Sharkull Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Starting a new topic to prevent derailing another thread (the quote source).[aside]Sativarg:None of the books are called "Sword of Truth" (that's the name of the series). The quote (from its contents) sounds like it would be from the first one: Wizards First Rule.[/aside]this is an excerpt from a book I am listening to. The Sword of Truth, written by Terry Goodkind, is an epic series encompassing the stories of a diverse cast of characters. Each volume is self-contained, in that the primary conflicts of each novel aWell yes I knew that. But the excerpt I uploaded was the part of the story that inspired me and it was the first description of the sword itself thus the title I gave the file. The description above is about the series and is misleading, As I had said it was a book I was listening to, so I am sorry for my ambiguity. Do you know the wizards first rule? It might be considered a spoiler so I will not post it here. I am beginning to really enjoy this Book. I am also seeing in it some good words of wisdom. Listening is slow business. this book will take some time to finish then there is the next... I heard a rumor that Disney will be releasing this soon on TV?Yes, I'm very familiar with the books... I've read them all multiple times. To put it mildly, they've helped me consciously recognize the way I look at the world, validating a large part of my personality (!). Wisdom is scattered through the whole series... Richard's speeches especially make me think (a good thing). Goodkind is easily my favorite author. As for the first rule, have you read my signature? :whistling: :thumbsup: I had read mention of a mini-series based on the novels, but didn't know about it being Disney or it having been changed to a regular TV show, until looking into it today (thanks for the heads up). http://www.terrygoodkind.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=74:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sharkull Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Well, I haven't played Morrowind so I can't comment on the locations, but the SoT map reminds me more of Europe (New World) and Asia / Africa (Old World). The linked Morrowind map is an island... :unsure: I have no idea what your second post here is trying to say... religion has nothing to do with the SoT series (and is off-limits on the Nexus). The books have themes pertaining to cutting all the flowery phrases and getting to the rational truth, directly and clearly. Here's another quote from WFR for you:Truth is hard to sell; it gives no sense of purpose. It is simply truth.The truth is meant to be understood using the human faculty of reason, our primary tool of survival. When I see something presented appearing as an attempt to "inspire" belief, my first rule defensive instinct kicks in... I'm wary of believing something because I want to, instead of based on the plain, basic, rational merits of the subject matter. I prefer a direct approach to things instead of anything obscured behind a creative presentation. If you expect me to get anything out of what you're trying to communicate then you'll have to be more clear / direct.:) Note: I have no idea who / what "Shebulba" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sharkull Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 I don't know why you say Mother, Father... instead of the actual real english meaning familiar to everyone. Speaking your own language is not the way to communicate effectively. :confused: That being said, I did not see one point in your post here that pertains to any themes within Terry Goodkind's SoT series (a subject I'm very familiar with). I think I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't see much other than meaningless jibberish. Light, dark, quantum influences... sounds like you're struggling with the nature of consciousness. My advice: don't. There are no useful answers, only threats to sanity... especially when ego gets involved (like your posts suggest). Life is the standard of all values. You only get one. Don't waste it on meaningless pursuits. Wisdom is learned, but there are no limits to its growth. Gravity is a force bound by the objective laws of the natural world. The future is not knowable by humans. Human perception is limited to five senses. There is no such thing as perfect vision. Imagination is not a means of finding truth. Life is not a single entity, nor does it have a single consciousness, it is a phenomenon of matter and energy working in a biological machine (with possibly an extra unknown ingredient...). Humanity is not a single entity. Human beings are individual life forms with their own perspectives. Individual lives do not rely on truth, only reality. Nathan is not persecuted in the books. He is simply locked up for a crime that the Sisters fear he might commit because he has a certain ability. Their fear leads them to believe a lie: that Nathan is dangerous. Their guilt makes them treat him well (within his posh prison). Magic (in the books) is a metaphor... it is not real. To answer your PM,I have not read "Earths Children Series(Jean.M. Aul)". It sounds like you would enjoy Frank Herbert's "Dune" series (if you heven't read it). Oh, and my favorite meal is a nice thick grilled piece of Top Sirloin. Humanity may not have a full understanding of reality, but that doesn't mean that irrational fears are justified.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativarg Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I don't know why you say Mother, Father... instead of the actual real english meaning familiar to everyone. Speaking your own language is not the way to communicate effectively. :confused: That being said, I did not see one point in your post here that pertains to any themes within Terry Goodkind's SoT series (a subject I'm very familiar with). I think I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't see much other than meaningless jibberish. Light, dark, quantum influences... sounds like you're struggling with the nature of consciousness. My advice: don't. There are no useful answers, only threats to sanity... especially when ego gets involved (like your posts suggest). Life is the standard of all values. You only get one. Don't waste it on meaningless pursuits. Wisdom is learned, but there are no limits to its growth. Gravity is a force bound by the objective laws of the natural world. The future is not knowable by humans. Human perception is limited to five senses. There is no such thing as perfect vision. Imagination is not a means of finding truth. Life is not a single entity, nor does it have a single consciousness, it is a phenomenon of matter and energy working in a biological machine (with possibly an extra unknown ingredient...). Humanity is not a single entity. Human beings are individual life forms with their own perspectives. Individual lives do not rely on truth, only reality. Nathan is not persecuted in the books. He is simply locked up for a crime that the Sisters fear he might commit because he has a certain ability. Their fear leads them to believe a lie: that Nathan is dangerous. Their guilt makes them treat him well (within his posh prison). Magic (in the books) is a metaphor... it is not real. To answer your PM,I have not read "Earths Children Series(Jean.M. Aul)". It sounds like you would enjoy Frank Herbert's "Dune" series (if you heven't read it). Oh, and my favorite meal is a nice thick grilled piece of Top Sirloin. Humanity may not have a full understanding of reality, but that doesn't mean that irrational fears are justified. :)K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkull Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 Another quote (one of my favorites)... "The only sovereign I can allow to rule me is reason. The first law of reason is this: what exists, exists; what is, is. From this irreducible, bedrock principle, all knowledge is built. This is the foundation from which life is embraced.Reason is a choice. Wishes and whims are not facts, nor are they a means to discovering them. Reason is our only way of grasping reality - it's our basic tool of survival. We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see."-Terry Goodkind (Faith of the Fallen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sativarg Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Another quote (one of my favorites)..."It does the sheep no good to preach the goodness of a diet of grass, if the wolves are of a different mind." ---from -Terry Goodkind's Nathan (Stone of Tears) :^) Pass the lentils and rice please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkull Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 Another one from Stone of Tears:“... the greatest harm can result from the best intentions. It sounds a paradox, but kindness and good intentions can be an insidious path to destruction. Sometimes doing what seems right is wrong, and can cause harm. The only counter to it is knowledge, wisdom, forethought, and understanding the first rule…”“Good intentions, being kind, can encourage the lazy, and motivate sound minds to become indolent. The more help you give them, the more help they need. As long as your kindness is open-ended, they never gain discipline, dignity, or self-reliance. Your kindness impoverishes their humanity.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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