Sadfer Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) I don't know if it's just me but has the fact that you have to be leader of the Thieves guild annoy you? Have you ever thought that Brynjolf would have made a better leader. Are you a busy Dovahkiin and don't have time for the responsibilities of both managing the guild AND saving the people of Skyrim from dragons and what not. I know that I have! But I couldn't seem to find a Mod to change this. I found marrying Bryn, Having him and Karliah as Followers, even better sneaking for their AI's and any other Thief Followers. All Fantastic, But nothing that changes the ultimate outcome of who leads the thieves guild. Does anyone want to make this/Anyone know of a Mod that sounds like this that I've just not seen yet? Cheers in advanced if you make it, please share and discuss. Otherwise how's everyone else feeling about this matter? Was it just me or are you equally annoyed? Edited June 4, 2012 by Sadfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaktoastTheSandwichTopper Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 agreed since irl im not really one to take command unless there really isnt any other choice so this would be very immersive for me at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkiev Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 It makes sense, I agree. But there's a dialogue option after completing the Mercer Frey quest where you can ask Brynjolf why it's you and not him that should be leader, and he gives a pretty detailed explanation as to why he doesn't want the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODSBANE123456 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Easily enough, you could take the AI of Mercer Frey and give it to Brynjolf, but have a choice at the end of the quest line allowing you to choose whether nor not you want to become the leader. If not, then give the AI to brynjolf and remove that dialogue option from him. Personally, I think that this would be a great idea, not only for the Thieves guild, but for the Companions, and all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsheik Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Good mod idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vestt2 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Easily enough, you could take the AI of Mercer Frey and give it to Brynjolf, but have a choice at the end of the quest line allowing you to choose whether nor not you want to become the leader. If not, then give the AI to brynjolf and remove that dialogue option from him. Personally, I think that this would be a great idea, not only for the Thieves guild, but for the Companions, and all the others.i wanna join god bane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadfer Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 It makes sense, I agree. But there's a dialogue option after completing the Mercer Frey quest where you can ask Brynjolf why it's you and not him that should be leader, and he gives a pretty detailed explanation as to why he doesn't want the job. Yeh I know, I love the thieves guild, and I did ask him when it came to it, I just felt a little miffed that it was the only option, For a role playing aspect I felt that he would have made a better Leader than me since he didn't have dovahkiin dutys to fulfil and would be there more than my character would have been. I would have prefered a begruntled Leading Bryn than him just going "You are the leader now :D" But yeh This Mod idea is just a speculation to diversify the role playing aspect of one of my favourite bits of the game is all ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkiev Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It makes sense, I agree. But there's a dialogue option after completing the Mercer Frey quest where you can ask Brynjolf why it's you and not him that should be leader, and he gives a pretty detailed explanation as to why he doesn't want the job. Yeh I know, I love the thieves guild, and I did ask him when it came to it, I just felt a little miffed that it was the only option, For a role playing aspect I felt that he would have made a better Leader than me since he didn't have dovahkiin dutys to fulfil and would be there more than my character would have been. I would have prefered a begruntled Leading Bryn than him just going "You are the leader now :D" But yeh This Mod idea is just a speculation to diversify the role playing aspect of one of my favourite bits of the game is all ;D Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. Some kind of dialogue option where your char could convince him that his leadership would be best for the TG would make better immersion sense. I got the feeling that he'd indeed put TG best-interests ahead of his preferences if pressed on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptopyr Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I agree that this is a good idea. I'm not sure I'd make that choice, personally... I like being in charge :biggrin: But I think it would be nice to have the option. If anything, I it bothers me a bit that the player becomes leader in name only. The conversations between various guild members, even after you are guild master, still makes it seem as if Brynjolf is really the one running things. I'm not sure you would even need to change the AI to make this work. His post-quest package already has him using the Guild Master's desk (leaning over the record book, reading, etc), so you would "just" need to change some of the dialogue and then modify the quest so that the Thieves Guild quest is considered complete if you choose the alternate option (and bypasses the ceremony where you become leader). I can't really think of any repercussions this might have. other than some possible incompatibilities with other mods. You should still be able to accept jobs from Vex and Delvin since those quests don't really change once you become leader. I think it really boils down to an issue with the dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtskywalker Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Any news on this mod? I'm sure by now someone must have done something about it.. Edited August 1, 2013 by sgtskywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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