sid4975 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) I keep getting constant random freezes anywhere from a few minutes too an hour or two into the game. i have casm set too auto save every 2 mins because of this. the game didnt do this in the begining, and i dont remember the last mods i added. i also tried the bUseThreadedAI=1 in the ini file fix which did nothing. the game will just totally freeze. it wont crash until i hit ctrl-alt-del and bring up task manager. it will just stay frozen on the screen. it happens indoors and out i run the game from the nv4gb script extender launcher here is my mod list in order typed out, also here is a pastebin link http://pastebin.com/Netvqk93 from my BOSS log falloutnvdeadmoneyhonestheartsoldworldblueslonesomeraodgunrunnersclassicpackmercenarypacxktribalpackcaravanpack Fook new vegasFook new vegas DLCAworldofpain(preview)MoModmore perksproject nevada corePN equipmentPN rebalancePN cyberwareCASMthe mod config menuthe weapon mod menumonster mod wasteland editionMMWE reblanaced level listMMWE vanilla spawnFook new vegas espfook new vegas dlc espPN dead moneyPN honest heartsPN OWB no cyberwarePN lonesome roadPN gun runnersnewvegas bountiesno main story ultimatumnewvegas bountis IImore perks updateNVwillowfasttravel indoorsWeight blaance v10weapon mod expandedWMX fooknv CPwmx awop-overhaulPN WMXWMX moderweaponsWMX mw graWMX deadmoneyWMX hounestheartsWMX OWBWMX lonesome roadsWMX gun runners aresnalWMX fooknv DLCs CPWMX preorder classicWMX preorder caravanWMX preorde rmercnearyWMX preorder tribalEVE FNVPN EVE Edited June 12, 2012 by sid4975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFourthHorse Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 MMWE - Rebalanced Leveled Lists.esp ActiveMMWE - Vanilla Spawn Chance.esp ActiveWMX-AWOP-Overhaul.esp ActiveWMX-MW-GRA.esp ActiveWMEVE - FOOK.esp I'm not familiar with these esps but I would review them carefully and test the game with out them (if possible) to see if they could be linked to the problem. This may not be the case but since they are not recognized it would be good to check. I also noticed you have no merged patch in that list. Is that the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid4975 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) no i dont have a merged patch, what exactly is that? and how do i make one? and i tried diabling a few of those unrecognized ones and it still frooze. here is the link too the wmx overhaul awophttp://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45696 Edited June 12, 2012 by sid4975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFourthHorse Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 no i dont have a merged patch, what exactly is that? and how do i make one? and i tried diabling a few of those unrecognized ones and it still frooze. A merged patch helps prevent save bloating and other errors when you have lots of mods. Try downloading installing and running FNVedit. When you run it, the right window will run through all of your active mods and may detected errors right there. If it does not and shows that it's complete, right click on the LEFT window and select create merged patch, select a name (I recommend something like 'MP 6-12-2012) and after you have done this be sure to select it (the merged patch you have just named) as active with your mod manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid4975 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 ok i did what u said and the only errors i got were in the NVwillow mod and EVE FNV. dont know if there major or not. any ideas? do i need too delete the willow companion? or should i make the patch and try it out? [00:26] Background Loader: [NVWillow.esp] Building reference info.[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKED[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POBA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POEA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCTX 58544353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POCA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Errors were found in: FollowersWillowFollowPlayerFollowDrinkSSFull [PACK:26043764][00:26] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID PKDT PLDT PSDT PTDT CTDA CTDA CTDA IDLF IDLC IDLT IDLA PKED CNAM POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM PKED POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR SCTX TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM [00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKED[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POBA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POEA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCTX 58544353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POCA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Errors were found in: FollowersWillowFollowPlayerFollowDrinkWillowsCoffee [PACK:26049F13][00:26] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID PKDT PLDT PSDT PTDT CTDA CTDA CTDA IDLF IDLC IDLT IDLA PKED CNAM POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM PKED POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR SCTX TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM [00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKED[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POBA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POEA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POCA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Errors were found in: FollowersWillowFollowPlayerFollowDrinkWater [PACK:26049F14][00:26] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID PKDT PLDT PSDT PTDT CTDA CTDA CTDA IDLF IDLC IDLT IDLA PKED CNAM POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM PKED POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM [00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKED[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POBA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POEA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCTX 58544353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POCA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Errors were found in: FollowersWillowFollowPlayerFollowDrinkNukaCola [PACK:26049F15][00:26] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID PKDT PLDT PSDT PTDT CTDA CTDA CTDA IDLF IDLC IDLT IDLA PKED CNAM POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM PKED POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR SCTX TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM [00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord PKED[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POBA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POEA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCTX 58544353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord POCA[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord INAM 4D414E49[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord SCHR 52484353[00:26] Background Loader: Error: record PACK contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TNAM 4D414E54[00:26] Background Loader: Errors were found in: FollowersWillowFollowPlayerFollowEatGeckoVegPocket [PACK:260A8C51][00:26] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID PKDT PLDT PSDT PTDT CTDA CTDA CTDA IDLF IDLC IDLT IDLA PKED CNAM POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM PKED POBA INAM SCHR TNAM POEA INAM SCHR SCTX TNAM POCA INAM SCHR TNAM [00:26] Background Loader: [fasttravelindoors.esp] Building reference info.[00:26] Background Loader: [Weight_Balance_v10.esp] Building reference info.[00:26] Background Loader: [WeaponModsExpanded.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-FOOKNV CP.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [Project Nevada - WMX.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-ModernWeapons.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-DeadMoney.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-HonestHearts.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-FOOKNV-DLCs CP.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-AWOP-Overhaul.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-PreOrderPackClassic.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-PreOrderPackCaravan.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-PreOrderPackMercenary.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [WMX-PreOrderPackTribal.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [EVE FNV.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DEST 54534544[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DSTD 44545344[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DMDL 4C444D44[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DSTF 46545344[00:27] Background Loader: Errors were found in: WJSarmorBoneMain "Scorched Corpse" [ARMO:3800A76D][00:27] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL EITM BMDT MODL MOD2 ICON DEST DSTD DMDL DSTF BIPL ETYP DATA DNAM BNAM TNAM [00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DEST 54534544[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DSTD 44545344[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DMDL 4C444D44[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record ARMO contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DSTF 46545344[00:27] Background Loader: Errors were found in: WJSarmorBoneMainP "Grim Fandango" [ARMO:3800AA4E][00:27] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND FULL EITM BMDT MODL MOD2 ICON DEST DSTD DMDL DSTF REPL BIPL ETYP DATA DNAM BNAM TNAM [00:27] Background Loader: Error: record LIGH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DEST 54534544[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record LIGH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DSTD 44545344[00:27] Background Loader: Error: record LIGH contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord DSTF 46545344[00:27] Background Loader: Errors were found in: WJSDrainedMFCell [LIGH:38011A56][00:27] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID OBND MODL SCRI DEST DSTD DSTF DATA FNAM [00:27] Background Loader: [Project Nevada - EVE.esp] Building reference info.[00:27] Background Loader: [Fallout - Textures.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [Fallout - Textures2.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [Fallout - Meshes.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [Fallout - Voices1.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [Fallout - Sound.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [Fallout - Misc.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [DeadMoney - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [DeadMoney - Sounds.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [HonestHearts - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [HonestHearts - Sounds.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [OldWorldBlues - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [OldWorldBlues - Sounds.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [LonesomeRoad - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [LonesomeRoad - Sounds.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [GunRunnersArsenal - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [GunRunnersArsenal - Sounds.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [ClassicPack - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [MercenaryPack - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [TribalPack - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [CaravanPack - Main.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [MoMod.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [NVWillow.bsa] Skipped.[00:27] Background Loader: [d:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition\Data\] Setting Resource Path.[00:27] Background Loader: finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid4975 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 i also tried too make a merged patch, im not really sure what im doing wrong, but the game doesnt load the menu it just gets stuck at the main screen with the guy holding the gun. do i merge every file, and then uncheck all the files but the merged patch file? i dont really understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFourthHorse Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) I'm told these errors are common and not a problem... although I've never received them :unsure: Once you've made the merged patch just select it in the mod manager and LEAVE ALL THE FILES YOU HAD ON WHEN YOU MADE IT ON. What did you do? Edited June 12, 2012 by TheFourthHorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid4975 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) would i put the merged patch at the top or bottom of the list? i thought the point of making a merged patch was too remove a bunch of the .esp and esm files so theres just one big file? when i made one with fnvedit it added what it says are master files but only some of my mods not all of them. i dont really understand what im suppose too do with it. do i delete the mods that are in the merged patch from the data folder now? and when i do try too load it with all my mods and the patch selected it freezes Edited June 13, 2012 by sid4975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFourthHorse Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) bottom As I posted above, you must keep all the mods. The merged patch simply sits at the bottom of your load list. If it freezes your mods or the order of your mods is the problem. In case I didnt make myself clear enough. I, personally, would start over and take greater care to slowly build my mod list. Take even greater care to assure that your load order is correct and that you make a merged patch every time you add new mods before playing. I've been asking so many people this, I cant remember if I asked you... have you verified your game cache at all? Also, what is your OS and RAM? Edited June 13, 2012 by TheFourthHorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid4975 Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 ok i made the patch and put it at the bottom, i havent had a chance too fully test it, and how do i do the cache thing? that could be it since it didnt start till after i was a good bit into the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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