Acired Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) @Acired don't allow yourself to be discouraged by too much information. Make your decision on whether you want to switch to MO2 or not and then follow the appropriate steps. After a long fight with NMM, I said f*** it and did a completely clean install after which I started using MO2 with fresh new saves. Now I'm done modding and I can say: It was a lot of work, but it's 100% worth it in my opinion. Hey thanks for your encouragement. I've been working nonstop this month, so I haven't cracked open Skyrim at all... and now I am looking at my game, debating what I might lose by switching. When you haven't played in awhile it starts to feel like a fresh start isn't bad. On one hand, I think I'd like to have a bug-free game and it seems MO2 is the way to go. Also I realize now there were choices in mods I picked, that I wish I could take back (like mistakenly choosing CBBE body over UNP). And it seems Skyrim is much less forgiving about changing out mods midgame than Fallout 4 is. So the desire to 'reboot' is strong. But I just hit level 39 and rank 100 in my One-Hand and Block skills, and I have other skills that only just started getting good... sigh. I wish there was a way to fix things and swap out mods without throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I'm going to agonize for a bit longer over my choices, since I am still busy IRL and have no time for playing, much less doing a full mod revamp, it might be awhile. But if you think that there's any way to salvage my current game, be it through saved-game cleaners, MO2 and careful mod sorting, please do feel free to throw any suggestions my way! I really appreciate the video resource and advice. Edited June 29, 2018 by Acired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acired Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 I just wasted hours upon hours following that stupid tutorial and trying MO2. They never even MENTIONED that the way MO2 works is through "virtualization", and that if a utility fails to install normally through MO2 you CANNOT fall back on the older method of installing manually into the Data Folder. Everytime I tried to use the damned MO2 method of adding utilities like Bodyslide, FNIS, or SKSE through the stupid interface, it was ALWAYS grayed out. A whole weekend's worth of my limited time away from work went up in smoke. I hate this tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalazan Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I just wasted hours upon hours following that stupid tutorial and trying MO2. They never even MENTIONED that the way MO2 works is through "virtualization", and that if a utility fails to install normally through MO2 you CANNOT fall back on the older method of installing manually into the Data Folder. Everytime I tried to use the damned MO2 method of adding utilities like Bodyslide, FNIS, or SKSE through the stupid interface, it was ALWAYS grayed out. A whole weekend's worth of my limited time away from work went up in smoke. I hate this tool.You watched the GamerPoets series (4 parts starting with this one: )? First, virtualization is implied throughout the entire series. How else could one have multiple profiles and/or multiple variations of mods installed? Have multiple installations of the game folder? I think not. That would be a nightmare. Having a virtualized process allows myriad combinations and allows for precise choice of what loads where. I, for example, have one profile for nothing other than character creation. I have another for testing, and another for gameplay. Secondly, yes, you can install mods or utilities directly into the game's data folder (although there is no good reason to do so). If so, they will appear 'grayed out' in the top left of the MO window. That, as explained in the tutorials, signifies they are present in the game folder but not managed by MO. The correct path to install all mods for Skyrim when using MO is: \\steam\\steamapps\\common\\ModOrganizer\\mods\\...... simple as that. It's unfortunate your experience has proven frustrating. But as someone who has 400+ mods in my current lineup, it would be unbearable to attempt such a thing without MO (with help from MergePlugins and MatorSmash). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acired Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Well I took a breather and finally found some helpful people in the Nexus Discord. The previous night when I was frustrated, I ran into some snarky and snide personalities that were just making fun and not helpful, so it soured my mood when I made my previous post. I got MO2 working mostly, but I keep running into a strange behavior where I play for awhile, and after saving and exiting, when I try to play again, I get constant CTD's when trying to load the saved game. I've tried using Mator Smash, but it doesn't seem to be helping me much, but then again I may not be using it most effectively. If there's anything that can be done to help me out, I'd love to find out WHY I keep crashing when I try and pick up my saved games. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acired Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 I finally got someone to tell me what the cause of my crashing was! I was using the latest XPM skeleton and had to roll it back to 4.20 as well installing a different supporting plugin. I am regaining my faith in the nexus community again, which makes me feel better about the salty pickle from the other night. Thank you all, it seems like I can finally have a stable and continuous Skyrim playthrough now! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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