tytanis.esp

RingsOfPower.esp

Lisette Wife Companion.esp

nighteyetoggle.esp

togglevampiresight.esp

Unlimited_Rings.esp

VPBV1.3.esp

OverlookTower v1.0 by SLuckyD.esm

BlackSacramentArmor.esp

Magicka Sabers.esp

Advanced Vampires No sun damage.esp

Advanced Vampires sun damage.esp

AdvancedWerewolf.esp

Better Aura Whisper & Detect Aura Spell.esp

BetterMage.esp

Bound Weapons Upgrade.esp

Conjure Skeleton.esp

Crafting300.esp

Destruction Mod.esp

DPArmor.esp

DualCasting,Cost,FinishingMove Boosts.esp

hideout.esm

hideout.esp

Illusion Spell Tweaks.esp

IPutASpellOnYou.esp

Killable Children V2.2.esp

longercandlelight.esp

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp

Mannequin.esm

MidasSkyrim.esp

ninjatos.esp

No Helmets Required.esp

No Perk Prereqs - No Helmets Required.esp

No Perk Prereqs.esp

Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp

posesivecorpses.esp

PowerfulShouts.esp

PrometheusCapes_armorsfix.esp

Purewaters.esp

QuadSouls Perks.esp

RamaTeleporterSystem_v1.esp

RingDragonWyrm2.esp

ShadowStripingFix.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

Vampire Sight.esp

Weapons and Armor Fixes - Hacks.esp

Weapons and Armor Fixes.esp

WiS IV - AI & Spells for NPC.esp

WiS IV - New Equipement for NPC.esp

WiS IV - Perks for NPC.esp

WiS IV - Races.esp

WiS IV - Realistic Combat.esp

WiS IV - Werewolf & Vampire.esp

anellento.esp

DeadlyDragons.esm

DeadlyDragonsCraft.esp

DeadlyDragonsNormal.esp

JebediahCompanion.esp

lordamor.esp

MoreRainHeavyandDarker.esp

Polymorph.esp

Sanc Castle.esp

Spiritrealmhouse.esp

VampireDaywalker.esp

WDalpha.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHair.esp

armor_eisen.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

blood coins 1r-2c.esp

blood coins 2hr-1c.esp

blood coins 5r-10c.esp

blood coins insane.esp

blood coins normal.esp

blood coins slow.esp

DaedricCrownCraftable.esp

darksiders_chaoseater.esp

darksiders_scythe.esp

darksiders_uriel.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

DragonCrownCraftable.esp

DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp

EbonyCrownCraftable.esp

ElvenCrownCraftable.esp

FollowerWander.esp

Frostmourne 1.0.1.esp

Glacial_Stronghold.esp

GlassCrownCraftable.esp

InfernoStormShout.esp

LFArmors.esp

Pupetteer Master.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

Vampire drain.esp

WiS IV - Dark Age.esp

Power of Dominance.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

Vesper Sanctuary.esp

Cloaks.esp

Deus Mons.esm

Deus Mons.esp

female mannequins in homes.esp

female mannequins.esp

follow.esp

Galcern Fortress.esp

HentaiVoidArmor.esp

KarliahArmor2.esp

Mystic.esp

Omegared99-Compilation.esp

R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp

RCRN Pure - Hybrid Shaders.esp

Sentinel's Peak.esp

SkyMoMod.esm

SkyMoMod_lists.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

Tales_of_Lycanthropy.esp

TrissArmorRetextured.esp

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

WiS IV - Armors & Blocks.esp

JSwords.esm

MECR_NightEye_DetectLife_Overhaul.esp

nightshade_armor.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

Realistic Lighting.esp

VampireInvisibleItemsFix.esp

WiS IV - Heroes & villains.esp

CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

Dynavision.esp

Hypothermia.esp

IMCN - Overrides.esp

Imp's More Complex Needs.esm

Vampire Citidel.esp

VampireEffectProject.esp

HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp

The Dance of Death.esp

WATER - Get Wet.esp

WATER.esp

AP Skyrim.esm

AP Skyrim.esp

SkyMoMod Extras Conjuration.esp

dovahkiinrelax.esp

GreenWaterFix.esp

moonpath.esm

moonpath_questdata.esp

Angelic_Demonic.esp

ARTOFMAGIC.esp

BlackTowerArmory.esm

BlackTowerUpdate.esp

daedric_phelm.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp

FS_AngelsInSkyrim.esp

Furbag.esp

Gizmodian Silver Swords.esp

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

Masters of Death.esp

Moria.esp

Neo's Oriental Dress.esp

Northborn Fur Hoods.esp

Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

People Have Torches.esp

Ranger's Cape.esp

Remodeled Armor.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer.esp

Better Vampires.esp

dragoncurse_alpha_1.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

Killable Children.esp

Natural Skyrim Rain.esp

Nicoroshi Creations.esp