Mistveil and Ansilvund crashes

Tarquine · June 1, 2012

Dear all,

Lately (after playing the game for over 4 months) the following two problems have appeared that may be related (NB. the second problem may contain a quest spoiler!):

1. Any time I try to enter Riften's Mistveil Keep, the game crashes to the desktop. I have no problem entering the barracks or the jail (or for that matter any other area in Riften). I tried entering the Keep from both the main and the barracks doors, but the game still crashes. I haven't had a problem with this area before and I've already done a couple of quests for the Jarl. The only quest that's pending is to buy Honeyside.

2. [!Possible SPOILER!] I don't know if this is causally related to the previous problem (although I encountered both a few hours of game-play apart), but the same phenomenon (crash to desktop) happens as soon as I kill Lu'ah Al-Skaven in Ansilvund. With this one, I have tried progressing the relevant quest through the console and the quest progresses fine, as long as I am not in the same area with Lu'ah Al-Skaven. However, as soon as I enter that area, regardless how much time has passed since I killed her through the console, the game crashes again.

Some background info that may help:

- I am playing Skyrim (English version) on a PC (64bit, Win7, 8-core I7, 8Gb ram, ATI Radeo HD 5870).

- I have the latest game patch (not the 1.6 beta one).

- The latest SKSE.

- I am NOT using ENB.

- I haven't used the unofficial patch yet.

- I am using BOSS, TesModManager, NMM, and Wrye Bash for the mods.

- I use a few mods; however, I did try entering these areas with all light, shadow, weather, bug fixes, and sound mods deactivated (no improvement). The rest of my mods are companion and weapon adjustments or additions, and although I haven't tried deactivating them, I cannot see how they could affect these areas (obviously, I enter the areas alone and I am equipped with the game's original gear).

- Finally, although I don't use the official HD texture pack, I do use a number of modded HD textures, like Skyrim HD, Sexy Riften, and kobaayashis ones.

UPDATE 1: Since I posted the above message, I used the Unofficial Patch (no change in the crashes), and I started skyrim with no mods and only the main game esm active. Still the game crashes.

UPDATE 2: Mistveil crash is fixed! After a number of eliminations, I discovered that the whole reason for this crash were the meshes from a mod that changed the Jarl's clothes! I deleted those meshes and everything works fine! I will keep you updated regarding the second problem.

That said, still any advice will be massively appreciated.

Best

Ta

Edited June 4, 2012 by Tarquine

Twaylveh · April 13, 2014

Thanks for posting this, it really helped me out.

uffjohnnexus · April 27, 2014

Twaylveh or Tarquine, which meshes did you delete?

hazydawn · July 6, 2014

I always have problems with Ansilvund. It didn't crash when I killed Lu'ah Al-Skaven but if I try to leave this area and get back into the Ansilvund Excavation the game crashes.

I used the console to teleport myself outside and it didn't crash :0 Then I fast travelled back to Ansilvund and when I try to enter it again it also crahses. So I somehow seemed to have ruined that dungeon cell for me :/

Edit: I did a fast rerun of the dungeon in godmode (without a follower this time, don't think it matters) and didn't get any crashes this time. I can't explain this; probably Skyrim sorcery.

So my tip if anyone gets the same problem is to reload a previous save and do it again. Maybe something got f*#@ed up for no particular reason.

Edited July 6, 2014 by hazydawn

Tesel · July 15, 2015

Bump this please? I've got the unofficial patches installed but I'm still having trouble in Ansilvund. (I never even got a quest to go here or anything; all I wanted to do was explore! Should I just scurry away? It crashes at seemingly random points, sometimes I can progress a bit and sometimes it crashes nearly immediately after loading)

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[07/15/2015 - 07:45:53AM]

[07/15/2015 - 07:45:54AM] USKP 1.2 Retroactive Updates Complete

[07/15/2015 - 07:45:58AM] USKP 1.2.1 Retroactive Updates Complete

[07/15/2015 - 07:45:58AM] USKP 1.2.2 Retroactive Updates Complete

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[07/15/2015 - 07:46:03AM] Error: Cannot call IsDead() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[uSKPRetroactive205 (02040578)].uskpretroactive205script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive205Script.psc" Line 52

[uSKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A)].uskpretroactive204script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive204Script.psc" Line 307

[uSKPRetroactive203 (0201068A)].uskpretroactive203script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive203Script.psc" Line 57

[uSKPRetroactive202 (0200E025)].uskpretroactive202script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive202Script.psc" Line 34

[uSKPRetroactive201 (020946CF)].uskpretroactive201script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive201Script.psc" Line 190

[uSKPRetroactive200 (02051CB5)].uskpretroactive200script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive200Script.psc" Line 180

[uSKPRetroactive133 (0203F7B8)].uskpretroactive133script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive133Script.psc" Line 116

[uSKPRetroactive132 (0202C3E7)].uskpretroactive132script.Process() - "USKPRetroactive132Script.psc" Line 168

[07/15/2015 - 07:46:03AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp4"