MacSuibhne Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) I put him on my ignore list a long time ago. High praise indeed! Edited June 9, 2012 by MacSuibhne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidus44 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Do you really think the Thalmor would turn a blind eye to Imperial buildup like the allied powers did after the Versailles treaty? They show absolutely no evidence of that at all - not even close. The Allied powers went into their happy shell, quite content to never have another war until one was thrust upon them. Only reason they didn't wait even longer was there was a global economic crisis of the kind that usually only wars get nations out of. Sounds EXACTLY like the behavior we see out of the Empire. I believe I stated what I felt may be occurring in the Empire quite clearly, but since you seem to have missed the point, I'll explain what I meant on the part you chose to discuss. Just because 30 years have passed doesn't mean something isn't going on in the Empire about the situation. If such things as complacency and secret plots happen in real life over a 20 year period, why would there be disbelief they cannot happen in a game? As for your points; I have no doubt the Thalmor are planning to start a war and are spying on the Empire, waiting for the right time to attack. I don't think I stated anything about the Thalmor in my post, I stuck pretty much to what may be going on in the Empire as the OP's point was about what the Empire may or may not be doing about the situation, not the Thalmor. As for who is under an oppressive treaty, it is the Empire as far as I see in the game as I do not recall hearing about any concession that the Thalmor have made that is upsetting their citizens. Again, real history tells us that taking away something from someone, and particularly religious beliefs, tend to make for long term discontent and that people will fight for thousands of years, particularly for their right to worship who and how they want. And again, if such things happen in real life, why could they not occur in a game? I do not disagree that the Empire and the Emperor in particular went into a shell either, content not to fight a war. But, if the Empire, and particularly the upper class and bureaucrats are happy and content with the situation, why would the Elder Council (as suggested in the game) have the Emperor assassinated and for what reason? While one could present any number of thoughts as to why, I'm not aware of any economic crisis in the game or any other conflict or concern effecting the Empire in the game, other than the oppression of religious rights and disregard for citizen's rights placed upon the Empire and its citizens by the Thalmor. Again, this is all just speculation based upon what I see in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSuibhne Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 I have no doubt the Thalmor are planning to start a war and are spying on the Empire, waiting for the right time to attack. I don't think I stated anything about the Thalmor in my post, I stuck pretty much to what may be going on in the Empire as the OP's point was about what the Empire may or may not be doing about the situation, not the Thalmor. As for who is under an oppressive treaty, it is the Empire as far as I see in the game as I do not recall hearing about any concession that the Thalmor have made that is upsetting their citizens. I suspect you and Breakwind have the right of it. The AD will be the aggressor. The Empire will not...despite the oppression of its people and the spying of the Thalmor. But it is the Imperials that claim the Empire is just biding its time. Hence my post... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Empire has put the Thalmor and all their abuses on an "ignore list." :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted4666244User Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) i think that the Dominion won't actually go to war with the Empire, but destroy it in a secret way/through Subversion. the empire may be the ones expecting an actual attack so it would be best for the Dominion to sit back and use underhanded tactics to destroy the races of men. Edited June 9, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacSuibhne Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 For what it is worth, there is a ruin tower at the Morrowind border, and a book/Decree of Monument that reads: 4 E 20 This tower once served as a meeting place where those brave souls who achieved safe passage to Skyrim would find loved ones, and leave notice for others who could not be found. Let it stand in honor of those who had the strength and spirit to accept Skyrim's Offer "untithed to any thane or hold, and self-governed, with free worship, with no compensation to Skyrim or the Empire except as writ in the Armistice of old wheresoever those might still apply, and henceforth let no Man or Mer say that the Sons and Daughters of Kyne are without mercy or honor." We, the Jarls of Skyrim, hereby decree this site as monument to the struggle of those who fled their native home of Morrowind in the time following the Red Year. Just thought that was interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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