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I've been trying to fix this problem myself for a little while. What happens is, I can start a new game just fine, create a character, do the usual, but then when I go to reload the save(even if I haven't made any changes to it) the game just closes. No error message, no warning, it just goes back to desktop.

 

I think the only clue I have is that I get a warning in french(I've never installed anything french) about PlayerVampireQuest conflicting with something. Beyond that, I've tried uninstalling texture mods, and other mods, but it doesn't seem to change anything. I'm at a real loss, so any help would be appreciated.

 

Here's my load order:

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
BSAssets.esm=1
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
arnima.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
Campfire.esm=1
Falskaar.esm=1
MagicDuelReborn.esm=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SGEyebrows.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1
RLO - Interiors.esp=1
Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1
iNeed.esp=1
iNeed - Extended.esp=1
RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp=1
RSChildren.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - SOS Patch.esp=0
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
RLO - Effects.esp=1
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
Bijin NPCs.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
dovahkiinrelax.esp=1
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp=1
CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp=1
CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp=1
Character Creation Overhaul.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
Realistic-Voice.esp=1
MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp=1
Runandwalkpaces.esp=1
YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp=1
YOT - iNeed.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp=1
WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp=1
Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp=1
marriagemod - alpha v3.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
RLO - Exteriors.esp=1
OBIS SE.esp=1
OpulentThievesGuild.esp=1
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1
Undeath.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
Mortal Enemies.esp=1
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1
OwnCivilWar.esp=1
Holidays.esp=1
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
Joy of Perspective.esp=1
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1
Immersive Music.esp=1
Inigo.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
Hunterborn.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
SofiaFollower.esp=1
Tools of Kagrenac.esp=1
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp=1
Darkend.esp=1
notice board.esp=1
ForgottenCity.esp=1
ThievesGuildLadder.esp=1
ExpandedCarriageService.esp=1
ApotheosisDemo.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Shadowmarks.esp=1
Ravengate.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp=1
Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1
moonpath.esp=1
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp=1
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp=1
RLO - CRF Patch.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1
Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp=1
Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp=1
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1
YOT - Frostfall Module.esp=1
YOT - Hunterborn.esp=1
YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp=1
BecomeABard.esp=1
Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1
Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp=1
HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp=1
TradeBarterLite.esp=1
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1
MLU.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
FlowerGirls SE.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Open Cities Skyrim Patch SSE.esp=1
RLO - IC Patch.esp=1
CFTO-Lanterns.esp=1
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp=1

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Just guessing: Are you running the latest version of XPMSSE skeleton (4.31)? There currently seems to be some sort of conflict between this skeleton and parts of the alpha version of Racemenu for SE (which unfortunately are required to make the skeleton work....).

 

At the moment Racemenu Alpha and XPMSSE don't seem to work together very well, which can results in crashes when trying to load a save. The probability of corrupted saves like these increases, the longer you play. At least that's what I experienced. Easiest solution ATM: Go back to the previous version of XPMSSE (4.20) and - if possible - to a save game before installing XPMSSE 4.31, until this is sorted out.

 

Apart from that: With a large loader like yours, you definitely NEED a bashed patch... ^^ And you got a lot of script heavy stuff installed - which may cause issues, too.,..

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If you have installed SKEE Alpha 6 (possibly as part of another package) that may be the cause. There is a known bug in it. A clue is if the .skse save file has become bloated (more than a few kB). If so, one way to get you game back is to delete skee.dll from your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder, load the game (it won't crash), save again immediately then restore skee.dll.

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  On 4/26/2018 at 4:23 PM, Algabar said:

Just guessing: Are you running the latest version of XPMSSE skeleton (4.31)? There currently seems to be some sort of conflict between this skeleton and parts of the alpha version of Racemenu for SE (which unfortunately are required to make the skeleton work....).

 

At the moment Racemenu Alpha and XPMSSE don't seem to work together very well, which can results in crashes when trying to load a save. The probability of corrupted saves like these increases, the longer you play. At least that's what I experienced. Easiest solution ATM: Go back to the previous version of XPMSSE (4.20) and - if possible - to a save game before installing XPMSSE 4.31, until this is sorted out.

 

Apart from that: With a large loader like yours, you definitely NEED a bashed patch... ^^ And you got a lot of script heavy stuff installed - which may cause issues, too.,..

I was, and I did at your suggestion, and it worked! Created a bash patch and downloaded the old version. Saving and loading has worked a few times now, I don't know if at some point it'll break again, but it seems to be working, so thanks! I'd never really used Wyre Bash before, I never thought I needed it, and I'd of had no way of knowing XPMSE was causing the trouble if you didn't mention it.

 

  On 4/26/2018 at 5:16 PM, OldMansBeard said:

If you have installed SKEE Alpha 6 (possibly as part of another package) that may be the cause. There is a known bug in it. A clue is if the .skse save file has become bloated (more than a few kB). If so, one way to get you game back is to delete skee.dll from your Data\SKSE\Plugins folder, load the game (it won't crash), save again immediately then restore skee.dll.

I'll have to keep this in mind if it comes back, I do have SKEE Alpha 6 so there's a chance that might cause trouble down the line.

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