tls2death2 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Let me start with an explanation of my problem, followed by my PC specs and my load/omod list so that you guys will have an understanding of what I'm looking at.I have ran Oblivion @ 1680x1050 with nearly all of the sliders maxed out (except item draw because I really don't need to see items from halfway across the world), HDR, and no AA/AF enabled. I had no problems whatsoever running around outdoors (I'm not sure what the FPS was, I didn't find out about the console command tdt until recently) and indoors was relatively breezy as well. Having had my game crash (due to my stupidity installing multiple mods without testing them prior) and getting reinstalled, I've started experiencing periods of pretty dramatic FPS drops. The drop is most noticeable when entering Apachii's Goddess Store. Previously, I would only get a noticeable FPS drop upstairs when I would look in Hecate's direction, but now as soon as I enter the store I'm getting 2-6 FPS which is unbearable. I'm also experiencing periods of lag, like in front of the waterfront shack looking around, when I look towards the walls of the waterfront (towards the IC).I have defragmented, I have pared any applications/processes running in the background to the bare minimums, I have downloaded and installed Operation Optimizer, I have even tried reducing the resolution I play the game at to a non-widescreen resolution [something like 1280x900 or some such nonsense] and still the drop down to 2-6 FPS when I enter Apachii's store. I have downloaded but not installed quietfeet because I don't think sound is my problem (due to my sound not being onboard). I followed the TweakGuides .INI suggestions [AFTER the lag started, not prior to] and made some changes but they made no noticeable improvement. I tried searching through the forums but I can't seem to find anyone with an identical issue, most problems being older hardware. CPU: AMD X2 5200 2.6GHz (I have enabled the multi-threading utilization via the tweakguides .INI tutorial to try to pick performance up) [Temp 33C idle]Mobo: Asus M2N32 SLi DeluxeRAM: 2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 (PC 6400)Video: eVGA Geforce 9800 GTX 512MB @ 1680x1050 [Temp 63C idle]HDD1: WD 160gb 7200 @ 8mb cache [OS + Program drive]HDD2: WD 320gb 7200 @ 16mb cache [Media drive]HDD3: WD 320gb 7200 @ 16mb cache [Game backup/storage]Sound: Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer Installed mods (Exported OMOD report via OBMM):Oblivion.esmNatural Interiors.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espDLCShiveringIsles.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espArmoryLab.espgardening.espBeautiful People.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.espStockClothingArmor-forExnems.espMaleBodyReplacerV3.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espUnlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.espApachii_Goddess_Store.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espHarvest[Containers].espAliveWaters.espAliveWaters - Koi Addon.espAliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.espHouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.espImmersiveHealthIndication.espIlluminationWithin.espOonas_Outfitters.esppersonality_idles4.esptalkwithyourhands PI4.espReznod_Mannequin.espBlackLuster.espNightshade_Armor.espReznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].espLost Paladins of the Divines.espphinix-waterfix.espRhiannaII.espNo psychic guards v1.2.espSpeedy Disrobe OBSE.espArmoryLab better armory.espNatural Interiors - Cities.esp As an additional note, I tried disabling Natural Interiors (since I suspected that perhaps it was overwhelming but... that made no improvement) If I left anything crucial to troubleshooting out, please let me know and I'll post it ASAP. I also changed the pre-render option via Nvidia's Control Panel (from 3 to 2) and that made no visual improvement either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kon12 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 yea i had the same problem, the apachi store is a major FPS killer its the poly count on the clothes they wearweirdly enough, using a disrobe spell on the goddesses increased my FPSso give that a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls2death2 Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Thanks for the tip, however I'd prefer that they remain clothed =] I did see that it appears to be an issue with lighting, I went into Dzonot (sp?) cave and was attacked by the women in there who had some sort of lighting enchantment on them which dropped my framerate down pretty badly, much like in the Apachii store. I may pick up an additional 2gb of RAM and a 3.2ghz processor as well, still debating on that since it would be roughly $250.. I have SensorsView running which was monitoring my CPU/RAM usage while I was playing (as well as my temps) and my memory usage peaked around 100% so that's why I'm considering more RAM. However, I'd like to think that there is a technical reason, rather than a technological culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls2death2 Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 just ordered 2 additional gb of RAM, should be here by monday I suspect. Maybe that will help things along, if it doesn't, I'll get an AMD x2 6400.. if that doesn't help, there's another problem going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 If the problem is slow framerate due to too many polygons being on screen, for instance if doing what was suggested improves performance, then the only way to solve it would be upgrading your videocard. more system ram and faster processor won't help you in the slightest in this regard. You may even want to try changing some of the video options, like turning off window/water reflections, using simple shadows, or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulReaver911 Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 This is not right, with your computer specs oblivion should be running like a charm. First things first, what defragmenter program did you use? Hopefully not microsoft's. Plus, that's a top of the line graphics card you got in there, you can't really get a better one (maybe a second one but that's overkill.) Get Auslogic's Disk Defrag. It's free, and more importantly, it works. Check for viruses. For the love of Oblivion, check for viruses. And if it comes up with nothing, see if any other games are experiencing severe fps drops. If they are, it could be a Drivers issue. Make sure you got the lastest Nvidia drivers for that video card. If that doesn't help it could be the hardware. A quick check is to run a performance scan (if you are using vista.) If it shows no score for your video card, it might be either the drivers malfunctioning, or just a bad card (hopefully not.) I doubt the card is out of place though, or the game probably wouldn't play at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls2death2 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Thanks, I had some strong doubts that it was my video card since this isn't a consistent problem. Things seem to "burst" where it's smooth again (ie, I went through a short period where I was getting ~20 fps in Apachii's store and completely buttery outside ~40-60) but then it would bog back down, and I'm not running ANYTHING else [except spybot S&D]. In addition, changing my resolution (lower) made no positive impact, which leads me to believe it's not my video card. I've just downloaded that Auslogics defrag program and will give my system a scan with AVG to make sure there's nothing nefarious causing the problem. Oblivion is really the only game I play these days, so I can't really check against any others. My drivers are up to date so I'm not sure where else the issue could be coming from.I finished scanning with Auslogics and my drive was only .09% fragmented prior to running the scan. I'm going to run a copy of their boost speed software to see if that helps anything, although I suspect it's just a scam to try to get me to buy it [which I'm not going to do]. The program is having a field day with my "disk cleanup" so my suspicion that it's a HD issue may be validated. We'll see. I'm also considering offloading the game onto a HD that's not my OS drive since it's accessed for everything else, having it on a drive that doesn't see much activity could help. But I don't really want to do that since that means reinstalling all of the damn mods and that's a miserable process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls2death2 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 AVG found no viral threats, Spybot S&D found no threats. Auslogics' Disk Cleanup/Defrag both cleared things up a bit [some 5200 issues resolved with the cleanup, as noted above only .09% fragmented prior to running it]. I did check my drivers again and there was an update so I'm going to be updating my drivers shortly. I'll post if there's any resolution to the issue. Drivers updated to 175.19. I thought there was a noticeable change in the gameplay when I loaded my save everything was running smoothly with some occasional hiccups (equated to a 10fps drop). Once I got back to the waterfront, FPS death again resulted. I think it's my HD and I'm now very tempted to move the game to a lesser accessed/non-primary drive even though it would be a very lengthy process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls2death2 Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 I just installed the additional 2gb of ram that I bought, no help. I changed my lighting settings from HDR+Bloom to just HDR or just Bloom and no improvement. I disabled file indexing on the harddrive and there was a noticeable improvement. I may have found the culprit. I don't have time to do further testing, but I've got my fingers crossed that this is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls2death2 Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Problem still persistent, things ran beautifully in Dzonot cave even when the Amazon women started with their light/chameleon enchantments which gave me hope. Then I left the cave and it was back to FPS-rape. I don't vulking understand what the hell the problem is. This is seriously pissing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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