Constant CTD's in the reach

[neok182]

*edit* now i'm getting crashes in other areas too. but again same thing, uncheck all mods, works.

 

 

the game is just instantly CTDing, no errors or anything. very similar to my memory issues, but it's ONLY when i'm in the reach. now i thought that this was because of the monster mod that i had just installed, uninstalled, no fix.

 

then i thought it was because of the apocalypse spells mod, uninstalled, no fix.

 

now i'm at a loss, i have no idea how i've avoided the entire reach for this playthrough but i guess i have, now i can't go anywhere west of riften or east of ivarstead without the game crashing. sometimes if i fast travel directly to a location itl'l work, but if i try going through. CTD. especially just east of ivarstead, any direction brings CTD.

 

i know it's a mod, since i unchecked them all and the issue was gone, but between school and work i have maybe an hour a day to play and i don't want to spend the next couple weeks wasting all of my time just trying to find out what mod it is. so i'm hoping for some help.

 

mod list with probably tons of spelling mistakes because i'm pissed off and typing this out manually since i don't know of anyway to get a txt list out of it.

 

really hope someone can help me here. right now just so annoyed and angry at this and other reasons i can barely even think. i know it's a mod but have no idea which one.

 

blacktowerarmory.esm

apachiihair.esm

the asteria - dwemerairship.esp

unlimitedbookshelves.esp

more craftables.esp

craftable artifacts.esp

fasterarrows100.esp

enhanceddymanicweathersystemnormal.esp

mintylightningmod.

morerain.esp

moresnow.esp

midasskyrim.esp

mighty magick - scaling.esp

mighty magick - fortify magic school enchantment and alchemy reversed.esp

mighty macik - dual casting.esp

essential shadowmere v2.esp

lost art of the blacksmith.esp

legendarysmithingupgrades.esp

iputaspellonyou.esp

rings.esp

deadlyspellimpacts.esp

immersivewater3.esp

argonian claws and pugilist bonus.esp

more prey animals.esp

weaponsof3e-alpha.esp

killmove.esp

playerhomemapmarkers.esp

craftdawnbreaker.esp

upscaled beginner destruction spells.esp

ringsofcreation.esp

masterenchanter.esp

changeshockshader.esp

removesmithingexpertisesound.esp

spellsexpanded.esp

perq.esp

heartoflorkhan.esp

phenderix magic evolved no perk.esp

lovely hairstyles.esp

theroadstrokersalvenhewoutfit set.esp

lukasdetect life.esp

nicos gift.esp

1nivwiccloakscraft.esp

proper aiming.esp

newermind bow collecion.esp

spellforceice.esp

raven set v1.4.esp

crimson tide - blood.esp

omegared99-weaponsets.esp

terahairweightfix.esp

frosthorsewhite.esp

saskia.esp

lordofwar_greywarden.esp

omegared99-complimation-npcplugin.esp

omegared99-complimation.esp

dimensional house.esp

realisticwhiterun.esp

beautiful whiterun.esp

cavalos.esp

cleanerbreezehome.esp

insanity's sorrow.esp

blacksacrementarmor.esp

blacktowerupdate.esp

r18pn - eisen platte armor.esp

nirnfallsmanor.esp

creed hills estate.esp

lydia-1.esp

fs_eveningstar.esp

skyhairedits.esp

more hair colors.esp

freeride.esp

magika sabers.esp

dynasty_manor.esp

joOmasslightning.esp

spellforcelightning.esp

enchant4effects.esp

Edited May 7, 2012 by neok182

[Forevermuffins]

Few things.

 

1. The Reach and a few other places are very intensive, they will tax a system more than other places.

 

2. Having that many mods will lead to CTDs very fast.

 

3. Likely candidates are mods that add or edit locations or scripted events in locations. The more you rip out, the more stable the game is.

 

3a. Check Riverwood, is it there?

 

3b. Check Helgen, is it there?

 

3c. Check Breezehome, can you go in without CTD?

 

 

4. Your game may need a restart, how big is your save? If it above 10mb your save is barely salvageable, above 15mb, you probably can't do much to save your system.

 

4a. Try waiting 30 days in an interior cell, see what that does.

Edited May 7, 2012 by Forevermuffins

[neok182]

1) i was having CTD's due to memory issues, but i did a hack and the game was fine. ran it for 6+ hours a couple weeks ago when before it i played for 15 minutes, got purple textuers and a CTD. and these issues seem to be always happening in the wilderness when walking, not in a town, and always in the same spots, and when i uncheck all my mods, works just fine.

 

2) yeah i know, but up until the last week i wasn't having any issues, at least i assume i wasn't. i wasn't going to the places where i'm having issues now.

 

3) don't think i have any of those. did you notice any?

 

3a-riverwood is fine. was there last night and when i tired walking north, crash. but stayed in riverwood for a while and fought a dragon with no issues.

 

3b- yes. didn't restart to check, but i just fast traveled, unlocked the gate and while attacking a bandit it crashed.

 

3c- no. able to go in, walk around, no issues here.

 

4) currently almost 9MB. really don't want to restart just yet. And as i mentioned, if i uncheck all the mods, no crash. so i don't think thats the issue.

 

4a- i'll give it a shot. though considering it's fixed just from simply removing a mod i don't think thats it. hence why i posted the list. hoping that someone could see and recognize the mod thats causing it so i don't have to go one by one through the entire list.

[Forevermuffins]

k ill go through the list but basically adding or editing a cell is the biggest problem for Skyrim, navmesh errors and more data to run in the back usually.

 

Waiting 30 days resets textures and basic ingame objects and pretty much any loose stuff, it will give you some memory back because you no longer keeping track of that sweetroll all the way in that abandoned castle somewhere and that Dragon's corpse hanging of the side of a mountain etc etc.

 

< = Likely problem or something of note

Anything else listed MAY be causing issue, but probably not.

 

blacktowerarmory.esm

apachiihair.esm < this has been noted as a problem file at times

the asteria - dwemerairship.esp < major conflictor

unlimitedbookshelves.esp

fasterarrows100.esp <very minor conflictor

enhanceddymanicweathersystemnormal.esp < weather is an iffy prospect since I don't use em

morerain.esp

moresnow.esp

midasskyrim.esp < Don't use it, but adds massive content, so it may conflict

mighty magick - scaling.esp

mighty magick - fortify magic school enchantment and alchemy reversed.esp <

mighty macik - dual casting.esp

iputaspellonyou.esp

deadlyspellimpacts.esp

immersivewater3.esp

more prey animals.esp

killmove.esp

upscaled beginner destruction spells.esp

spellsexpanded.esp

phenderix magic evolved no perk.esp

lovely hairstyles.esp

theroadstrokersalvenhewoutfit set.esp

lukasdetect life.esp

proper aiming.esp

spellforceice.esp

crimson tide - blood.esp

dimensional house.esp < adds a house

realisticwhiterun.esp < Changes a cell

beautiful whiterun.esp < changes and possibly conflicts with above mod

cleanerbreezehome.esp < Changes cell

nirnfallsmanor.esp < adds a house

creed hills estate.esp < adds a house

dynasty_manor.esp < adds a house

spellforcelightning.esp < intensive spell

enchant4effects.esp < alters scripting

 

Try removing Asteria, a manor, and one of the Whiterun edits, you'll probably notice a difference. Another thing to check is ENB, if you have it running SSAO, abandon it, your comp can run it out of program for Ambient occlusion or be made to.

[neok182]

got it down to the 4 house mods. and for now, i'm just going to leave them all off.

 

asteria

nirn falls

creed hills

dynasty manor

 

dimensional house works just fine as expected since it's a totally new area and does not touch the world.

 

I find it very strange that houses seem to cause so many issues in skyrim. I had like 5 house mods in Fallout 3 and never seemed to have any issues. In Oblivion i had like 4-5 as well, in addition to the TARDIS (which skyrim needs ASAP).

 

thank you for your help, honestly those would have been the last mods i checked.

 

i really am curious though, why do house mods cause so many issues?

[Dragonflarcos]

got it down to the 4 house mods. and for now, i'm just going to leave them all off.

 

asteria

nirn falls

creed hills

dynasty manor

 

dimensional house works just fine as expected since it's a totally new area and does not touch the world.

 

I find it very strange that houses seem to cause so many issues in skyrim. I had like 5 house mods in Fallout 3 and never seemed to have any issues. In Oblivion i had like 4-5 as well, in addition to the TARDIS (which skyrim needs ASAP).

 

thank you for your help, honestly those would have been the last mods i checked.

 

i really am curious though, why do house mods cause so many issues?

There are a lot of threads out there talking about this problem it has to do smth with navmesh or what ever i dont really care.

But I know that theres a fix, but u need to open the .esp's with the CK.

go to the technical support forums here on the nexus theres a thread about how to fix this issue,

[neok182]

got it down to the 4 house mods. and for now, i'm just going to leave them all off.

 

asteria

nirn falls

creed hills

dynasty manor

 

dimensional house works just fine as expected since it's a totally new area and does not touch the world.

 

I find it very strange that houses seem to cause so many issues in skyrim. I had like 5 house mods in Fallout 3 and never seemed to have any issues. In Oblivion i had like 4-5 as well, in addition to the TARDIS (which skyrim needs ASAP).

 

thank you for your help, honestly those would have been the last mods i checked.

 

i really am curious though, why do house mods cause so many issues?

There are a lot of threads out there talking about this problem it has to do smth with navmesh or what ever i dont really care.

But I know that theres a fix, but u need to open the .esp's with the CK.

go to the technical support forums here on the nexus theres a thread about how to fix this issue,

 

thanks for the information. i'll be checking it out.

[givvvver]

My problem was, when travelling to The Reach from every direction it would CTD. Turns out Sundracon Male body mod comes with forsworn boot meshes and by deleting these, the forsworn NPCs feet look funny but totaly fixed my problem. Hope this helps some people.

 

Cheers \m/