[LE] Anyway to determine incoming damage from a hit?

[davethepak]

So, I think I can understand the Onhit event, but I can't seem to determine a way to figure out how much damage was taken from the hit.

 

I am working on a mod where I need to know the amount of damage the player takes from combat activities.

 

 

I was thinking maybe compare health actorvalue before and after the hit, but I am not sure how to get it right before the hit?

(they could have healed since the last hit, etc.).

 

Any suggestions?

 

thanks in advance.

[Elias555]

There's a mana shield mod that will help you since it needs to constantly get the new damage amount taken and quickly convert it to magicka damage.

As for right before the hit, not sure. Maybe you'll need to send an update OnHit and store the amount somewhere. I think you'll also have to constantly send updates due to passive health regen.

Why do you need to know the amount of damage taken?

[davethepak]

Thank you for your reply.

 

What am I doing?

 

Short version;

 

I have a custom skill that gets increased as you take damage.

 

Long version:

 

I am working on a revised version of the mod "way of the monk" an amazing mod, that unfortunately the mod author had left many years ago.

 

He left it up to others to tweak and finish the work, and I am revising it, adding mcm support, and fixing many of the bugs.

One of the things it includes is a "unarmored skill" - which is basically an armor skill for cloth users (has its own perks, etc.)

One thing the mod author was never able to do, was have his skill contribute to actual skyrim character levels.

 

I have figured out how to do this (he did not have access to skse functions back then). I have figured out to have his skills give actual character xp.

 

Now, I am reviewing, for the sake of balance how his skills increase - and even he admitted they increase too quickly.

(he detected a hit, and you got skill xp. but it was kind of a set value, and a bit too generous).

 

I am writing in an option to have the unarmored skill raise similar to the other skills (including their xp offset and exponent rules). But to do so, I need to know how much damage a character takes when they get hit - as this is how the light armor, and heavy armor skills raise.

(for example, for your light armor skill to raise from 15 to 16 takes a little more than 200 points of damage - I am using the leveling formula and variables found here; http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveling )

 

Thus.....I am trying to figure out how to calculate incoming damage. it does not have to be perfect - it just has to be an improvement.

[Elias555]

 

I have a custom skill that gets increased as you take damage.

Why not just have a global variable than increases OnHit? From their you can manipulate the skill based on the global.

[davethepak]

 

 

I have a custom skill that gets increased as you take damage.

Why not just have a global variable than increases OnHit? From their you can manipulate the skill based on the global.

 

 

I am sorry, I don't understand what this means - perhaps my long winded explanation is the problem.

 

I don't have a problem with how MANY times I have been hit - I am having a problem determining the AMOUNT of damage taken with each hit.

 

I need the incoming damage amount. Perhaps I still don't understand (there is a strong chance of that - my modding skills are still in their infancy).

 

oh, and as a side note - your smoke and shadow mods are very cool. :)

[Elias555]

 

 

 

I have a custom skill that gets increased as you take damage.

Why not just have a global variable than increases OnHit? From their you can manipulate the skill based on the global.

 

 

I am sorry, I don't understand what this means - perhaps my long winded explanation is the problem.

 

I don't have a problem with how MANY times I have been hit - I am having a problem determining the AMOUNT of damage taken with each hit.

 

I need the incoming damage amount. Perhaps I still don't understand (there is a strong chance of that - my modding skills are still in their infancy).

 

oh, and as a side note - your smoke and shadow mods are very cool. :smile:

 

I was just giving an alternative to the method I mentioned earlier. Constantly registering OnHit and updates are heavy in terms of scripting.

Did you try to reverse engineer the mana shield mod or follow the scripting ideas?

Thanks for the praise!

[davethepak]

I did look at the mana shield mod (again, THANK YOU for the idea).

 

Basically it keeps track of current health by registering an event which fires every half second.

 

Then, if you get hit, it compares your current health with the most recent measurement, to determine a delta.

 

This looks simple, but I am a bit ignorant if an event every .5 seconds is a drain on resources (I think it is, but don't know for sure).

Here is the relevant code snippet.

function OnEffectStart(Actor akTarget, Actor akCaster)

	Float CurrentHP = game.GetPlayer().GetAV("Health")
	CeilingHP = CurrentHP
	self.Register()
endFunction

function OnUpdate()

	Float HP = game.GetPlayer().GetAV("Health")
	if HP >= CeilingHP
		CeilingHP = HP
	elseIf HP < CeilingHP
		Float Dmg = CeilingHP - HP
		Float mDmg = (CeilingHP - HP) * 0.670000
		game.GetPlayer().RestoreAV("Health", Dmg)
		game.GetPlayer().DamageAV("Magicka", mDmg)
		Float MP = game.GetPlayer().GetAV("Magicka")
		if MP <= 0 as Float
			self.Dispel()
		endIf
	endIf
endFunction



function Register()

	self.RegisterForUpdate(0.500000)
endFunction

I am going to see if I can work out some kind of formula that gives an approximation, without having a lot of scripts.

 

thank you again for your insights. I am still kind of surprised there is not a function (even a skse one) for incoming damage.

 

Sigh....

[Elias555]

What about the perk entry points(mod incoming damage)? I haven't played around with them but maybe they can give feedback somehow.

[davethepak]

Thanks again for

 

What about the perk entry points(mod incoming damage)? I haven't played around with them but maybe they can give feedback somehow.

Thanks again for your response.

 

I have played with those, but am not sure about a report back mechanism. I will look into it.

 

I think the checking for damage periodically may be the best method - but I have concerns about something that fires every second or so.

I don't want to slow the game down, or cause any performance issues - and I am very new to modding (learning as fast as I can!) so not sure about the best way.

 

I went ahead and created a separate topic for in the forums for tracking incoming player hits - as to not get his one too far off track.

 

thanks again for ideas.

Edited April 16, 2018 by davethepak

[FrankFamily]

Checking every second or half second isn't necessarily terrible, just minimize what runs in every iteration, don't run unnecessary code. If you make something like the script you posted then most of the time it's just going to run getav and compare and set a variable, I'd say that's lightweight. Consider the frequency, perhaps a full second is enough. Also, as far as I know is better to do a loop with registerforsingle update being called at the end of OnUpdate than registerforupdate, or so I've read.

Edited April 16, 2018 by FrankFamily