Sapphire (NPC)

[Kyrenjai]

I have used console to get to her but was no way out--door is locked and requires a key. How can we get out to see where this place is? I even asked her to unlock the door but she said....no can do lol Thnx for the bring her to me command....wait wait :P I could change time (T) and c if door opens??? Sometimes i just totally miss the obvious. TY TY Edited May 30, 2012 by Kyrenjai

[xlcr]

@Kyrenjai, oh crap sorry, i meant to include a tip to use console command toggle 'TCL' (toggle collision on/off).

Whenever you use the TCL toggle in the console window be sure you clear the window of any NPC/other RefID that

you may have selected previously in there..

Anyway, use TCL to pass thru the locked door; or, you can just select to door while in console and then type 'UNLOCK'.

When you're finished with TCL just type TCL again in console to toggle collision back ON like normal.

 

Reason I suggest using TCL is with UNLOCK there's the risk you'll be detected by witnesses (guards, chickens, whatever),

you could cast Life Detect and sweep the area to determine if it's clear first i guess.

 

Anyway, please post back here when you figure out who's house Sapphire strangely ended up being stuck in,

this is not the first time i have heard about this kind of thing happening with NPC's/followers.

Seems like somekind of Skyrim AI/quest script may have hiccupped with Sapphire.

I haven't started the Thieves Guild quests yet, looking forward to it.

 

To get Sapphire out of there, be sure to travel somewhere else, use console commands:

PRID 000C19A5

moveto player

 

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console

 

tcl Toggle collision (clipping, noclip) Essentially, you can fly. Point in a direction and move wherever you want. You can also move through buildings and even the landscape. This command is targeted; if no actor is selected it will turn off collision for the player while keeping other actors stuck in place. It is possible to deselect any target reference by double clicking the same object or area in the landscape, which will cause "tcl" to default itself to target the player.

 

unlock Unlocks the targeted object. Unlocks the targeted door, container, etc., including "Requires Key"-level locked objects.

 

by the way, using TCL or UNLOCK as cheats to progress thru a quest/location is not recommended, doing so will often

cause the game script to malfunction because you didn't trigger an event/something properly. just say'n lol.

Edited May 30, 2012 by xlcr

[Kyrenjai]

It's all that--not recommended console-use stuff that keeps me from trying to do this...lol. But I surely do wanna know where it is she is. Still debating on trying this or not. U think it'd b safe just to move to her and unlock door? Uuumm--no way to know, is there? Let me ponder this some more. Thnx

[xlcr]

@Kyrenjai, well, you seem to have become borderline obsessed with Sapphire lol.

ummm, assuming you did not already use mods/console commands that change NPC's like Sapphire,

i would be more concerned about why her AI script seems to be malfunctioning causing her to be

stuck in some room in Whiterun..

 

Anyway, you must be curious who's house/location that is too right?

just make a savegame where ever you are now, teleport to her location, unlock door to see where in Whiterun it goes,

then simply reload the old savegame.

 

I suspect the only way you're going to get Sapphire out of there is use the console commands everyone told you about.

Majority of Sapphire's normal routine is hanging out at the Riften Bee & Barb Inn or Ragged Flagon Cistern,

what's she doing in Whiterun? I have a bad feeling she might be broken dude..

You may want to consider going back to an earlier savegame that has Sapphire behaving normally.

[Kyrenjai]

I used TCL to go thru door...lol I was like in the air and could only c the building she was in..is that the way TCL works? I tried unlock but it wouldn't work. I just gave up. Thought, what the hey--I need to buy Breezehome anyways. And low and behold..there she was!! But the building I saw with TCL was not what it appears in-game. I got her to follow me around and we even went and did a quest together. Just as we were about to exit Breezehome--in walks Lydia!! Talk about messed-up scripting as u guys mentioned earlier. Sapphire is indeed bugged but will do as commands say but some of speech is not there. Funny though--until today I had nvr owned Breezehome or any home. And I nvr offerred to marry either of them. Sapphire wound up wearing gear I have.. but nvr even gave her yet?? There were dialogue exchanges (very funny exchanges too) between Sapphire and Lydia I'd nvr heard. Oh wells---I got 2 Sweetheart roommates xD. :P (to b continued)-- too funny PS--I've alrdy deleted 1 toon and my best save is at least 10 lvls back--no can do on deleting this 1 (unless game finally crashes)--note to self--leave well-enough alone xD

[xlcr]

@Kyrenjai, hi, yep TCL toggles OFF collision w/objects+gravity too somewhat i guess; so,

you'll get an odd flying sensation moving lol.

Don't toggle TCL back ON if you're high up in the air or underground, you'll fall or get stuck.

 

Well, guess the identity of the strange building/space where Sapphire got stuck remains a mystery

'stacks of wood and hay all around in it, double bed at ground level, 1 bed in the loft' oh well.

 

Sapphire might be a little bugged as a follower but should basically function i hope, she's also a minor character,

did you already finish a Thieves Guild quest specific to her called 'Stabilized' before making her a follower?

 

I suspect you might be using one of those mods that give you an 'alternate start' in the game which is

why you're dealing with Sapphire so early in the game?

Anyway, glad you got Sapphire back and Lydia as a roommate also.

[Kyrenjai]

The mysterious building is the Breezehome I'm assuming. Guess that's the way it looks b4 puchasing upgrades. And yup, after I asked Lydia to follow---Sapphire "acted" like she was gonna follow--all the commands came up but she just went and sat down in another chair. I did have othe Sapphire quests when I was playing 2 different characters at once. I deleted my female toon and deactivated/deleted all the mods associated with my female toon. But some musta have remained. What might I do to get Sapphire and Lydia to go "home"? ie--get out of my Breezehome--I didn't marry either of them. Haven't married any1 yet. TY I have not done "Stabilized". Edited June 1, 2012 by Kyrenjai

[xlcr]

@Kyrenjai, suggest being careful installing/uninstalling any follower mods if you're using an existing gamesave.

Followers can get permanently screwed AI scripts and histories if you do not dismiss them first and make a gamesave

prior to changing any follower mod. I usually go as far as to escort them home before dismissing them so they're safe.

 

I have little experience using console faction commands (if this is what you did..) to force an NPC to become a follower

or what this does to the follower system.

 

Anyway, i just hope your Sapphire is not messed up and there are no bugs embedded into your gamesave at this point.

You can read about Sapphire and find a link to her quest 'Stabilized' here if you want to:

 

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Sapphire_%28NPC%29

 

Edited June 2, 2012 by xlcr

[Kyrenjai]

@Kyrenjai, suggest being careful installing/uninstalling any follower mods if you're using an existing gamesave.

Followers can get permanently screwed AI scripts and histories if you do not dismiss them first and make a gamesave

prior to changing any follower mod. I usually go as far as to escort them home before dismissing them so they're safe.

I have no experience using console faction commands to make an NPC a follower does to the follower system.

Anyway, i just hope your Sapphire is not messed up and there are no bugs embedded into your gamesave at this point.

You can read about Sapphire and find a link to her quest 'Stabilized' here if you want to:

 

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Sapphire_%28NPC%29

 

Sapphire is indeed messed up--she won't follow even though the drop-down window commands come up. I personally escorted Lydia back to the Jarl Home and had her "sit". She was still there sitting when I picked her back up this morning. At least I can get her outa Breezehome. What if I kill Sapphire? Think she might reset? I can't get that prid command to do anything though. Yes, I did do the Shadr debt quest.

Edited June 2, 2012 by Kyrenjai

[xlcr]

@Kyrenjai, hi, looks like we're talking about the same follower issues in two separate threads,

the other being your 'Delphine's Followers?' thread.

 

Please note, selecting dialog command 'sit' for follower Lydia in Dragonreach (her previous home) is not the same as dismissing her; also,

after you purchase Breezehome, this automatically becomes Lydia's new home base as your dedicated housecarl ever since you've been appointed by

Whiterun's Jarl Balgruuf as the Thane of Whiterun after completing quest 'Dragon Rising'.

 

To dismiss a follower you must select dialog 'It's time we parted ways',

selecting 'sit' only instructs them to wait which has a time limit, they're still your follower.

Same goes for all followers including Sapphire that you somehow forced into becoming your follower with mods or console faction commands i suspect.

 

Anyway, at this point I doubt using console commands like trying to delete/respawn Sapphire/Lydia or reseting their AI will completely fix them.

Mostly because their scripted histories and currently active AI's are probably bugged and permanently embedded in your savegames.

I also have no idea what follower mods you're using or what follower console commands you've used before.

It seems you may have failed to properly dismiss your followers prior to installing/uninstalling

follower mods or using console commands which can screw things up.

 

If your heart is set on Sapphire as a follower I would probably consider starting a fresh new game or

using an earlier savegame prior to messing around with mods/console.

Also research how best you make Sapphire a follower (mods or console).

Edited June 2, 2012 by xlcr