OBSE Crash

[SorinAlin24]

Hello everyone!

Everytime when i lunch the game with OBSE, and start a new game, the game crashes. Why? I tried everything, but don't work. Still crashes... Please, i need help.

 

My load order:

 

Oblivion.esm (SI)

Cybiades.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esm

DremoraCompanion.esm

Knights-Revelation.esm

POTSB.esm

Unofficial Oblibion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging& Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Natural Habitat by Max Tael.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural Si.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

Immersive Interiors Bravil.esp

Immersive Interiors Imperial City.esp

Immersive Interiors Landscape Addon.esp

PTAutum Trees.esp

Dynamic Snow Accumulation Better Cities Bruma.esp

Enhanced Watwe v2.0 ND.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Natural Water by Max Tael.esp

Realistic Water.esp

All Natural Real Lights.esp

WindowLightningSystem.esp

BrumasNorthemLights.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters Koi Addon.esp

AlliveWaters Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Alive Waters nofish.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Ducks and Swans.esp

ImprovedSigns.esp

PTFallingStars.esp

QQuix Rock, rock, rock your ship V3.esp

Enhanced Seasons.esp

kurteeCleanUp.esp

OblivionReloaded.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor- Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCorrery- Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair- Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor- Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes- Unofficial Patch.esp

Book Jackets DLC.esp

GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

EVE StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

SentinentWeapon.esp

Weapon Improvement Project.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen- Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen- Unofficial Patch- SSSB.esp

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

Alurring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alurring Wine Bottles.esp

Order des Drachen.esp

AHP.esp

Astralis.esp

BossPhaitCrab.esp

BossPhaitStygainHalls.esp

Haunted House v1.5.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

kvIndonia01.esp

RoadLights.esp

mystery of mausoleum.esp

OLDArchfiend.esp

PathoftheSku;;Bearer.esp

POTSB.esp

Reaper's In Cold Blood Quest.esp

Steve- Thieves Guils HQ.esp

Trees in Anvil (2).esp

VHBloodnies 1.2.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle-Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostgrag-Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights-Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights-Revelation.esp

EVE KnightsoftheNine.esp

Fall of the Ayleids.esp

Cybiades.esp

CybiadesDungeon.esp

DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp

BlackwoodJungle.esp

Frostcrag Village.esp

Natural Vegetation by Max Tael.esp

Harvest(Flora).esp

Harvest(Flora)-Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest(Flora)-DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest(Flora)-DLCFrostcrag.esp

Eve ShiveringIsleEasterEggs.esp

Improved Fires and Flames-Increased Sound.esp

Lush&Gaudy Damn Greens.esp

Lush&Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull5.esp

Lush&Gaudy FG.esp

ShinySeptims Septimus.esp

ShinySeptims Trahanus.esp

tbskGuardsFeatures.esp

DremoraCompanion.esp

Oblivion Character Overhaul.esp

bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp

Initial Glow Redux.esp

Initial Glow Redux-Creaures.esp

Falling Leaves.esp

All Natural-Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

TheVoidImpact.esp

RemoveVisuals.esp

The Forgotten Dungeon.esp

kvDunwukim01.esp

FCR-FCV Patch.esp

Fall of the Ayleids-Non-OCO Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

MaleBodyReplacerv5.esp.

 

 

 

[DrakeTheDragon]

Hmm, that's a tough one alright. I still don't have a clue.

 

OBSE itself alone (usually) can't crash your game, as it's not doing much/anything on its own. So if it doesn't crash when run without OBSE, usually either OBSE-dependent plugins or OBSE-plugins (DLLs inside /data/OBSE/plugins/) are at fault.

The load order is a little bit too much for me to spot anything up front. But what OBSE-plugins (see above) are you using additionally?

 

Does your obse.log and/or obse_loader.log found inside your game folder perhaps tell anything about the origin of the crash?

Oh, and the Windows event log, does it say anything about the exact "module" which faulted/crashed?

 

Did you try renaming any and all .DLL files inside the /data/OBSE/plugins/ folder to end on something like .OFF or .BAK instead, thus temporarily disabling all OBSE-plugins, and see if it helps?

 

What other surrounding software are you using additionally? ENB wrapper/injector through d3d9.dll or the like? Game Companion or similar launchers? Anything that "also" runs before it starts your game?

[SorinAlin24]

If i launch the game with oblivion laucher, the games work fine, but the mods dont work. I use ENB Wrapper version. obse.log and obse_loader.log are not in my game folder.

[glowplug]

SorinAlin24 PMed me but I'll answer here for anyone searching on OBSE Crash.

 

NOTE WELL: if anyone can add/correct anything then please do so.

OBSE runs the code behind a lot of those mods and HAS to run or there will be tons of errors in the background.

If you get lost in the following then I suggest reading FRESH INSTALL below.

The first thing I notice is Oblivion Reloaded but no Darnified UI.
Did you follow INSTALL on http://tesreloaded.com/thread/2/package

• Critical Step: Delete Darn folder from under ../Oblivion/Data/Menus/Prefabs/
• Important Step: Delete Oblivion.ini from under C:/User/YourUserName/Documents/My Games/Oblivion

The next is 'No OBSE log files'.
If Oblivion is installed anywhere under C:/Program Files (x86)/ then it will need elevated permissions - I have never done this and would follow the FRESH INSTALL steps.
Please post anybody with better idea.

To troubleshoot a problem we need to retrace our steps.
The thing is that you have around 90 non DLC mods. You have not posted what led up to the crash - the permutations for this could be in the billions for all I know.

• Have you just started playing Oblivion?
• Have you just installed all of those mods to a fresh install of Oblivion?

OR

• Been playing for ages, just installed 1 mod and should be troubleshooting it?

OR

• Been playing for whatever time and just added 10-25% of those mods?

What about Dependencies (Requirements)?
I have a document called My Mods with that lists off mod requirements and their load order.
Do you know all of these and have the Load Order correct?

BINARY SEARCH
Untick and game test 1 mod at a time would take forever so do it by halves but make sure to note Dependencies...

a) Untick around half of Previous Ticked and game test.
Problem goes away GoTo b)
Else GoTo a)
b) Retick around half of Previous UnTicked and game test.

...repeat till down to 1 esp.

NOTE: do Not have WryeBash or any other mod manager running - do it through the Oblivion Splash screen.
Retick all before opening WryeBash/other.

 

If you're still lost I suggest a...
FRESH INSTALL
Note: C:/ can be whatever drive, faster the better.

1. Install Oblivion as either C:/Oblivion or C:/Steam/SteamApps/Common/Oblivion
2. Go over your list of mods and document Dependencies and Load Order.
3. Install 'Group's of mods, no more than 10 at a time and test in game.

If it crashes on latest 'Group' then binary search should nail it in 2-4 steps.

[glowplug]

SorinAlin24 pmed that Dunwukim causes the CTD however did not elaborate on how or why he knows this.

I've tested with fresh install of Oblivion, Unofficial Patches then Dunwukim downloaded from Nexus.
From new game through to exit of sewers then Dunwukim itself without problem.

As SorinAlin24 found CTD on start of new game I have my theories to do with the way Dunwukim starts up.
All I can suggest is don't Install/Enable Dunwukim till somewhere safe such as a City.
I've put that under Known Issues.

While I could redo Dunwukim start routine I would sooner delete it than waste time I need for Indornia.