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placing trees in whiterun, getting them to appear from outside also


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i want to create a simple mod in which i place a few pine trees inside whiterun and they appear from outside whiterun, from up close and from a distance, as would lods, although I think b/c of game engine limitations, I wouldn't be able to generate lods.

 

i can get them inside no problem, but they don't show up outside. so i'm guessing I also have to place them outside, yeah? like duplicate trees? i don't suppose there's a way through xedit to duplicate the tree inside whiterun worldspace to appear in tamriel worldspace in the same spot?? anyone know about that?

 

i know that if you generate lods for trees placed in tamriel worldspace which lie in the whiterun worldspace, the lods show up when inside the whiterun worldspace. so I want to avoid that. I believe you can edit the tree records of the outside trees...XESP - enable parent, and enter code 0x00000014, (is that right???) so that lodgen doesn't generate a lod for it, then set the outside tree record to be persistent and is full lod, something like that. does anyone know about this? am I on the right track?

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I had them as full lod but they don't show. they're in the whiterunworld, so I think they also have to be in tamrielworld, which means I have to place duplicates. beautiful whiterun uses aspens, and I prefer pines, so that's why i'm making my own. and also, beautiful whiterun's trees can't be seen from outside whiterun, so it has the same problem i'm trying to solve

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