Am I the only one who feels this way ??

[Stemin]

I get your feeling, It's a shame that people overlook top quality mods such as, as you say, quest mods, dungeon mods, and gameplay enhancements in favour of the mod types you mentioned. What I find the most agitating is the frequency with which Peverted Mods, character enhancements and other peripheral crap is featured on the hot list. I know this is slightly off topic but I sometimes hesitate to call myself a gamer lest I be stereotyped as a pevert, who spends his days looking at animated cleavage. And the lore breaking mods? Don't even get me started!

 

OMG yes! I was starting to wonder if I was the only one who felt this way. Don't get me wrong, I love looking at an attractive female, but not so much that I need to spend hours with it in my video game.

 

I was reading the CBBBE vs. UNP (don't even know what UNP is, haven't found the actual mod, just compatible mods on nexus) thread and there were people critiquing the fine points of the female body in the thread and judging which was more realistic? Realistic? I don't think I've seen more than 5 women in my life that looked like that, and that was only in pictures. Maybe the ones that walk out of the plastic surgeon's office. It's kinda appalling on some level.

 

To be honest, it's all fueled by that MMOXREVIEW guy on YouTube who is, although a good review obsessed with lighting and armour/weapon mods and, of course, perverted mods!

 

I know exactly who you are talking about and at first I thought his videos were cool, but after a while just listening to his nasally voice and constant strings of new age slang it's really getting old. It became obvious after a few videos that he didn't ever really PLAY skyrim, he just did the modding thing. Because he didn't even know what mammoth cheese was, or how there was flammable liquid in the game. I'm not even sure how he even started in this genre, because he didn't know what Slave Leia was, and couldn't pronounce Wyrm properly. (although he regularly butchers pronunciation)

 

The production quality of his videos is excellent and its nice to see new mods in videos, but his voice is horrible and his selection questionable.

 

It also became obvious that he's going to cater to these same peripheral mods that you're mentioning.. armors, player homes... what I call useless junk. I don't know why people need a huge player home with 1000 containers and mannequins, etc. All of these things seem cool at first, but they get old after the first several hours and then at that point I would get tired of navigating through 17 rooms to find my chest where I left my ironhand gauntlets.

 

I remember in one episode, he was so busy covering all these garbage mods that he hardly had a blurb about the Elswyr mod that he kept showing in the background. I was thinking.. man that place has so much cool stuff, the whole video should be about it!

 

Unfortunately... I started out with the PS3 version of Skyrim and only recently got the PC version to work (had to upgrade my video card :( ) so I spent a lot of time on a certain PS3 board and this is the same stuff they cater to all the time. Whenever someone posts a topic about what they want in a DLC, you can bet you're going to see a whole slew of stuff from the D.I.C.E. video, and a bunch of requests for mods and console commands.

 

I just don't get it. Mods to me are very overrated because the quality ones are so hard to find. I'm not saying there aren't some talented artists out there making some awesome armors, but if all I have to do is go get them out of a chest in Solitude, I'm gonna get real bored with that, real quick. The D.I.C.E. stuff was flashy, but I couldn't see too many of things things holding my attention for more than an hour or two.

 

I guess it's just all part of this instant gratification lifestyle that's becoming more prominent where you grab the newest flashy thing and move on to the next.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Stemin

[flobalob]

I just don't get it. Mods to me are very overrated because the quality ones are so hard to find. I'm not saying there aren't some talented artists out there making some awesome armors, but if all I have to do is go get them out of a chest in Solitude, I'm gonna get real bored with that, real quick. The D.I.C.E. stuff was flashy, but I couldn't see too many of things things holding my attention for more than an hour or two.

 

I guess it's just all part of this instant gratification lifestyle that's becoming more prominent where you grab the newest flashy thing and move on to the next.

 

I get where you are coming from, however the simple fact is that the more complicated scenarios for obtaining stuff is only recently hitting the Nexus (or Steam for that matter) as making the kind of mods that require the player to complete a quest take considerably longer to create, and we are all still learning the pecularities of the Creation Kit.

Edited April 27, 2012 by flobalob

[Stemin]

 

I get where you are coming from, however the simple fact is that the more complicated scenarios for obtaining stuff is only recently hitting the Nexus (or Steam for that matter) as making the kind of mods that require the player to complete a quest take considerably longer to create, and we are all still learning the pecularities of the Creation Kit.

 

That's not what I'm getting at... the point I was making is the majority of the players don't even seem to WANT dungeon mods or expansions, or whatever you want to call these extra quests. And it boggles my mind.

[TheDarkPrince]

 

I get where you are coming from, however the simple fact is that the more complicated scenarios for obtaining stuff is only recently hitting the Nexus (or Steam for that matter) as making the kind of mods that require the player to complete a quest take considerably longer to create, and we are all still learning the pecularities of the Creation Kit.

 

That's not what I'm getting at... the point I was making is the majority of the players don't even seem to WANT dungeon mods or expansions, or whatever you want to call these extra quests. And it boggles my mind.

 

Welcome to the game where you choose MASTER and it feels like playing at novice level with Morrowind. Hurray! :D Yes, players today are like kids, they just want the thing and after having it its time to move on. Know what, from my best gaming times (those of Gothic 1,2,3, Morrowind, Daggerfall, Neverwinter nights 1,2, Diablo, Sacred) I remember names, characters and NPCs that I learnt phase by phase with the game. After 8 years without playing GOTHIC 1 I am f***in able to rebuild the place "as is" with my mod, know why? BECAUSE I LOVED IT, I REALLY PLAYED IT!

What about Skyrim? Even tho it's one of the most beautiful games out there and one of those I've waited for long with all of you, well, I can't seem to like any chars, and no chars in my heart for now means that the game is not that good as I had hoped.

 

Let's talk about it. JIUB, f*** yeah, that guy stayed on the scene for like, what, 10 seconds? He made the MW game more glorious than Ulfric and Tullius together.

 

My 2 cents, flame on me if you like.

[scrivener07]

Where are all the gameplay mods? I never see any on the front page. Is there like a best in category area

[Stemin]

Welcome to the game where you choose MASTER and it feels like playing at novice level with Morrowind.

 

I think they should have made more disparity between the levels. Master should have been tougher for players who want that. But not everyone wants to play like that. Games are supposed to be entertaining at the core. That's the bottom line. Not everyone is entertained by spending hours in one area, trying to learn complex button mashing, or restarting over and over again til they notice a pattern or get passed a certain guy.

 

Hurray! :D Yes, players today are like kids, they just want the thing and after having it its time to move on. Know what, from my best gaming times (those of Gothic 1,2,3, Morrowind, Daggerfall, Neverwinter nights 1,2, Diablo, Sacred) I remember names, characters and NPCs that I learnt phase by phase with the game. After 8 years without playing GOTHIC 1 I am f***in able to rebuild the place "as is" with my mod, know why? BECAUSE I LOVED IT, I REALLY PLAYED IT!

What about Skyrim? Even tho it's one of the most beautiful games out there and one of those I've waited for long with all of you, well, I can't seem to like any chars, and no chars in my heart for now means that the game is not that good as I had hoped.

 

Let's talk about it. JIUB, f*** yeah, that guy stayed on the scene for like, what, 10 seconds? He made the MW game more glorious than Ulfric and Tullius together.

 

My 2 cents, flame on me if you like.

 

<shrug> The flip side of that is nostalgia has a way of clouding your judgement. I can't tell you how many guys have told me how great they think Oblivion is and how the gameplay was better than skyrim, but I have made multiple attempts to play the game and I can't get into it. It just seems like one big open, EMPTY, world and very little makes sense to me. The menus are far clunkier than Skyrim.

 

I can't help but wonder if these same people would feel the same if they'd played Skyrim first, because to me it's an improvement in every way.

 

If you're not relating to the characters in skyrim, then I can see your POV, but again.. that's your style. I don't need to relate because for me it's all about my character and what he's doing. Don't get me wrong, I wish there were some more interesting characters. I can't believe out of 70+ voice actors I have to listen to Stephen Russell's voice come out of every other male character's voice. The guy can't voice act to save his life. Want voice acting? Look up the voices the guy that does Septimus's voice. THAT guy is talented.

[bben46]

I think some of you are missing the entire concept of 'hot files' Hot files are those that get the most downloads, NOT the ones you like. If a file gets a lot of downloads it becomes a 'hot file' no matter if you approve or not. :ermm:

[TheDarkPrince]

I think some of you are missing the entire concept of 'hot files' Hot files are those that get the most downloads, NOT the ones you like. If a file gets a lot of downloads it becomes a 'hot file' no matter if you approve or not. :ermm:

 

Indeed, but the point, at least for my POV is that the hot files of this last few months are all the same things with just small differences, ALWAYS. Enb1 is red, than day later Enb2 is more yellow.. Cmon.. Turning TES games into a disco, lol.

[scrivener07]

Well, shameless plug for my own mod.

 

The above is video of a prototype though fully functional. As a prototype I did totally scrap it and start over to be sure the mod is clean and runs perfect. Ive also be prototyping other features for this mod by creating a working proof of concept > documenting the creation process > scraping the proof of concept > implementing into core mod > testing > bug fixes > rinse and repeat

 

As you can see this is very time consuming and Im sure other modders follow a similar work flow. People are working on cool game changing mods and they will be popular on the hot files section. These things take time especially if the author cares about quality. Give it time, the sites will mature.

[eschaeon]

 

<shrug> The flip side of that is nostalgia has a way of clouding your judgement. I can't tell you how many guys have told me how great they think Oblivion is and how the gameplay was better than skyrim, but I have made multiple attempts to play the game and I can't get into it. It just seems like one big open, EMPTY, world and very little makes sense to me. The menus are far clunkier than Skyrim.

 

I can't help but wonder if these same people would feel the same if they'd played Skyrim first, because to me it's an improvement in every way.

 

If you're not relating to the characters in skyrim, then I can see your POV, but again.. that's your style. I don't need to relate because for me it's all about my character and what he's doing. Don't get me wrong, I wish there were some more interesting characters. I can't believe out of 70+ voice actors I have to listen to Stephen Russell's voice come out of every other male character's voice. The guy can't voice act to save his life. Want voice acting? Look up the voices the guy that does Septimus's voice. THAT guy is talented.

 

Oblivion has it's perks (lol) over Skyrim, for sure though. I still personally *hate* the default Skyrim Menus. Oblivion had them much faster to navigate with condensed information. That and being able to preview your appearance without exiting menu and switching to 3rd person view. Also Oblivion had much better Guild quests. Or at least, more varied. Guild quests in Skyrim were extremely short and disappointing. Downsides? The open world is boring and the main quest line is yawn inducing with drab, redundant Oblivion zones. Combat is better in Skyrim but not by much (Same basic stuff, just more interesting dual wielding things).

 

Still I agree it would be hard to try Oblivion after playing Skyrim first. Still I highly suggest at least trying the Guild quests and such. They are a lot of fun.