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Random CTDs not sure what the cause is


rabbitpower95

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Ive just started a fresh game and followed an installation guide that some guy created with his own stable mod list, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17334 however i still get random CTD which cannot be replicated, they seem sporadic.

 

I followed his load order as close as i could and installed every mod in the same order, ive used LOOT to sort the load order and im using mod organizer. The crashes vary from walking around the wilderness to entering buildings, i could play the game for an hour and not get a single crash then next time i boot up i could crash within 5 minutes of playing. Ive used SSEDIT to clean the master files and any mods that were showing ITM files or other discrepancies.

 

Here is my load order:

*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*BSAssets.esm
*LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
*BSHeartland.esm
*DynDOLOD.esm
*BS_DLC_patch.esp
*ApachiiHair.esm
*ApachiiHairFemales.esm
*ApachiiHairMales.esm
*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
*Cutting Room Floor.esp
*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
*SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp
*Footprints.esp
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*AHZmoreHUD.esp
*iHUD.esp
*Dawnguard Delayed - Level 30.esp
*Dragonborn Delayed - After Alduin's Bane.esp
*FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
*EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
*Whiterun Forest Borealis.esp
*ELFX - Exteriors.esp
*S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
*CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
*Snazzy Furniture and Clutter Overhaul.esp
*SFCO - LotD Patch.esp
*SAFO.esp
*Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
*WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
*EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
*DBM_ISC_Patch.esp
*Potions.esp
*OBIS SE.esp
*OBIS Loot SE.esp
*CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
*GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
*LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
*Weathered Road Signs.esp
*CWIELnFXSEPatch.esp
*HearthfireMultiKid.esp
*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
*skyBirds_SSE.esp
*BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
*Ashbound.esp
*QuickStart3_NoHelmet.esp
*Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp
*Sjel Blad Castle_SE.esp
*ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
*DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
*Immersive Weapons.esp
*Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
*dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
*ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
*MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
*TKAA.esp
*AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
*SFCO - Immersive College of Winterhold Patch.esp
*SAFO - Awesome Potions.esp
*SAFO - SkyTEST RAP.esp
*Better Vampires.esp
*Better Vampire NPCs.esp
*No Vampire Cure on Rumors.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
*honedmetal.esp
*AFT - USSEP Patch.esp
*AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp
*BloodmoonRising.esp
*EconomyOverhaulandOrdinatorPatch.esp
*Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
*DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
*KS Dragon Overhaul.esp
*DeadlyCombat.esp
*DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp
UIExtensions.esp
*DarkerNights-BeyondSkyrimBruma.esp
*Vivid WeathersSE.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
*SOTGenesisMod.esp
*BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
*Cloaks.esp
*Inigo.esp
*Afterlife.esp
*LostTreasures.esp
*EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
*SFCO - CRF Patch.esp
*CWICRFSEPatch.esp
*Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
*Cloaks of the Nords for Guards.esp
*DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
*DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
*OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE Replacer.esp
*DBM_SAFO_Patch.esp
*DBM_OpulentREP_Patch.esp
*fallentreebridgesSSE.esp
*WindstadMine.esp
*Dawnguard Sentries SE.esp
*EmbersHD.esp
*Immersive Patrols II.esp
*Weathered Road Signs - CRF.esp
*SofiaFollower.esp
*DBM_IW_Patch.esp
*DBM_IA_Patch.esp
*InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp
*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
*iNeed.esp
*DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
*Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
*notice board.esp
*DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
*MoreWerewolves.esp
*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
*CWIOOSEPatchReplacer.esp
*stonhenge + hilltops.esp
*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
*SFCO - ELFX Patch.esp
*HoldBorderBanners.esp
*AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp
*OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
*Skysan_Icicle.esp
*AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp
*BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
*Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp
*Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
*OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
*iNeed Bruma Water Patch.esp
*LeftHandRings.esp
*Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
*HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
*BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp
*Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp
*HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp
*LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp
*RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
*UnreadBooksGlow.esp
*ArcheryV2.esp
*Archery_Bruma_Patch.esp
*Teach Followers Spells.esp
*Higher Bounty Rewards.esp
*AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
*Differently Ebony.esp
*aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
*Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
*zzArmormashups.esp
*Wildcat-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
*Unique Uniques.esp
*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
*dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
*FNIS.esp
*RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp
*Animations.esp
*VioLens SE.esp
*DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
*CharacterMakingExtender.esp
*Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
*Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
*Elegant Beauty Stunning Eyes Remastered.esp
*BlendedRoads.esp
*MajesticMountains.esp
*SunDaytimeNorth_MM_default.esp
*DustEffectsSSE.esp
*Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp
*Bent Pines.esp
*AMatterOfTime.esp
*Genesis Surface Spawns.esp
*Elemental Eyes.esp
*Elemental_Staffs.esp
*USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
*Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
*Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
*SAFO - Imperious.esp
*ECE Imperious Patch.esp
*Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
*EEKs Arcadia's - ICAIO.esp
*RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
*Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - High Interior, High Exterior.esp
*SFCO - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
*RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
*ELFXEnhancer.esp
*Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
*My Home Is Your Home.esp
*Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
*PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
*PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp
*PCE - RDO Patch.esp
*PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp
*PCE - SFCO Patch.esp
*PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp
*tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
*tpos_immersive_clit_patch_01.esp
*tpos_crf_patch_01.esp
*tpos_crf_ic_fix_patch_01.esp
*tpos_legacyofthedragonborn_patch_01.esp
*Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp
*IW_Diversity_Patch.esp
*KS Hairdo's.esp
*Bijin NPCs.esp
*Bijin Warmaidens.esp
*Bijin Wives.esp
*Shiva's Vanilla Clothing Replacer.esp
*DBM_Namira_Patch.esp
*Immersive Music.esp
SimpleOutfitManager.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
*dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
*dD-No Screen Blood.esp
*dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
*SFCO - Multiple Adoptions Patch.esp
*OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
*TheLily.esp
*Order My Items.esp
Abduction.esp
*IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
*LTAOC_LightGlassArmor.esp
*Black Mage Armor SE.esp
*PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp
*PCE - ELFXEnhancer Patch.esp
*Carry Weight x100.esp
holycow.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
*DynDOLOD.esp

 

Here is my papyrus log file right before crash:
[ (6A02A971)].CWDisableDuringSiegeScript.OnCellLoad() - "CWDisableDuringSiegeScript.psc" Line 107
[07/29/2018 - 10:12:12PM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].ks_DragonCombatScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?
[None].ks_DragonCombatScript.OnUpdate() - "ks_DragonCombatScript.psc" Line 61
[07/29/2018 - 10:12:12PM] Error: Cannot call IsInDialogueWithPlayer() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[JJSofiaMainQuestDialogue (6E020467)].JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.GetPlayerDialogueTarget() - "JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 53
[JJSofiaMainQuestDialogue (6E020467)].JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 16
[07/29/2018 - 10:12:12PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp22"
stack:
[JJSofiaMainQuestDialogue (6E020467)].JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.GetPlayerDialogueTarget() - "JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 53
[JJSofiaMainQuestDialogue (6E020467)].JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "JJSofiaQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 16

Also have a crash report generated via SKSE with the exact moment it crashed with the address it crashed on:
EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 0000026726b1eac0
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000008
Parameter[1]: 0000026726b1eac0
Attempt to execute non-executable address 0000026726b1eac0
Sorry for the long post but any help would be appreciated.
Edited by rabbitpower95
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  • 4 weeks later...

Hello.

I was also in trouble with Crashes (to Desktop) for a while and my experience was that:

 

After I updated Skyrim SE to Version 1.5.39 and SKSE64 to 2.0.7, I had some random and some reproducible Crashes to Desktop with NO Error-Messages or noticeable Log-Entries in Papyrus-Logs, Steam-Logs or Windows 10 Event-Viewer.

Some of them occured while fast travelling, some while loading a Savegame and some just during Gameplay...

So it was like Hell to find out the Reason(s) why.

After 3 Days Odyssey of searching the Web and trying this and that, I finally found a (simple) Solution that worked just fine for me:

 

Do NOT clean the native Update.esm and DLC-Files (Dawnguard.esm, Dragonborn.esm and HearthFires.esm) with TES5Edit (SSEEdit) !!!

 

After I restored the original (dirty) Files from Backup, I never got a Crash or any other Error with my Setup!

 

Maybe this Solution is helpful for some other afflicted Users too...

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That mod set plugin has it's own forum under Posts, which looks active and well-supported. In the sticky, the author says he'd like to know about bugs. He also says version 9 is stable, implying that version 10 is not maybe?

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