apellis Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 A copy of my post in the BGS Skyrim CK forum.... I'm having trouble reconciling the formulas shown on the USEP Wiki with actual in-game results.I tested with alchemy, speech, and smithing since they are easily tested.Test Conditions: Loaded Skyrim 1.5 with no mods - strictly vanilla (In fact, I uninstalled every mod so Skyrim was default)Deleted Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini and let the game generate new files.Started a new game and created the default "prisoner" by coc qasmoke at the menu screen.coc to whiterunarcadiascauldronAdded 100 blue mountain flowers and 100 butterfly wings to player inventory.Added 11 iron ingots and 11 leather strips.Added 10000 gold.No buffs or enchanments, just the "out of the box" level 1 Nord.Prior to my test, I loaded many games, always with the vanilla Skyrim default prisoner and manually increased alchemy, speechcraft, and smithing (player.advskill alchemy XXX) until I was able to determine the XP needed for the next level to 4 decimal places. Then I loaded yet another game, only this time I loaded the save I created with the default player with all the added inventory. According to the USEP:Skill Impove Mult * Skill level1.95 + Skill Improve Offsetis the xp needed to advance to the next level. Skill Use Mult * Base XP + Skill Use Offsetis the skill use xp Actual numbers:Alchemy, Level 15 to 16. It took 34 creations of restore health to advance.XP needed formula: (.16 * 151.95 + 65) = 379.4111XP required, manually: 505.8816XP gained formula: (.75 * (34*14) + 0) = 357 (Base XP = gold value of potions) Smithing, Level 20 to 21. It took 11 created iron daggers to advance.XP needed: (.25 * 201.95 + 300) = 386.0892XP required, manually: 386.0892XP gained: (1 * (25 + (3 * 101.95 ))) = 292.3753 (Base XP = 25 * (3 * item value1.95 ) Speech, Level 20 to 21. It took 5719 gold buying / selling transactions to advance.XP needed: (2 * 201.95 + 0) = 688.7133XP required, manually: 1913.0927XP gained: .36 * 5719 = 247.9368 (Base XP = gold used in transactions) Anyone have any ideas about why the discrepencies? As you can see, only some of the formula values are correct.Either there are other in-game factor(s) I'm not taking into consideraton or the formulas are wrong or possibly calculated differently for each skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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