Missing colors from 1st person animations; hands, Pipboy, weapons

[CIBtheGhost]

Howdy good folks of Nexus forums. I have got an odd problem. One that I'm sure is mod related, but shows up with or without mods enabled. Colors. All of them. On my hands. On my Guns. On my Pipboy. Well, to be exact, no colors. Black and white as 1950s television.

 

I've been through all the archive invalidation steps, verified files, re-installed mods, messed with settings, deactivate and reactivated, repeated all the previous in a blind attempt to fix it again, and I cannot get this bug fixed. As I said, its even present with no mods active. Part of me wants to blame NMM. It seems to be fickle. And buggy. But, I've gone through everything and installed loose with the same outcome. Alas, I am also fickle. And buggy.

 

I have a feeling its a mesh/texture issue and animation relationship. Like maybe z-fighting from two competing textures, but I can't figure out how to go about troubleshooting it. I've been through the actor textures files and they seem ok. But the problem only exists in first person, and only exists when the game isn't paused by the in game menu. As soon as I pause in game, the colors come back. Wild Wasteland weirdness.

 

Anyways, pics below along with system specs (no slouch here), and the load order which doesn't seem to matter since I can disable them all and get the same result.

 

For those who want to latch onto the "omgz such mods so load order", most of the weapons, pipboy, and bodymods were tossed on in an attempt to overwrite whatever problem exists (of course with no success since I'm here).

 

Thanks for reading :smile:

 

Screenshots

 

 

 

System Specs

 

i7 4790k @ 4Ghz
32 Gb Ram
2x256Gb SSD Raid 0
2x GTX 1080 Ti SLI
3840x2160 60hz
Post processing:
ENBoost memory manager
ReShade (color correction only)
nVidia Profile Inspector SLI compatibility settings, transparency SSAAx8, Anisotropic Filtering
Ultra settings in game w HBAO+ and max draw distance

 

 

Mod Load Order

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
8 8 TrueStormsFO4.esm
9 9 ACS Master.esm
10 a HUDFramework.esm
11 b SimSettlements.esm
12 c Loads.esm
13 d ArmorKeywords.esm
14 e NewCalibers.esp
15 f Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
16 10 PipBoyCustomisationFramework.esm
17 11 Pipboy_Customization_Framework.esm
254 FE 0 LMNSOverlays.esp
18 12 LooksMenu.esp
19 13 KSHairdos.esp
20 14 ExtendedHairColors.esp
21 15 Lots More Facial Hair.esp
22 16 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
23 17 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
24 18 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
25 19 VHCE.esp
26 1a KSHairdos_oel.esp
27 1b mcgFemaleWalk.esp
28 1c spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp
29 1d CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
30 1e FlirtyCommonwealthFemale.esp
31 1f Move (Get Out the Way).esp
32 20 VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
33 21 DiamondCityOverhaul.esp
34 22 ReGrowth Overhaul 10.esp
35 23 Lower Gun Timer.esp
36 24 detailedferalghouls.esp
37 25 Docile Radstags.esp
38 26 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
39 27 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
40 28 DeadBodyCollision.esp
41 29 WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
42 2a dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
43 2b dD - Limited Blood Decals.esp
44 2c dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
45 2d MegaExplosions_x2.esp
46 2e Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
47 2f dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
48 30 dD-Reduced Explosion Force.esp
49 31 Swinging Meat Bags.esp
50 32 PD_VisualReload.esp
51 33 LongRangeBulletHoles.esp
52 34 CBBE.esp
53 35 BTInteriors_Project.esp
54 36 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
55 37 FunctionalDisplays.esp
56 38 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
57 39 BTInt_Optimization.esp
58 3a Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp
59 3b FogOut - Interiors - All DLC.esp
60 3c CCOFO4 - Traits and More Perks.esp
61 3d CrimeTown.esp
62 3e AlootHomePlate.esp
63 3f TrainBar.esp
64 40 MostlyFemale.esp
65 41 SSNPC - DCResidentsAIO.esp
66 42 mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-eng.esp
67 43 mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-ru.esp
68 44 Rebuilt_TaffingtonBoathouse.esp
69 45 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
70 46 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
71 47 Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
72 48 Clean Water - Tropical.esp
73 49 No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
74 4a Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp
75 4b Realistic Roads 2.0 Black.esp
76 4c GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
77 4d SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp
78 4e Lore Friendly Posters.esp
79 4f LoreFriendlySurvivalChems.esp
80 50 OSHA_Signs.esp
81 51 Vivid Fallout - All in One - 4k.esp
82 52 CustomCamera.esp
83 53 Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp
84 54 Immersive HUD.esp
85 55 FogOut - Exterior - All DLC - Darker Nights - Level 2 - Dark Sky - No24-7.esp
86 56 Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
87 57 Fr4nssonsLightTweaksNightVisionFIX.esp
88 58 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
89 59 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
90 5a TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
91 5b TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
92 5c Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
93 5d RRTV_GoodneighborCondo.esp
94 5e Diamond City Enhanced.esp
95 5f SanctuaryHotSpringHome.esp
96 60 CheatTerminal.esp
97 61 Eli_Bunker.esp
98 62 CatMeat.esp
99 63 NWTransCenLOD.esp
100 64 StarlightLOD.esp
101 65 MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
102 66 AutomatronCountyCrossingFix.esp
103 67 dD - MoreBloodandBits.esp
104 68 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
105 69 JetfuelRadio.esp
106 6a DnxTattoos.esp
107 6b LMBTOverlays.esp
108 6c The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp
109 6d The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
110 6e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
111 6f EAMR.esp
112 70 CBBECompanions.esp
113 71 BetterSettlers.esp
114 72 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
115 73 HidePipboy.esp
116 74 Ballistic Under-Armor 1.3.esp
117 75 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
118 76 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
119 77 Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp
120 78 DelyteC&E.esp
121 79 Eli_Gunslinger.esp
122 7a HN66Fo4_Rings.esp
123 7b HN66Fo4_EarringsV1.esp
124 7c Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp
125 7d ImmersiveFastTravel.esp
126 7e IFT_Automatron.esp
127 7f IFT_NoFuel.esp
128 80 IFT_NoQuest.esp
129 81 IFT_Worker.esp
130 82 VegetableOil.esp
131 83 UNnaked Power Armor.esp
132 84 Danse GTFO Power Armor.esp
133 85 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
134 86 SSNPC - KelloggNEW.esp
135 87 EFF.esp
136 88 Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp
137 89 155mm Howitzer M1.esp
138 8a ACS Master.esp
139 8b ACS Paintings.esp
140 8c AutomatronSecuritron.esp
141 8d EferasBetterBeds.esp
142 8e BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
143 8f BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
144 90 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
145 91 BS NS BFS Merged Patch.esp
146 92 BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
147 93 BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp
148 94 BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp
149 95 BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
150 96 BusySettlers.esp
151 97 Brahmin Watertrough.esp
152 98 BrahminFeederFull.esp
153 99 CleanSettlement.esp
154 9a cartman1975_concrete-glass.esp
155 9b CraftableAmmo.esp
156 9c CraftableAmmo_plus.esp
157 9d BalconySupports.esp
158 9e ZerasPaintings.esp
159 9f FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp
160 a0 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp
161 a1 Housekeeping.esp
162 a2 Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp
163 a3 BetterShackBridges.esp
164 a4 IncreasedSettlerPopulation100.esp
165 a5 LooksMirror.esp
166 a6 EvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.esp
167 a7 Movable Power Armor.esp
168 a8 pylonscheap.esp
169 a9 RealTroughs.esp
170 aa SolarPower.esp
171 ab VerticalConduits.esp
172 ac Wall Oil Lamps.esp
173 ad AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
174 ae SimHomestead.esp
175 af SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
176 b0 SettlementMenuManager.esp
177 b1 VisibleWeapons.esp
178 b2 Holsters & sheaths.esp
179 b3 PipboyRemover.esp
180 b4 PBT_RoN.esp
181 b5 No more monochrome - Color setting for the Pipboy!.esp
182 b6 Build High - Builder's Patch.esp
183 b7 Pip-Boy Flashlight - Hide Pipboy.esp
184 b8 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
185 b9 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
186 ba SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
187 bb Binoculars.esp
188 bc M9.esp
189 bd CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
190 be GS Benelli M3S90.esp
191 bf McMillanCS5.esp
192 c0 McMillan CS5 - See Through Combat Scopes Patch.esp
193 c1 RSh-12.esp
194 c2 RU556.esp
195 c3 RU556AWKCR.esp
196 c4 F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
197 c5 Modern Weapon Replacer - Benelli M3.esp
198 c6 Modern Weapon Replacer - McMillan CS5.esp
199 c7 Modern Weapon Replacer - RSh-12.esp
200 c8 Modern Weapon Replacer - RU556.esp
201 c9 Modern Weapon Replacer - Service Rifle Redux.esp
202 ca P99.esp
203 cb Modern Weapon Replacer - Walther P99.esp
204 cc Friffy_Holstered Weapons.esp
205 cd 3dscopes-framework.esp
206 ce 3dscopes.esp
207 cf 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp
208 d0 10mmRevolver.esp
209 d1 9x39Project.esp
210 d2 9x39ProjectAWKCR.esp
211 d3 ASVektor.esp
212 d4 AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp
213 d5 Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp
214 d6 BattleRifle.esp
215 d7 DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp
216 d8 Max_VHW.esp
217 d9 CS5 Apparel.esp
218 da MikeMooresMCAM.esp
219 db mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp
220 dc SCAR-L.esp
221 dd M14.esp
222 de M2216.esp
223 df GaussRifleMk2.esp
224 e0 GaussRifleMk2 - AWKCR.esp
225 e1 Extended weapon mods.esp
226 e2 Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
227 e3 Crafting Workbench.esp
228 e4 Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
229 e5 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
230 e6 Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
231 e7 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
232 e8 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
233 e9 Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
234 ea Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp
235 eb Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp
236 ec Weaponsmith - Super Mutant Redux Patch.esp
237 ed Weaponsmith Extended Contraptions.esp
238 ee WeaponsHD.esp
239 ef ArmorKeywords-Paint.esp
240 f0 Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
241 f1 NewCalibers_extendedWeaponMods.esp
242 f2 PBCF_Seed.esp
243 f3 Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp
244 f4 Armorsmith Extended.esp
245 f5 Clothing Of The Commonwealth.esp
246 f6 Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp
247 f7 WarbyParkerSunglasses.esp

 

[Arneercool]

You probably have something weird going on in your ini.

 

1. Remove all 3 of them from their location in Documents>mygames>fallout.

 

2. Verify your game in steam.

 

3. Where you just found your .ini in the first place, there are now only 2.

Fallout4.ini and fallout4prefs.ini.

 

4. Copy one of them and rename the new one fallout4costum.ini

 

5. Delete everything inside the new copy,and put in these lines:

 

 

[Archive]

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=STRINGS/
[Display]
iLocationX=0
iLocation Y=0

 

 

6. Open nexus mod manager and in the tool section in the top, choose 'Purge all unmanaged files.'

 

That should solve carryovers , and you can begin anew. Actually, only do this if you intend to re-install all mods and start over, as i can not promise that a savegame or mod will continue to work as intended, but it will probably give you a clean sheet and solve this issue.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Arneercool

[CIBtheGhost]

Danke. I'm definitely missing the strings value in my ini. I was using bethini, but it seems to only do some of the work its supposed to. I should probably just download some ini presets for a high end gaming rig.

 

 

The purge unmanaged files should also be very helpful for next time I break something (which will likely be this afternoon). I was doing them one mod at a time lol. Appreciate the response. 2 more pieces to the mod puzzle pile!

[CIBtheGhost]

Sadly, it did not work. Ironically, NMM cleaned out all of Bethesda's crappy high def textures DLC lol.

 

But got everything lined up in my ini files, game folders are clean, everything got re-installed. I even just used a "minimum to make my character" mod load and the hands textures were black and white when messing with Shaun after character creation.

 

But the two tips were excellent and have been added to the arsenal I'm building to deal with all the funny business modding Fallout 4 requires.

 

It's really making me miss the days of problem: "mY PiPboyz is teh borked!!! Plz Halpz!!!" solution: go to data\textures and delete pipboy3000 folder heh. God bless FNV.

 

Soooooo. If there are any other fun tricks to try, let me have em!

[Arneercool]

I'm stumped. I was sure that would flush out the problem.

 

If a complete reinstall and a purge doesn't help then maybe the issue is outside the game, gtx drivers maybe? I'm guessing at this point.

 

Have you tried deleting everything? And i mean everything except windows and steam itself, and do a complete reinstall of all tools, tweaks and main game?

 

If i was stuck at this point, i would be furious, and nothing more than a complete purge of windows would do.

[CIBtheGhost]

Yeah. It's lookin' like a purge is next steps. Not windows. But Steam and FO4 and NMM and all the mod packages. Not just an uninstall, but delete all with a flamethrower.

 

Drivers are up to date. I think Steam is holding onto something it shouldn't and then dumping it into my game or I'm using a mod that somehow got changed when I looked up conflicts in F4Edit.

 

Thanks for the suggestions though. Silver linings: I'm getting really comfortable with ALL the mod tools lol.