Bruma just loves to crash

[vaporose]

Alright. Here's the deal. I've got a bunch of mods on my game, and not quite enough ram, so as to be expected I have relatively frequent crashes. However, not only are these crashes much more frequent in Bruma, but also worse - about half the time I attempt to make a save while in or very near Bruma the game crashes and the save is corrupted. It's pretty much unplayable there. I went back and tried playing and saving in other places, no problem. I have the latest FCOM and followed its installation to the letter, as well as ran FCOMHelper.

 

So something is amiss in Bruma and it needs fixing. If all that is to be said is that I need more ram, then I guess so be it... Otherwise, if any help can be had, I appreciate it. :)

 

Computer specs:

 

Intel Core 2 Duo 2.20ghz

1 gb ram

nVidia GeForce 8500 GT

 

 

 

My load order:

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

03 Jog_X_Mod.esm

04 CM Partners.esm

05 AWS-Core.esm

06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.35]

07 Qarls_Harvest.esm

08 Armamentarium.esm [Version 0.34]

09 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34Beta3]

0A Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.6beta]

0B Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9a8]

0C TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.36]

0D FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

0E Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

0F Better Cities Resources.esm

10 BathingMod_Base.esm

11 EyeCandy - Content.esm

12 Toaster Says Share v3.esm

13 CLS-Craftybits.esm

14 HorseCombatMaster.esm

++ TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

15 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

18 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

** LoadingScreens.esp

** LoadingScreensAddOn.esp

++ AWS-Tweaks BN.esp

++ Improved Water.esp

++ Symphony of Violence.esp

1A MIS.esp

1B Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

1C Atmospheric Oblivion - AWS Patch.esp

1D Diverse Voices.esp

1E AWS-Storms & Sound.esp

1F Cities Alive At Night.esp

20 Qarls_Harvest.esp

21 Living Economy.esp

22 Living Economy - Items.esp

23 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

24 Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0]

25 Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.10]

26 Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

27 ArmamentariumArmor4Npcs.esp [Version 0.34]

28 ArmamentariumWeapons4Npcs.esp [Version 0.34]

29 ArmamentariumKatanas.esp

2A ArmamentariumVendors.esp

2B ArmamentariumStaffs.esp

2C extavegant masks.esp

2D KDCirclets.esp

2E Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

2F ASlof'sBraceletsandClaws.esp

30 Slof's Male Clothing.esp

31 EyeCandy Compilation.esp

++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

32 StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp

33 Slof's Horses Base.esp

++ Slof's Horses Essential.esp

34 xuldarkforest.esp

35 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]

++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]

36 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

37 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.32]

38 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.29]

++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

39 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

3A FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

3B Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

3C FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

3D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34Beta3]

3E Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.6beta]

3F Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9a8]

40 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

41 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

42 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.6Beta]

++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

43 TamrielTravellers4000.esp [Version 1.36]

++ TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

44 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.36]

++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

45 ArmamentariumWeapons4OOO.esp

++ Atmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.esp

++ Atmospheric Oblivion - OOO Patch.esp

++ Fransfemale.esp

++ OOO-Armor.esp

++ Qarls_Harvest - OOO Patch.esp

++ StockClothingArmor-forExnems - OOO Patch.esp

46 Slof's Goth Shop.esp

47 ClocksOfCyrodiilBC.esp

48 Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp

49 ArmoryLab.esp

4A BravilSeaDomes.esp

4B GlenvarCastle.esp

4C MolagBalTreasury.esp

4D MountainTower.esp

4E thievery.esp

4F VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

50 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

51 Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp

52 Thieves Highway.esp

53 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 5.1]

++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]

54 FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_OMGSRT.esp [Version 0.9.9]

55 xulStendarrValley.esp

56 xulTheHeath.esp

57 XulEntiusGorge.esp

58 ULFallenLeafEverglade.esp

59 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

5A xulChorrolHinterland.esp

5B xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

5C xulLushWoodlands.esp

5D xulAncientYews.esp

5E xulAncientRedwoods.esp

5F xulCloudtopMountains.esp

60 xulArriusCreek.esp

61 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

62 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

63 xulImperialIsle.esp

64 Moriarcis.esp

65 Better Cities Full.esp

66 Better Cities - ICMarket Additions.esp

67 Better Cities - SKINGRAD Additions.esp

68 Better Cities - ANVIL Additions.esp

69 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Lost Coast.esp

6A Better Cities - Anvil FPS Improver.esp

6B Better Cities - CHORROL Additions.esp

6C Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

6D Better Cities - LEYAWIIN Additions.esp

6E Better Cities - CHEYDINHAL Additions.esp

6F Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

70 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

71 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

72 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp

73 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp

74 gardening.esp

++ more books teach.esp

75 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.05]

76 CLS-craftybits.esp

77 CLS-CB-Cobl.esp

78 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

79 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

7A MidasSpells.esp

7B Midas OscuroGems.esp

7C SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.79b]

++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.75]

7D SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.78]

++ SM_MMMCompatability.esp [Version 0.79]

7E attack and hide medium v2.1.esp

7F RenGuardOverhaul.esp

80 Denock Arrows.esp

81 BathingMod_Soap.esp

82 BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

83 BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

84 AFLevelMod.esp

85 AleswellMerchant.esp

86 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

87 actors_in_charge.esp

88 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

89 CM Partners.esp

8A Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp

++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp

8B HGEC_BodyGlove.esp

8C DemonRace.esp

8D LD_Patrick_Stewart_Sean_Bean.esp

8E bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 9.11EV-D]

8F bgBalancingNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]

** bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]

** bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]

++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 9.1EV-D]

90 CM_Essential_Classes.esp

91 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

92 Streamline 3.1.esp

93 DeadlyReflex - Combat Moves.esp

94 Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp

[tyreil829]

by anychance mate you did the conflict detecter?

 

Jack Sparrow

[Ekkoe]

I can't imagine with this load of mods none would conflict, indeed.

 

I did get some problems with the Bruma Mages Guild before (I just couldn't enter), but that turned out to be an OOO problem. I'd turn it off, walk in, turn it on again. Its annoying, but gets you where you wanna go.

 

I'd suggest figuring out what mod it is, but seen as the issue is too vague to figure out and there's so many mods, I doubt that'll work...

[vaporose]

Yeah, I did run the conflict detector in OBMM... but, I can't see anything that would cause a crash, at least so far. It seems as though there's a script running that's having some kind of trouble... *shrugs*

 

Thanks anyway. :)

[HouseAtlantic]

These mods like Crowded roads, Tamriel travelers, and nightlife would be my first suspicion. probably time to weed out the ones you're tired of, it would take you weeks to look into every mod your using and pin point the problem. Instead of using every individual Banana split better cities esp, use the all in one plug-in. The mods that change the leveling systems spell trouble, from my experience, especially with the vast list you have. I'm using half the same mods as you minus the overhauls and obse. seems like all the script extender users are having problems, you guys be careful ;)

[tyreil829]

House i use crowed roads + Temriel Travelers and i had no problems could be something else but you could be right

 

Psycho

[vaporose]

I upgraded from OBSE 14a to 15, removed Diverse Voices, upgraded Supreme Magica, and as suggested reorganized my Better Cities stuff. It's working a lot better now, or at least it's more stable - still having crashes on save, but not as frequent.