Weapon Rack Woes

[bigv32]

In a house mod I have been working on, I seem to be having a lot of problems with some weapon racks. When I say weapon racks, I am referring to anything that holds weapons:

 

Weapon Racks (both the wooden standup ones and the ones that go on the walls) and even my display cases are having trouble.

 

I have found that I can place weapons on the racks, but here is a list of my problems and then some information:

 

1. This refers to the stand up ones that are literally wooden racks. When I place weapons in these, the weapons just hang in the air far away from the rack itself.

 

2. This problem exists for the weapon displays that hang on wall and have the plaques. I am also talking about both the single weapon displays and the shield/two weapon display varieties. When I hand a weapon/s and/or shield, most go on without issue (see next issue). However, when I leave the cell and come back, the weapons fall off the racks.

 

3. On the single wall display plaques, my axes do not display properly. They always appear to far down. This is the least important issue to me.

 

 

Info:

 

EDIT: I am using the coc console command at start up in order to get to the cells because they are not connected to the world yet.

 

1. All of these racks were copied by me from other mods. Also, I have copied racks from other vanilla cells and tested them without success.

 

2. Every rack I have copied I have tested in their original mod or vanilla cell and they worked fine (please see next piece).

 

3. All the racks I have copied I am using in another cell and they work without issue. It would appear the problem is related to this cell only or something is happening when I copy them.

 

4. I have personally made one of each of the three racks/plaques and they all have the same problem.

 

5. I have even tried to rotate the activator parts for all the racks by 0.1 on the z axis without success. I learned this trick from a similar issue I had with some bookshelves.

 

6. I can't stress this enough. All the racks that have been copied have also been tested in their original states. These racks also work in another cell but my problems exist when I move to the new cell.

 

 

Does anyone have any ideas?

Edited May 26, 2012 by bigv32

[LittleBaron]

bigv32:

 

I'm just replying with this suggestion b/c it's not 100% clear in your post how you are copying all the various parts of the racks. They basically function in three parts: Step one, make the player drop their equipped weapon. Step Two, halt the havok properties of the weapon so it will float in mid-air. Step Three, Move the weapon's center to the appropriate node attached to the rack mesh, matching it's position and rotation.

 

Here is a useful mod that put all the working parts for each type of rack in an empty cell for easy copying and pasting, just in case you are missing a few bits:

 

Weapon Rack Etc Resource Mod

 

 

Another possible issue is that the way the vanilla racks are scripted, the player was expected to be in another cell when they were enabled in whatever 'home' cell they were in. If you were testing your mod with a save where your PC was already inside your custom home, the scripts will not work correctly and odd things will happen. You might need to try your home mod again with a clean save that you make in some other cell and/or outside your home cell.

[uk33]

I never have trouble with weapon racks, I just make one section then highlight the rack & trigger and duplicate then slide it along the x/ y axis until it lines up then rinse and repeat. One thing I have found is when you are putting the trigger over the rack, it is better to double click the rack and the trigger so both tabs are open, then copy and paste the x,y,z co-ords from rack to trigger, rather than drag the trigger over the rack. Now and again they bug out for me if they are too close to a wall, but that happens rarely.

 

Dagger display cases I find I have to raise the trigger slightly, but when it comes to plaques .... holy crap I have got so frustrated with those things before now, the single plaques work when they feel like it and the sword/ shield plaques NEVER work for me. I read somewhere that plaques are very temperamental depending on what axis they are on, but I have never been able to get them to work no matter the axis.

[bigv32]

thanks for the suggestions. I will look at the mod you recommended.

 

Also, I am coc into the cells everytime I start the game up to test it faster. This way I never have an actual save.