Wolfskin75 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) I have been working through a lot of issues and this is the lastest. Every time I access an Armor bench the game crashes. I have downloaded a NUMBER of new armors and clothes and the related patches for Awkcr. Armorsmith extended and Crafting workbench. Wondering if anyone has experinced this and what did you do to solve it. 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 ACS Master.esm 9 9 NAC.esm 10 a ArmorKeywords.esm 11 b CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm 12 c Homemaker.esm 13 d NewCalibers.esp 14 e PipBoyCustomisationFramework.esm 15 f SettlementKeywords.esm 16 10 VotWMaster.esm DLCUltraHighResolution.esm 17 11 512StandaloneHairColors.esp 18 12 AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp 19 13 BeSilent.esp 20 14 GKX Commonwealth Cleanup DLC Version.esp 21 15 Commonwealth Clean up Project Combined.esp 22 16 OA_LootableMaterialsCrates_vanilla_mergedDLC.esp 23 17 WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp 24 18 MGHomePlate.esp 25 19 ConcordEXPANDED.esp 26 1a QuazCottageDLC03.esp 27 1b Sanctuary Hills - Repair and Cleanup - Compatibility Version.esp 28 1c Snappy_HouseK.esp 29 1d Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 30 1e VaultSuitBoxes.esp 31 1f goodneighbourhomeplate.esp 32 20 HagenEXPANDED.esp 33 21 Eli_MarlboroughHouseNODLC.esp 34 22 NoBuildLimits.esp 35 23 RRTV_GoodneighborCondo.esp 36 24 RRTV_HomesAndBunkers_Coastal.esp 37 25 PlayerApartment.esp 38 26 Eli_Chestnut Lodge DLC.esp 39 27 IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp 40 28 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 41 29 Armorsmith Extended.esp 42 2a Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - The Castle.esp 43 2b DCPH.esp 44 2c Minutemen Supply Caches.esp 45 2d My_Minutemen.esp 46 2e MilitarizedMinutemen.esp 47 2f Minuteman Watchtowers.esp 48 30 Conquest.esp 49 31 CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp 50 32 LNDatingTheCommonwealth.esp 51 33 MK_CanteensofCommonwealth.esp 52 34 MREs.esp 53 35 AA HotC - Standalone.esp 54 36 BetterSettlers.esp 55 37 AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp 56 38 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp 57 39 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp 58 3a Beautiful Female Settlers v. 2.0 - BS Compatible - NMR.esp 59 3b BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp 60 3c AA LMSE_BetterSettlers_2.0_Patch_Mortal.esp 61 3d AA LMSE_WATM_Patch.esp 62 3e ABP Paintings.esp 63 3f ABP Pip-Boy Wallpapers [PBCF] - AIO.esp 64 40 AdvBubbleTurretSet.esp 65 41 AdventurerOutfit.esp 66 42 mk14.esp 67 43 AzarHolsteredWeapons.esp 68 44 SanctuaryRootCellarModLights.esp 69 45 SCAR-L.esp 70 46 LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp 71 47 SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp 72 48 FV20_DreadHG.esp 73 49 AQUILA.esp 74 4a Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp 75 4b Art Gallery.esp 76 4c ASA.esp 77 4d AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp 78 4e AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 79 4f BetterSettlersHeavyArmorOnly.esp 80 50 BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp 81 51 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp 82 52 BobbleGirl.esp 83 53 Buildable_PAFrames.esp 84 54 Buildable_PAFrames_Recipe.esp 85 55 Campsite.esp Campsite-AWKCR.esp 86 56 CBBE.esp 87 57 CMBoutfit.esp 88 58 Colored Highlights CC.esp 89 59 Colored Workshop Lights.esp 90 5a Constructible_Reactor.esp 91 5b Crafting Workbench.esp 92 5c Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp 93 5d Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp 94 5e Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp 95 5f Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp 96 60 Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp 97 61 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp 98 62 Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp 99 63 Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp100 64 CROSS_Swimsuit.esp101 65 CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp102 66 DanLi_VaultExplorer.esp103 67 DeluxeGlasses.esp104 68 DX_Banshee_Recon_Armor.esp105 69 EferasShoulderBag.esp106 6a EferasShoulderBag-YatzTailored.esp107 6b EferasShoulderBag-YatzTailored-AWKCR.esp108 6c el_AgentOutfit.esp109 6d Elegant Hardware.esp110 6e Elegant Hardware AWKCR.esp111 6f Eli_PrudyVaultJumpsuit.esp112 70 Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp113 71 Extended weapon mods.esp114 72 Femsheppings Autumn Fashion.esp115 73 FemsheppingsLightBrawlerOutfits.esp116 74 FlirtyCommonwealthFemale.esp117 75 FM_Commonwealth_Mashups.esp118 76 FM_Wasteland_Mashups.esp119 77 Friffy_Holstered Weapons.esp120 78 Friffy_Piper Outfit_Standalone.esp121 79 GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp122 7a GKX New Perk Magazines.esp123 7b GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp124 7c HairVariations_Conversions.esp125 7d HairVariations_Elegant.esp126 7e HairVariations_FairyTails.esp127 7f HairVariations_Sophisticate.esp128 80 HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp129 81 HidePipboy.esp130 82 Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp131 83 Hot Mama NPCs Added Settlers and Minutemen B.esp132 84 HotMamaNPCFarHarbor02.esp133 85 IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp134 86 VaultTecEngineering.esp135 87 IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp136 88 Improved .50 Mod.esp137 89 Interview.esp138 8a JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp139 8b rpampas.esp140 8c KKYpampas.esp141 8d KSHairdos.esp142 8e LeeEnfieldNo4MkI - New Calibers .303.esp143 8f Lore Friendly Posters.esp144 90 LFP_WW_Patch.esp145 91 LMBTOverlays.esp146 92 LooksMenu.esp147 93 PinUpRedLipstick.esp148 94 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp149 95 LooksMirror.esp150 96 M2216.esp151 97 MilitarisedMinutemen_PatchesAddon.esp152 98 MiscHairstyle.esp153 99 mk14-awkcr.esp154 9a MMP4APA.esp155 9b MMP4APA-blue.esp156 9c MsRae_AlltheOveralls.esp157 9d NAC-AE Patch.esp158 9e NAC-FarHarbor.esp159 9f NAC-NukaWorld.esp160 a0 PBCF_Seed.esp161 a1 NanoSuit.esp162 a2 NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp163 a3 NezzarLingerieCollection.esp164 a4 NezzarUltimateCollection.esp165 a5 RELOAD_RELOAD.esp166 a6 rxl_collars.esp167 a7 ScrappySigns.esp168 a8 SettlementPrivacy.esp169 a9 Sit Anywhere Re-Done.esp170 aa SniperDamage v2.0x.esp171 ab StC_UniquePlayer.esp172 ac TERABusinessCasual.esp173 ad The Eyes Of Beauty.esp174 ae Thematic and Practical.esp175 af Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp176 b0 Under1wear.esp177 b1 UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowersDLC.esp UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersDLCNoHancock.esp UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowersDLCNoHancock.esp UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowers.esp UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowers.esp UniqueFemalePlayerAndFollowersNoHancock.esp UniqueMalePlayerAndFollowersNoHancock.esp UniqueFemaleFollowers.esp UniqueFemalePlayer.esp UniqueMaleFollowersDLC.esp UniqueMaleFollowersDLCNoHancock.esp UniqueMaleFollowers.esp UniqueMaleFollowersNoHancock.esp UniqueMalePlayer.esp178 b2 VNF.esp179 b3 VotWSpecialVideos.esp180 b4 Wasteland Heroines Replacer2_1.0.1.esp181 b5 Wasteland Heroines Replacer3_1.0.0.esp182 b6 Wasteland Heroines Replacer4_1.0.0.esp183 b7 Wasteland Heroines Replacer5_1.0.0.esp184 b8 WeaponRackFixes-NukaWorld.esp185 b9 wkzz_dr_combat_ranger_helm_mod.esp186 ba WRR-NW-Patch-AWKCR.esp187 bb Zipsuit.esp Edited June 26, 2018 by Wolfskin75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 You partly gave you the answer yourself. Probably one of the armors downloaded recently. Unfortunately, I don't know all of the armor/clothing mods in your load order. Also the outfits I had issues with myself aren't on your load order. So I can't point to a certain file. What you can do: Go to the armor workbench, hover over the armor pieces shown there one by one. Try to remeber on which piece exactly the crash happens. Now uninstall and maybe reinstall the corresponding mod and see, if this fixes it. If you can't nail down the "culprit" this way, all you can do is uninstall all the new armors you added recently and reinstall them one by one, until the CTD occurs again. This will show you the problem. Before going thorugh this procedure, I'd reinstall armorsmith extended plus AWKCR and make sure it overwrites everything, if there are conflicting files. CTDs like this can occur because some parts of AE or AWKCR were overwritten with (mostly outdated) other versions. It's also possible, that some older AWKCR- or AE-patches simply don't work with the current versions of AE any more. MAybe you will have to live with not having AE integration for some armors.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Okay. thank you... it's happened with I was customizing my pip boy and rebuilding my minutemen glasses. I haven't had any problem building any of the clothes at the Chem station. the first couple times it didn't work I wasn't paying attention... blamed poor eli for everything. ' edit* also, I am using vortex so it doesn't give me the over write prompt. Edited June 26, 2018 by Wolfskin75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Solved: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21721 Deluxe Glasses - Better Looking Glasses with Better Stats is the offender. removed and everything working good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 edit* also, I am using vortex so it doesn't give me the over write prompt. Glad you solved your issue! Just a little heads up on overwrites: Vortex (I'm using it myself) in fact has this options. It's just named differently. Vortex speaks of "conflicts" and shows this little lightning symbol (red for unsolved conflicts, green for solved ones). Technically, it's very similar to overwriting: By deciding which mod should "load after" the other, you basically tell Vortex to deploy (install) this mod's files (and not the other conflicting files). It isn't a physical "overwirte" (as with NMM - replacing one file with another of the same name), but the result is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckyduckyquackquack Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I'm having the same issue, and weirdly with one Profile in Vortex for my Frost Setup the Armour Workbenches work fine and don't crash the game. In my standard Fallout 4 profile, as soon as I try to use an Armour Workbench the game crashes and sometimes even looting Armour Items off corpses will crash the game. I have no idea what mod could be causing it and need some help maybe to find the offender. He is my current load order: # Automatically generated by VortexUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espArmorKeywords.esmBetter Manufacturing.espHUDFramework.esmSimSettlements.esmConcealedArmor.esmModularMilitaryBackpackWeightPatch.eslXDI.esm3dscopes.esp3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp3dscopes-framework.esp4 x XP.espAdvSettleTurretSet.espBetter Manufacturing - Valdacil Patch.espfree_downgrades.espConcealedArmor.espclothingoverhaul.espClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.espArmorsmith Extended.espAE-Armor and Weapon Paint Patch.espArmorsmith All DLCs Patch.espAEWS.espBTInteriors_Project.espBTInt_Optimization.espHAIA.espCombatZoneRestored.espFarm.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espAGOMBz.espAllSetsExtended.espASEFarHarbor.espsuperscrap.espsanguinaire - main.espBTInt_Menus.espNukaWorldRedRocketEx.espAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH_ASENW.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espAmazingFollowerTweaks_XDI_FIX.espCreationClubWeaponsImmersionPatchAllWeapons.espAntiMatDMGn2xRNGinc.espAutomatronUnlocked.espAutomatronUnlockedNukaParts.espAWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.espVanillaBootyOs.espBackpacks of the Commonwealth.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming - All DLC.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming - Automatron.espBetter Armour & Weapon Naming - Far Harbour.espManufacturingExtended.espBetter Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions.espBetter Vendor Stalls.espBetter Weapon Scrap.espCrafting Mastery.espstarlightwingfix.espCheatTerminal.espLR_Motorcycle.espSpectacleIslandBoat.espLR_LoneWandererFarHarbour.espLR_LoneWandererNukaWorld.espbridgefix.espBuildingGroundFix.espcc_PowerArmorSkin_Camo_StealthFix.espCCMMB AE Patch.espClassic And Funny Death Narriations (Loud).espCleanSettlement Beds.espCompanionsGoHome_A.espCraftable Adhesives.espCrafting Mastery - AM Replicas.espCrafting Mastery - Automatron.espCrafting Mastery - Base Replicas.espCrafting Mastery - Clutter Items.espCrafting Mastery - Clutter Items FH.espCrafting Mastery - Clutter Items NW.espCrafting Mastery - Far Harbor.espCrafting Mastery - FH Replicas.espCrafting Mastery - Legendary Extras.espCrafting Mastery - Nuka world.espCrafting Mastery - NW Replicas.espinfinite.espstarlightdoorfix.espVarmintRifle.espSelfRadio25.espCrudeBlowback.espCrudeBlowback - AWKCR.espCrudeBlowback-2xDMG.espdD-Enhanced Blood.espdD - MoreBloodandBits.espDLC items to manufacturing.espHandmadeRevolver.espDocDrumlin.espEasier Hacking - 1 Word.espEasy Lockpick.espEli Armor Compendium AE Patch.espEli_CC Tunnel Snakes Armour Patch.espEli_NukaPatch.espEli_WastelanderClothing.espEli_WastelanderClothing AE.espessentialtoprotected.espSettlement Resources Rebalanced.espFillBottleAnyDifficulty.espFO4Hotkeys.espFreeze.espGhoulIdleSound.espgrenadeflipoffsound.espGround_Vanilla.espGround_Farm.espGuaranteed Pickpocket.espHandmadeRevolver - AWKCR-VIS.espHandmadeRevolver-2xDMG.espHelmetToggle.espImmersive HUD.espIncreasedSettlerPopulation50.espLarger Shipments.espLongerPowerLinesInf.espmaintainradiosilence.espManufacturingExtendedFH.espMergedPatch0.espMilitary Backpack Weight Patch.espModdableRobotSettlers.espMoreDeadBodies.espno scope fade in.espNoMoreRandomTurretMks.espOutfitSwitcher.espPA-Quick Animations.espPip-Boy Flashlight.espPushAwayCompanions.espquadscrap.espRecycleBottles.espSalvageBeacons.espScrappableLegendariesUniquesFO4andDLCs.espscrappable_power_armor_parts.espScrappableBandanas.espSettlementMenuManager.espSettler Sandbox Overhaul.espSimple Food Fix.espSKKDynamicTimescale.espSKKQuantumStorage.espSKKScrapper.espSlowTime.espSpawnSettlerButtonSS.espSPECIAL-049.espTheFridgeWireless.espThirdPersonADS.espUCO_CCPatch_MorganSpaceSuit.espUncappedSettlementSurplus.espUNnaked Power Armor.espVarmintRifle - AWKCR-VIS.espVatsOverThere_IncreasedVATSRange_AimIncreaseHigh.espScrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.espFarm_CP_ScrapEverything_UE.espScrapUpdate - Ultimate.espScrapEverythingDisablerProject.espStartMeUp.espStartMeUpFarHarborPatch.espStartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfskin75 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 I would of course, combing through your mods and dependency rules. I would start with a core bunch of mods you know work and go from there... Also. Another life is a key tool. But there is no silver bullet for these things. I would alos fo research on the mods themselves and even suggest using papyrus to make patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 @ducky: If you experience crashes at armor workbenches and when looting some armors, the most probable cause is an armor mod with missing (or corrupt) meshes.Maybe you can get a clue, if you go through the armor pieces at the workbench one by one. Remember the piece, which makes the game crash and reinstall (or if that doesn't help: uninstall) the mod, from which the armor piece comes. Another way would be to compare the armor/clothing mods you have installed in your two profiles. For the beginning, consider anything installed in the working profile as "safe", focus on the mods you only have in your standard profile. If that method doesn't work, disable your armor/clothing mods (maybe 10 at a time) and test. As soon as you don't see crashes any more, re-enable the mods you disabled last one by one, until you find the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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