CDT in a specific zone

[Shindaal]

Hello guys!

First of all, english isn't my native language so please forgive my mistakes.

I'm a total newbie to modding even if i spend a lot of time on this forum/site trying to learn. I mostly followed the Septim list of mods ( except for the oldrim mods) + some mods that weren't in that list but that i like.
Everything is working perfectly so i didn't realise that there was a problem during my tests before begining my new run.
The problem is that there is a "zone" (can't find a better word) i can't walk in without instantly crash and i have no idea why. It's, approximativly between Rayak's end entry (a mod home) and Whiterun's bridge.






Here is my modlist :

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm
10 a RSkyrimChildren.esm
11 b BSAssets.esm
12 c BSHeartland.esm
13 d BS_DLC_patch.esp
14 e Campfire.esm
15 f Falskaar.esm
16 10 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
17 11 Cutting Room Floor.esp
18 12 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
19 13 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
20 14 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
21 15 SkyUI_SE.esp
22 16 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
23 17 HelmetToggle.esp
24 18 Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp
25 19 RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
26 1a RSChildren.esp
27 1b Beards.esp
28 1c DustEffectsSSE.esp
29 1d DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
30 1e Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
31 1f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
32 20 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
33 21 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
34 22 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
35 23 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
36 24 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
37 25 JKs Skyrim.esp
38 26 JKs_Skyrim_No_Lights_Patch.esp
39 27 QaxeQuestorium.esp
40 28 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
41 29 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
42 2a Cloaks.esp
43 2b Shor's Stone.esp
44 2c Helarchen Creek.esp
45 2d Kynesgrove.esp
46 2e Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
47 2f Karthwasten.esp
48 30 Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp
49 31 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
50 32 JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp
51 33 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
52 34 TheIsland.esp
53 35 Gildergreen Regrown.esp
54 36 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
55 37 Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp
56 38 Elemental_Staffs.esp
57 39 UnreadBooksGlow.esp
58 3a VioLens SE.esp
59 3b WeightLessTrueAll.esp
60 3c ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
61 3d Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
62 3e Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
63 3f Dr_Bandolier.esp
64 40 CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
65 41 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
66 42 Runed_Nordic_Weapons.esp
67 43 Unique Uniques.esp
68 44 beltfastenedquivers.esp
69 45 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
70 46 Footprints.esp
71 47 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp
72 48 FNIS.esp
73 49 FNISspells.esp
74 4a Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
75 4b 1nivWICCloaks.esp
76 4c 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
77 4d VR_Tannick.esp
78 4e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
79 4f Darkwater Crossing.esp
80 50 ELFXEnhancer.esp
81 51 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
82 52 My Home Is Your Home.esp
83 53 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
84 54 TheIsland_AlternateStartAddon.esp
85 55 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
86 56 RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
87 57 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

Thanks in advance for your help :smile:

Shin!

[jones177]

Hi

 

If it is south of the bridge it but before the zigzag in the road to Riverwood it could be from a weather change.

 

In Skyrim LE that is the worst area for CTDs in the game. For years the chance of me getting to Riverwood without a CTD was less than 50%. Even in SE I consider the area volatile.

 

First you need to determine what type of CTD it is.

 

We know it is not random so it is either a 3 game day CTD or a permanent CTD.

 

Most 3 game day CTDs are caused by spawning mods. Some are caused by mods that interact with weather mods. The best way to deal with them is to either fast travel over the CTD, go someplace else or wait 3 game days & try again. To cut down on these types of CTDs you may have to change your weather mod. In Skyrim LE I replaced Climates Of Tamriel with Vivid Weathers for that very reason. To test walk from Riverwood toward Whiterun. The weather change usually does not trigger a CTD moving in that direction.

With spawning mods I try to keep the spawned NPCs as vanilla as possible.

 

Permanent CTDs are really bad.

In this game textures that are not properly converted from LE are the main culprit. This gets more complicated since a mod that will be ok on Windows 10 can CTD on Windows 7. This has something to do with the type of compression used on the texture.

To test, create a new character save & see if the CTD is there. If the CTD is not there the CTD is in the save & not in the game. If it is only in the save that leaves out a texture unless it is on a NPC. If it is on an NPC you will get the CTD in Riverwood as well.

 

Before doing anything use Loot. Changing your load order can sometimes fix this type of CTD if textures are not involved.

 

Later

[Shindaal]

Thank you for your answer!

 

1) it's a permanent CDT

2) i'm on windows 10, good gaming PC

3)I tried to create a new character and i CDT at the precise same place.

4) I use Loot :)

 

i'm kind lost in the fog, I just can't undersand why i crash every time I try to enter in this pretty large zone.

[jones177]

Hi

 

Next is to test your esps.

 

If you use NMM the plugins tab will allow you to switch off & on your esp/esms. Start with game changing mods. You can also switch off all mods except the DLCs to test. You can also switch off plugins in blocks to speed up the processes.

Use your new test save. Your older save my not load without the mods.

 

I have a permanent CTD in my Windows 10 game as well. It is between Whiterun & Whistling Mine. I also have the game with the same mods & load list on my Windows 7 computer. On that computer the CTD does not exist.

For the past few weeks I have been trying make sure that there is no difference between the games by copying files from the Win 7 computer to the Win 10 computer & making sure than the mods esp/esms are the same versions. So far no luck.

I am now working on files outside of the data folder like inis, ENB & Reshade.

 

Hopefully you will have better luck than me.

 

Later.