CTD when looting or inventory?

[lordstormdragon]

Skyrim was running fine for me for many days; I have lots of mods and am using Nexus Mod Manager and BOSS, as well as SKSE.

 

Now it will crash (CTD) a few minutes into play, and it's always when I'm looting a corpse or container. I've updated all my mods that seem related, and am at a loss on how to proceed. I've tried using just BOSS and also manually tweaking my load order to no avail.

 

Any ideas? Here's my mod list, currently:

−Summary

 

Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r4314; Apr 28, 2012). No update necessary.

Recognised plugins: 66 Warning messages: 0

Unrecognised plugins: 28 Error messages: 0

Ghosted plugins: 0 Total number of messages: 4

Total number of plugins: 94

 

Plugins sorted by user rules are counted as recognised plugins.

−Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.4.8

CFM_extensions.dll

container_categorization_1_1.dll Version: 1.1.21.0

 

−Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

hideout.esm Active

Natural Characters and Companions.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

CMNewCompanions.esm Active

SkyrimURWL.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active

dragonsoulstoperks.esp Active

GM-ForgeAdditions.esp Active

KatixasRefillablePotions.esp Active

Speed booster.esp Active

TK_Clutter_Plants.esp Active

AutomaticItemStorage.esp Active

PlayerHomeMapMarkers.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp Active

1nivWICCloaks.esp Active

DandelionArmor.esp Active

Darklilith.esp Active

Demothris.esp

DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp Active

Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp Active

Dreadweave Axes.esp Active

Field Mage Outfit.esp Active

Guild Duelist Armor.esp Active

Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp Active

HentaiGaleArmor.esp Active

HentaiMaxiArmor.esp Active

HentaiNightmareArmor.esp Active

HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp Active

HentaiVoidArmor.esp Active

HentaisJamellaArmor.esp Active

KarliahArmor2.esp Active

LayerBikini.esp Active

Noble_Artifacts_For_Skyrim_Eng.esp Active

Noble_Artifacts_For_Skyrim_Rus.esp

Nicoroshi Creations.esp Active

R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp Active

R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp Active

Raven Set v1.4.esp Active

Remodeled Armor.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active

The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp Active

Reweighed Potions.esp Active

GM-Smelting.esp Active

GM-Tanning.esp Active

LFox Vendors Have Arrows.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp Active

AlchemyOrganization.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks.esp Active

ApachiiHairStyles.esp Active

ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp Active

LovelyHairstyles.esp Active

Essential followers - all followers.esp Active

BrelynaMaryon.esp Active

CMNewCompanions.esp Active

HirelingJenassa.esp Active

Natural Characters and Companions.esp Active

Better Followers - BP.esp Active

Requires: Better Followers - Armor Pack I & II, download it on BF page.

Note: Use only one Better Followers - *.esp

Better NPC - Faction Pack.esp Active

BDO.esp Active

Incompatible with: Better Followers - Dialogue, Ask Follower Skills, Followers can Relax, CM's Level your Followers Skills, Mounted Followers -- included in BDO

Follower Limit Increased.esp Active

 

−Unrecognised Plugins

 

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

 

Lighting.esm Active

Caellon.esm Active

EASharwynE_1_0.esm Active

Lighting.esp Active

Onedoor.esp Active

Diverse Faction Gear.esp Active

Food & Drinks Reworked.esp Active

magicrunes5.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_DualAttack.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_DualPowerAttack.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_LeftHand.esp Active

.Armitage's Mastercraft (ENG).esp Active

UNPArmoredBikini.esp Active

Dual Wield for Followers.esp Active

Killmove Control.esp Active

UndyingCompanions.esp Active

SlowFall.esp Active

Darkwindv1.esp Active

SchoolgirlOutfit.esp Active

Night Eye Ring.esp Active

ElisaBrea.esp Active

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp Active

Gatti5Annelotte.esp Active

Gatti7Siggy.esp Active

Caellon.esp Active

Old Kingdom Defenders.esp

EASharwynE_1_0.esp Active

amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp Active

[etang2]

What's your rig like?

[lordstormdragon]

What's your rig like?

 

I'm running a Phenom X4 9850BE, at 2.5GHz, with 6GB of RAM and a 1GB GTS250 video card. My graphics settings are pretty low still, as I just upgraded my CPU from an Athlon X2 @ 2.4GHz and haven't changed any graphics quality settings.

 

My CPU is at 54° when Skyrim CTDs, and my GPU is always less than 55° during these crashes as well. Running the Athlon X2, my GPU would heat up to 81° and crash Skyrim, but heat isn't the case with the newer CPU involved.

[lordstormdragon]

I have disabled all my companion-related mods and dismissed them all to try and narrow it down. I also reverted to Categorized Favorites 1.1_1, as I'm still using SKSE 1.48 evidently. SkyUI 2.2, and no warnings inside of Skyrim suggesting that SkyUI and SKSE aren't behaving together.

 

Rolling solo, Skyrim stays up much longer, but still CTDs and it's always when I'm playing with inventory panels looting corpses and containers...

[etang2]

OKay, i'm going to school, but I'm pretty sure I know how to fix it, i'll walk you through when I get home in 6 hours :D

 

 

Untill then, Stay Frosty :D

[gremlinator]

You might have removed a mod, and have items in loot-boxes or corpses that are leftover and cause the game to crash? It seems like a long shot though.

[etang2]

That may be it but believe me, it took me ages to figure this out, I have extensive experience regarding CTD and AppHangb1

Okay, here we go!

Firstly, your pluggins.

For you rig, you are running waaaay too many pluggins and in addition to that, a large number are graphical alters. A big no no unless your hooked up to a gaming pc. What happens is that each pluggin is loaded into the RAM and then, depending on your setup, your VM will process the information. Initially, the VM will be dealing with roughly 10 BSA files and 2 ESM files, the vanilla files. These are extremely safe as they are DESIGNED to be intergrated seamlessly into the game. Mods however are an entirelly different story. Take for example, Static Improvement (A big bad one, its changes 1000's of TEXTURES! massive resource hogger!), it alters meshes and textures, that alone on some pc's may use up all of the computers resource, on a lower end pc. 1g dedicated is good, but to run ALL of those Graphic mods, you'd be looking at needing 4-5gb, depending on your actual VIs settings.

 

Secondly, Your actual pc.

It took me ages to learn this but, a pc always has limits. That means you may be ultimately limitied to the amount of modds you can safetly install. Yes, that means you have to remove some. Start by removing the ones that you don't particularally like and don't really need or have little or none impact in game. Additionally, some mdos may perform precisely the same task as others, therfore, you are able to make easy descions. Second, remove the mods that are buggy in game, may have incorrect names, but meshes etc. On a programming level, CTD is caused by really bad scripting errors messing with the VM! Removing those may help free resources and stop CTD and lag/stuttering.

 

Also, there are some really great skyrim.ini papyrus edits you can perform that can boost both performance AND stability, try these out, they may helpp.

 

If you need more information regarding these edits, I am available to quickly jot down how to perform them, untill then, I hope this short guide has helped!

 

 

Stay Frosty!

[lordstormdragon]

Good stuff to know! I'm pretty aware of graphical limits, being a Maya modeler/texturer/renderer by trade. I must beg to disagree except for the part regarding the texture memory size. 1GB is enough for my mods, however only just. There's a lot of swapping going on, fortunately the 9850BE CPU can handle it very well.

 

I solved my problem outright by launching Skyrim regularly instead of with SKSE_loader. Been playing for hours now with no CTDs, finally!

 

So something's wrong with my SKSE installation/version, but since everything is now working flawlessly I'm not really worried about it for now.

 

100 mods is not too many to run on this computer, my friend... Just gotta know your mods and when necessary, rework your textures down to 1024x1024 if things get hairball!

[etang2]

True, i had the mod problem because I was running mods that were looping regually and they were absolutely killing the VM! do any of you mods require SKSE?

[Vayeate]

Hmm, so its possibly SKSE that's causing this?

 

I had about 250+ plugins going with no CTD from looting, or any problems really. It just kinda started happening all of a sudden. I thought it was a mod conflict, so I uninstalled the mods I had downloaded recently, as the CTD started happening only a couple days ago. Still crashed when I looted chests/bodies though. So I uninstalled all my mods, did a clean install of skyrim (stupidly I forgot to check if the CTD problem was still there in vanilla, but I doubt it) and then re-installed a cut down version of my list of mods (144 plugins now).

 

 

Okay, I tried running it without SKSE, and it took longer, but I still eventually CTD'd when looting. I'm just not sure what the cause of this is. I have no idea what's going on.