gunnerstrip7 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I've been trying to fix this problem myself for a little while. What happens is, I can start a new game just fine, create a character, do the usual, but then when I go to reload the save(even if I haven't made any changes to it) the game just closes. No error message, no warning, it just goes back to desktop. I think the only clue I have is that I get a warning in french(I've never installed anything french) about PlayerVampireQuest conflicting with something. Beyond that, I've tried uninstalling texture mods, and other mods, but it doesn't seem to change anything. I'm at a real loss, so any help would be appreciated. Here's my load order: Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1BSAssets.esm=1LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm=1BSHeartland.esm=1arnima.esm=1RSkyrimChildren.esm=1BS_DLC_patch.esp=1Campfire.esm=1Falskaar.esm=1MagicDuelReborn.esm=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1FNIS.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1XPMSE.esp=1SGEyebrows.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1RLO - Interiors.esp=1Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1iNeed.esp=1iNeed - Extended.esp=1RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp=1RSChildren.esp=1Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp=1Vivid Weathers SE - SOS Patch.esp=0Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1SkyUI_SE.esp=1RLO - Effects.esp=1RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=1Footprints.esp=1Bijin Wives.esp=1Bijin NPCs.esp=1VioLens SE.esp=1dovahkiinrelax.esp=1CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp=1Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1Realistic-Voice.esp=1MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp=1Runandwalkpaces.esp=1YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp=1YOT - iNeed.esp=13DNPC.esp=1WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp=1Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp=1marriagemod - alpha v3.esp=1Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp=1Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1RLO - Exteriors.esp=1OBIS SE.esp=1OpulentThievesGuild.esp=1MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1Undeath.esp=1Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1Mortal Enemies.esp=1Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1OwnCivilWar.esp=1Holidays.esp=1Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1Joy of Perspective.esp=1EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1Immersive Music.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Hunterborn.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1SofiaFollower.esp=1Tools of Kagrenac.esp=1CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1Darkend.esp=1notice board.esp=1ForgottenCity.esp=1ThievesGuildLadder.esp=1ExpandedCarriageService.esp=1ApotheosisDemo.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1Shadowmarks.esp=1Ravengate.esp=1Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp=1Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1moonpath.esp=1OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp=1Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp=1RLO - CRF Patch.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp=1Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp=1Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1YOT - Frostfall Module.esp=1YOT - Hunterborn.esp=1YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp=1BecomeABard.esp=1Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp=1HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp=1TradeBarterLite.esp=1Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1MLU.esp=1My Home Is Your Home.esp=1Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1FlowerGirls SE.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1CFTO.esp=1SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1Blowing in the Wind - Open Cities Skyrim Patch SSE.esp=1RLO - IC Patch.esp=1CFTO-Lanterns.esp=1CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just guessing: Are you running the latest version of XPMSSE skeleton (4.31)? There currently seems to be some sort of conflict between this skeleton and parts of the alpha version of Racemenu for SE (which unfortunately are required to make the skeleton work....). At the moment Racemenu Alpha and XPMSSE don't seem to work together very well, which can results in crashes when trying to load a save. The probability of corrupted saves like these increases, the longer you play. At least that's what I experienced. Easiest solution ATM: Go back to the previous version of XPMSSE (4.20) and - if possible - to a save game before installing XPMSSE 4.31, until this is sorted out. Apart from that: With a large loader like yours, you definitely NEED a bashed patch... ^^ And you got a lot of script heavy stuff installed - which may cause issues, too.,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted3897072User Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 If you have installed SKEE Alpha 6 (possibly as part of another package) that may be the cause. There is a known bug in it. A clue is if the .skse save file has become bloated (more than a few kB). If so, one way to get you game back is to delete skee.dll from your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder, load the game (it won't crash), save again immediately then restore skee.dll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerstrip7 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/26/2018 at 4:23 PM, Algabar said: Just guessing: Are you running the latest version of XPMSSE skeleton (4.31)? There currently seems to be some sort of conflict between this skeleton and parts of the alpha version of Racemenu for SE (which unfortunately are required to make the skeleton work....). At the moment Racemenu Alpha and XPMSSE don't seem to work together very well, which can results in crashes when trying to load a save. The probability of corrupted saves like these increases, the longer you play. At least that's what I experienced. Easiest solution ATM: Go back to the previous version of XPMSSE (4.20) and - if possible - to a save game before installing XPMSSE 4.31, until this is sorted out. Apart from that: With a large loader like yours, you definitely NEED a bashed patch... ^^ And you got a lot of script heavy stuff installed - which may cause issues, too.,..I was, and I did at your suggestion, and it worked! Created a bash patch and downloaded the old version. Saving and loading has worked a few times now, I don't know if at some point it'll break again, but it seems to be working, so thanks! I'd never really used Wyre Bash before, I never thought I needed it, and I'd of had no way of knowing XPMSE was causing the trouble if you didn't mention it. On 4/26/2018 at 5:16 PM, OldMansBeard said: If you have installed SKEE Alpha 6 (possibly as part of another package) that may be the cause. There is a known bug in it. A clue is if the .skse save file has become bloated (more than a few kB). If so, one way to get you game back is to delete skee.dll from your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder, load the game (it won't crash), save again immediately then restore skee.dll.I'll have to keep this in mind if it comes back, I do have SKEE Alpha 6 so there's a chance that might cause trouble down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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