Pinpointed a CTD area, can we pinpoint the cause please?

[forthemods08]

Ok, I am able to recreate the ctd 100% of the time here.

 

I am walking east on a road toward the quest marker for "Truth Ore Consequences" to collect an ore sample. Its on the east end of the map, and as I'm coming up to a pack of wolves i get a CTD. I saved about 20 feet away from the area and have been able to recreate the CTD 100% of the time.

 

I have disabled my mods and it is still happening. I don't have any mods installed that add too many things to the game world.. No extra houses or anything like that. Mostly aesthetic mods and magic/player/weapon mods..

 

My papyrus log spazzed out at the end and the ones that were repeating were firefly.psc and critter.psc and another one. I'm at work and will update the thread when I get home with pics, video and papyrus log if necessary..

 

Any ideas on what would be causing it/how I can pinpoint it better?

Edited June 14, 2012 by mattbison

[forthemods08]

here is a snippet of my papyrus log... i CTDd within 10 seconds of loading my save

 

 

 

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 58

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 68

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp4"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 68

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 78

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 78

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 88

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 88

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 203

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 12

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 276

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdateGameTime - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.UnregisterForUpdateGameTime() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 277

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call Disable - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.Disable() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 283

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetParentCell - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.GetParentCell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 289

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetParentCell - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.GetParentCell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 302

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 42

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetParentCell - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.GetParentCell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 289

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetParentCell - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.GetParentCell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 302

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 43

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:07PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 43

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 45

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "DCUpdateQuestScript.psc" Line 37

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 45

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "DCUpdateQuestScript.psc" Line 39

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 46

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 46

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 48

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 49

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 51

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 48

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 52

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 54

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 55

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 57

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (6000BBC6)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "DCUpdateQuestScript.psc" Line 21

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 58

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 60

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] CLUXMSG : Path Light Enabled

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (6000BBC8)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "DCUpdateQuestScript.psc" Line 30

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 49

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 51

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 52

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 54

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "DCUpdateQuestScript.psc" Line 37

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 55

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].DCUpdateQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "DCUpdateQuestScript.psc" Line 39

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 57

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 58

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 60

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call Activate() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].DMRemote.OnUpdate() - "DMRemote.psc" Line 14

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"

stack:

[None].DMRemote.OnUpdate() - "DMRemote.psc" Line 14

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 10

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call start() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 11

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"

stack:

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 11

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 47

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 47

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 58

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 58

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 68

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp4"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 68

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 78

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 78

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot call IsCompleted() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 88

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"

stack:

[None].Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "Apoc_AutomaticQuestScript.psc" Line 88

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 203

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.OnUpdate() - "zBFSEffectsQuestUpdateScript.psc" Line 12

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 276

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdateGameTime - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.UnregisterForUpdateGameTime() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 277

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call Disable - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.Disable() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 283

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 42

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 43

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetParentCell - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.GetParentCell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 289

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetParentCell - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].Firefly.GetParentCell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 302

[None].Firefly.OnUpdate() - "Firefly.psc" Line 205

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: No Spell or Shout passed to HasSpell

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.HasSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 45

[06/13/2012 - 09:29:08PM] ERROR: Cannot add a None spell to the actor

stack:

[ (00000014)].Actor.AddSpell() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.OnUpdate() - "aaaDovahkiinRelaxQuest.psc" Line 46

 

 

Edited June 14, 2012 by mattbison

[forthemods08]

http://i.imgur.com/wntXV.jpg

 

That is where I am, if I start walking towards the quest marker I get a CTD.

 

What other evidence can I provide that will help me pinpoint the CTD?

 

Here is my BOSS list:

 

 

−Summary

 

Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r4577; Jun 13, 2012). No update necessary.

 

Recognised plugins: 121 Warning messages: 0

Unrecognised plugins: 15 Error messages: 0

Ghosted plugins: 0 Total number of messages: 16

Total number of plugins: 136

Plugins sorted by user rules are counted as recognised plugins.

 

−Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.5.6

CFM_extensions.dll

−Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active

DirectorsTools.esm Active

SkyMoMod.esm Active

JSwords.esm Active

ApachiiHair.esm Active

Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HighResTexturePackFix.esp Active

Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Active

SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active

SoS - The Wilds.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active

Realistic Lighting.esp Active

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp Active

enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp Active

Note: Use only one enhanceddynamicweathersystem esp

Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active

Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

BetterFishAdded.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}} not tested

BetterArchmagesRobes.esp Active

Birdsofskyrim.esp Active

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active

hqsnow.esp Active

improvedskillbooks.esp Active

Ish's Souls to Perks.esp Active

Requires: Requires SKSE 1.5.6 or higher.

lt_better_horses.esp Active

mcCampingLite.esp Active

mintylightningmod.esp Active

moredragonloot.esp Active

MoreRain.esp Active

MoreSnow.esp Active

MoreVillageAnimals.esp Active

People Have Torches.esp Active

ScenicCarriages.esp Active

SkyMoMod_lists.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Active

Auto Unequip Arrows.esp Active

AutomaticItemStorage.esp Active

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Active

cartographers map markers.esp Active

AlduinWing.esp Active

BaratheonArmor.esp Active

Cloaks.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - Player Only.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Daedric Lord Armor.esp Active

DEATH-DEALER.esp Active

DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp Active

dragonpriestmasks.esp Active

Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp Active

Elemental Staves.esp Active

HedgeKnight.esp Active

isilNarsil.esp Active

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

LFArmors.esp Active

Newermind Bow Collection.esp Active

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active

Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

RedguardKnight.esp Active

SamuraiArmor.esp Active

SilverDragonArmor.esp Active

VagabondArmor.esp Active

VanguardArmor.esp Active

WarchiefArmor.esp Active

WayoftheVoice3.esp Active

Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active

Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp Active

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active

SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp Active

ArchmageNecklace.esp Active

armored-horses.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active

DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp Active

DynamicMerchants.esp Active

GloriousGrass.esp Active

Lawrens RNG Guards.esp Active

longercandlelight5min.esp Active

More Dynamic Shadows.esp Active

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active

Spells Cast Light.esp Active

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active

apocalypse.esp Active

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active

ForcePush.esp Active

MasterTheTimeAndSpaceTOGGLE.esp Active

MidasSkyrim.esp Active

Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp Active

SpellMassForce.esp Active

dovahkiinrelax.esp Active

candlelightnobulb.esp Active

BFSEffects.esp Active

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active

Magelight Multi Cast.esp Active

AlchemyOrganization.esp Active

The Dance of Death 3.0 Beta.esp Active

DeadlyCombat.esp Active

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Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

 

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Edited June 14, 2012 by mattbison

[blitzen]

What I usually do in a situation like that is coc directly into a player house and sleep for 31 days. There is a mod that allows you to do this in one shot, instead of in 24 hour increments. This allows everything in the game to essentially reset. It works pretty well in clearing up mysterious crashes in my experience. Often those are caused by junk that has accumulated in save files, or changes to npc's in the area introduced since the game was last saved. I would try this approach. No guarantees of course. This game is very unstable with mods.

 

EDIT: You should try disabling SkyMoMod first. I stopped using it since it seemed to be associated with too many game lockups. If you still have the crash after disabling it, then try the sleeping approach.

[forthemods08]

I actually did my first 31 day sleep the night before I discovered this crash and also tried with skymomod disabled... I will try both again to be sure and report back.. Thanks for answering though.

[forthemods08]

wow... looks like it was skyrim monster mod, but not the main mod. it was the lore friendly replacer.. i uninstalled it and just loaded the save 3x, ran around the area, and killed a bunch of creatures.. no crash

[forthemods08]

Update(although it seems like no one cares)

 

I installed the lore friendly replacer for skyrim monster mod that also removes the dragons for better compatibility with deadly dragons, and while I no longer get the CTD, the first time I went to the town to collect the ore sample, the buildings disappeared. I saw a door out in the open but no building connected to it. I restarted the game and the buildings came back, but when I tried to enter the mine to clear out the spiders the game froze on a loading screen..

 

What is wrong with this part of the map!? I don't have the problems anywhere else.

[serpentwave]

Update(although it seems like no one cares)

 

I installed the lore friendly replacer for skyrim monster mod that also removes the dragons for better compatibility with deadly dragons, and while I no longer get the CTD, the first time I went to the town to collect the ore sample, the buildings disappeared. I saw a door out in the open but no building connected to it. I restarted the game and the buildings came back, but when I tried to enter the mine to clear out the spiders the game froze on a loading screen..

 

What is wrong with this part of the map!? I don't have the problems anywhere else.

I know this post is a few months old but I am also trying to pin point the, "Firefly.Disable() - "<native>" Line ?

[None].Firefly.disableAndDelete() - "Critter.psc" Line 283..etc." (papyrus log).

 

Was any new information discovered regarding this CTD? I have never installed any of those monster mods before, however I heard mention of the "Claralux" mod. I had that installed at one point and I recognize that the author used the old "onupdate" as opposed to the "autoupdate" scripting.. bloaters (it has been a while so please excuse my butchery of the script tasks).

Anywho if anyone has any leads for some fireflies or critters, for that matter, t'would be most appreciated.

[bben46]

Often a CTD in a specific place in game is not an active mod, but caused by something you removed but is still in the save you are using. Because it is in the save, the game is looking for it when you go into that cell - it's not there, - CTD. :pinch:

 

Drop back to a very early save - such as the one you should have made when you first exited the cave after Helgen. - If you don't have one there, any early save after Helgen (Helgen has problems with some mods)

 

Then try going to that location - If you can go there with no CTD, it's caused by something that is no longer present (or was not yet added by a mod) but was present in that earlier save.

 

Now comes the fun part - figuring what it is that is missing.

 

Try later and later saves to zero in on the time that the problem starts.

Jump to a save near your present game and try.

Then if you get the CTD, jump to a save half way between the one that worked and your present game

Use this halfway technique to zero in on when it starts - you should find a place where one save works, and the next one CTDs. Then figure out what you changed between those two saves - what you removed or what you added to the game. You may have to just resume from the last save that works.

[serpentwave]

OK thank you very much for the tip, although the experimentation with a tremendous amount of mods would make the spectrum, well.... tremendous.

 

The suggestion you made brings up a good point with something I had read earlier regarding a type of location based error / conflict. But that is not the case with this issue. But the usage of going to Helgen and tracking backwards is food for thought.

 

I have a question though, is there a general database for any bad script files? Is there a method to check any inconsistencies with current mods and scripts within the script folder? Boss will check with load orders and Wrye-Bash is great but it doesnt check for any old script files (that I am aware of).

I am thinking some erroneous that is occurring (within my game), is related to conflicts within these new custom-behavior patches and the like (Fore's, JoshNZ's, etc.) when these are stacked with pre-packaged, stand-alone, scripted-AI packages (not to mention different skeletal types and weight paintings, etc. within these packages) there is room for CTD-a'plenty *whew that was a mouth full*.

 

At any rate, I appreciate any furthered, as well as previous, assistance given sir.