AstralFire Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Boethiah's all about assassinations and secret plots. If they're just using sneak on that armor to trigger an AoE damage aura that screws with actually doing assassination business, I have no idea what to think of that. It seems silly and poorly thought out. I have never had the armor myself. I killed the whole camp to avoid the risk of them luring any innocents there to sacrifice them. You can still complete the quest, Boethiah is a Daedric Prince after all, and actually thanks you for killing all those 'weak' worshipers ... Just activate the shrine and you'll still be given the quest ... I um... I don't want anything to do with Boethiah, is the point. Meridia, Sanguine and Sheogorath are the only Daedric Princes I ran into that didn't tick me off. I would never sacrifice anyone to her, follower or otherwise. Edited June 5, 2012 by AstralFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stemin Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Like I mentioned somewhere before, I always speak for myself. Like anyone, I think. If someone says that something is something, it doesn't mean that it's indeed so, it means only that this "someone" thinks this "something" is that "something". I thought it was obvious. Sorry. You seem to make assumptions quite often. It's not obvious, or understood. Phrases like "In my opinion", or "I think..." are part of the english language for a reason. A message board is text. There is no tone. Choosing not to use these phrases can make a post seem extremely rude, and that's just the tip of the ice burg. And I always thought that IMO (and IMHO) is just a fugure of speech, cause everything you say is only your oppinion. Noone knows the absolute truth. Well, noone in our world. I know that if I stick my hand in water, it will get wet. I know that if I put my hand in fire, it will get hot. I know that if a dog gets pregnant, it won't give birth to a cat. There are plenty of absolute truths. As for your questions... Both in Morrowind and Oblivion both Archery (or Marksmanship, or whatever it was called) and Light Armor were skills of Thief (Stealth or whatever) category. That's why Arches there were supposed to wear Light Armor. This isn't Morrowind. This isn't Oblivion. There are no classes. As for Archery without sneak mode... Well, I've killed an Ancient Dragon with the Sparks spell once. It was Vanilla Sparks spell, not some modded version. Back in Morrowind I killed a giant netch with a fork. There's a number of ways to entertain youself. But I always preferred (and still do) to remember Sun Tzu and his phrase: "I've heared of many swift victorious campaigns, but I've never heared of prolonged victorious ones". Sorry, if I don't quote him correctly - I've read his work in my native language, of course. PS: And I've made Ebony Mail light in my private mod anyway. :wink: I would hate to make an assumption, so please feel free to clarify if I'm off base here, but I interpret the anecdotes above to mean that you believe that using heavy armor and archery is going to take longer to win in combat. The whole point of the perk system is to do away with the old classes of Morrowind and Oblivion and make them optional. Your continued references to previous games are not helping your case any. There are perks in the Heavy Armor tree that allow you to sneak quite easily. There is no reason you have to use light armor to be effective as an archer. In fact, there's no penalties at all for using Heavy Armor as an archer. In fact, there are sneak perks in the heavy armor tree, that you could combine with the archery perks in the sneak tree, to quite effectively merge all three categories into a very good archer who sneaks in heavy armor, or you could choose to not sneak at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy8 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 You seem to make assumptions quite often. It's not obvious, or understood. Phrases like "In my opinion", or "I think..." are part of the english language for a reason. A message board is text. There is no tone. Choosing not to use these phrases can make a post seem extremely rude, and that's just the tip of the ice burg. Well, let's try it Your way. I IMHO "think" that you are IMHO "wrong". I don't "know" about IMHO you, or IMHO Perraine, but I am IMHO not some ***k** "lawyer", and I "didn't think" we are IMHO in some ***k** "court". I "thought" IMHO I used "words" like "I think" quite IMHO often, but I also "always" thought that IMHO the HO of it means "Humble Oppinion", and "everything" everyone tells is IMHO his or her "oppinion". "Forgive me" if I'm IMHO "wrong". Besides, I IMHO think that you "may address" your post to IMHO "yourself", cause "you seem to make assumptions" about me in it. Don't "know" about you, but I IMHO live not in U... some country where IMHO any "piece of hysterical *h**" can "drag" you to the "court" for IMHO any single word that "piece" considered an "offence". And I IMHO am glad I don't "live" there! I am very IMHO glad that I can call a cat a "cat" and not IMHO some "little domestic furry animal" because some "hysterical" or simply IMHO "bored" piece of "*h**" considered it an "offence" once! And I IMHO am extremely glad that I don't "have" to talk like this every IMHO ***k** day! And I also IMHO "think" that "forcing" me to put that "IMHO" to my every "phrase" you IMHO appear more "rude" than I IMHO ever was. Better? PS: Everything written above was a joke. (In case you really are a lawyer.) PPS: Concerning this topic's initial question and my "humble oppinion". :wink: Try to remember Boethiah's task. "Kill them as silently and invisibly as you can!.." Now tell me that silence and invisibility are noble warrior's best friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralFire Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 ...What did I just read? :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stemin Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Well, let's try it Your way. I IMHO "think" that you are IMHO "wrong". I don't "know" about IMHO you, or IMHO Perraine, but I am IMHO not some ***k** "lawyer", and I "didn't think" we are IMHO in some ***k** "court". I "thought" IMHO I used "words" like "I think" quite IMHO often, but I also "always" thought that IMHO the HO of it means "Humble Oppinion", and "everything" everyone tells is IMHO his or her "oppinion". "Forgive me" if I'm IMHO "wrong". Besides, I IMHO think that you "may address" your post to IMHO "yourself", cause "you seem to make assumptions" about me in it. Don't "know" about you, but I IMHO live not in U... some country where IMHO any "piece of hysterical *h**" can "drag" you to the "court" for IMHO any single word that "piece" considered an "offence". And I IMHO am glad I don't "live" there! I am very IMHO glad that I can call a cat a "cat" and not IMHO some "little domestic furry animal" because some "hysterical" or simply IMHO "bored" piece of "*h**" considered it an "offence" once! And I IMHO am extremely glad that I don't "have" to talk like this every IMHO ***k** day! And I also IMHO "think" that "forcing" me to put that "IMHO" to my every "phrase" you IMHO appear more "rude" than I IMHO ever was. Better? PS: Everything written above was a joke. (In case you really are a lawyer.) PPS: Concerning this topic's initial question and my "humble oppinion". :wink: Try to remember Boethiah's task. "Kill them as silently and invisibly as you can!.." Now tell me that silence and invisibility are noble warrior's best friends! It has nothing to do with lawyers. It's the difference between making a statement and giving your opinion. If you say, "The Emperor is a puppet." vs. "I think the Emperor is just a puppet." I think most people will see the difference between those two comments. One is a statement, the other is an opinion. But thank you for the uncalled for, random, pot-shot at my country and the long exaggerated post. I think it will make my life easier if I just put you on my ignore list. Edited June 7, 2012 by Stemin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy8 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) It has nothing to do with lawyers. It's the difference between making a statement and giving your opinion. If you say, "The Emperor is a puppet." vs. "I think the Emperor is just a puppet." I think most people will see the difference between those two comments. One is a statement, the other is an opinion. I think we belong to different "debating schools". If someone writes "The Emperor is a puppet.", I read "The person who posted it thinks the Emperor is a puppet (and seems to be quite sure about it)." BTW, wasn't all written above a statement? Except a phrase "I think most people will see..." But thank you for the uncalled for, random, pot-shot at my country and the long exaggerated post. I think it will make my life easier if I just put you on my ignore list. The same. BTW, in my post I wrote "Don't know about you..." So your phrase about my "pot-shot" was again your statement. And, IMHO, "not entirely right one". Brucealso, sorry for all that... in Your topic! Edited June 8, 2012 by landy8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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