CTD Issues

[Arkath]

Thinking its a mod conflict. Alternate start failed to work ,but I loaded up after the third time normal Helgen start (no alternate start) everything worked fine. Exited, came back, and now it CTDs on load and stalls on new game. I have SKSE and the game updated.

 

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active

Immersive Patrols.esm Active

SkyMoMod.esm Active

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active

JSwords.esm Active

Grytewake.esm Active

moonpath.esm Active

ArmedttTeeth.esm Active

Lycanthropy_Audio_by_Brevi.esm Active

Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active

Improved Combat Sounds v2.0.esp Active

SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active

SoS - The Wilds.esp Active

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

BabettesFeastBalanced.esp Active

Birdsofskyrim.esp Active

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

DSpSoB.esp Active

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp Active

HarvestOverhaul.esp Active

HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp Active

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active

Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Active

lt_better_horses.esp Active

People Have Torches.esp Active

Perfect Legionnaire 3.0.esp Active

Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

ScenicCarriages.esp Active

sharpe craftsmanship - made to order.esp Active

SkyMoMod_lists.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp Active

CrowdedCities.esp Active

SIM- NPC Additions.esp Active

SIM - NPCAdditionsWEREWOLVES.esp Active

SIM - NPCAdditionsHOSTILE.esp Active

SIM - NPCSUBMITTED.esp Active

SIM - Treasure Anywhere.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

Cloaks - Player Only.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Note: Use only one cloaks*esp

EinherjarArmor.esp Active

HedgeKnight.esp Active

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active

Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

SilverDragonArmor.esp Active

WarchiefArmor.esp Active

Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp Active

Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.

MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp Active

MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisitedLootTables.esp Active

mm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedStaminaSprintDrain.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

BuildableHouse.esp Active

CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp Active

Grytewake.esp Active

moonpath_questdata.esp Active

RayeksEnd.esp Active

RiverWood Redux.esp Active

Riverwood Redux Expanded Basement.esp Active

The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp Active

whiterunMarket.esp Active

Reweighed Potions.esp Active

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active

armored-horses.esp Active

AT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp Active

AT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp Active

AT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp Active

AT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp Active

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active

No NPC Greetings.esp Active

SkyRe_Main.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Note: Make sure to get both available resource-packs.

SkyRe_Races.esp Active

SkyRe_Enemies.esp Active

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

SkyRe_Lighting.esp Active

Note: Only for non ENB users

SkyRe_Plugin_HedgeKnightArmor_1.esp Active

Note: Remember to delete HedgeKnight.esp

SkyRe_Plugin_JaySuSSwords_1.3D.esp Active

Note: Remember to delete JSwords*.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active

Spells Cast Light.esp Active

VariedGuards.esp Active

Better Villages.esp Active

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active

Realistic Running Speed.esp Active

TRO_BasicNeeds.esp Active

Lycanthropy_Main_by_Brevi.esp Active

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active

BetterMage.esp Active

MidasSkyrim.esp Active

ShoutCD.esp Active

BetterMagic_FULL.esp Active

BFSEffects.esp Active

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active

More Visible Soul Trap Effect.esp Active

Eld-combinePotions.esp Active

Realistic crime report radius.esp Active

The Dance of Death 3.0 Revised Beta.esp Active

DeadlyCombat.esp Active

DeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp Active

DeadlyCombat_PISE_Patch.esp Active

DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_DualAttack.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks.esp Active

Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

Balanced_Alteraton.esp Active

Balanced_Conjuration.esp Active

Balanced_Destruction.esp Active

Balanced_Illusion.esp Active

Balanced_Restoration.esp Active

Balanced_Magic_Master.esp Active

Note: Choose only one of the below - optional if you prefer vanilla settings or other mods which adjust these values.

Balanced_Magic_Adept.esp Active

Note: Choose only one of the below - optional if you prefer vanilla settings or other mods which adjust these values.

Balanced_Magic_Novice.esp Active

Note: Choose only one of the below - optional if you prefer vanilla settings or other mods which adjust these values.

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

True Giants.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

WATER - Get Wet.esp Active

 

−Unrecognised Plugins

 

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

 

MagicDuel.esm Active

alchstone3x.esm Active

Alek's Weapon Skills Overhaul.esp Active

AT - Recover +35% Arrows.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_LeftHand.esp Active

Dual Wield Parrying_DualPowerAttack.esp Active

Dwemer_Skyship_v1_01.esp Active

Dark NightsB.esp Active

SkyRe_Plugin_WarchiefArmor_4.esp Active

 

 

Any help would be much appreciated. I would rather not disable every mod, then reenable until it crashes again.

Edited June 18, 2012 by Arkath

[jet4571]

Ummm wow thats allot of mods... Umm did you ask Arthmoore the mod author about this? Ask in the comment section for the mod?

[Arkath]

Ummm wow thats allot of mods... Umm did you ask Arthmoore the mod author about this? Ask in the comment section for the mod?

 

Disabling Alternte start was one of the first things I did.

 

I did it myself (cause yall are slowpokes/I'm ADD) and it turns out it was "The Asteria", again, and SkyRe. A shame, those were 2 of the big ones.

[vlaka]

do you get many crashes/hangs with that mod list?

I'm running near 80+ mods, almost the same ones as you and keep getting ctd's at the most weirdest places...

[mensch8maschine]

do you get many crashes/hangs with that mod list?

I'm running near 80+ mods, almost the same ones as you and keep getting ctd's at the most weirdest places...

 

welcome to the club, i'm easily 110+ and crashing constantly. ever since i installed the 1.6 patch i cant enter certain buildings. i activate a door and BANG! CTD. sometimes i crash while fast-traveling.

 

is there some sort of logging tool that records what skyrim does?

 

EDIT: @Arkath: CLARALUX really messed with my game, had to uninstall it.

 

EDIT#2: OMG it was the !"§$!§"$ ASTERIA !!!!! dammit, how does that compute, why does it stop me from entering Vrindrel Hall? A well, hope that was the only CTD cause.

Edited June 21, 2012 by mensch8maschine

[vlaka]

do you get many crashes/hangs with that mod list?

I'm running near 80+ mods, almost the same ones as you and keep getting ctd's at the most weirdest places...

 

welcome to the club, i'm easily 110+ and crashing constantly. ever since i installed the 1.6 patch i cant enter certain buildings. i activate a door and BANG! CTD. sometimes i crash while fast-traveling.

 

is there some sort of logging tool that records what skyrim does?

 

EDIT: @Arkath: CLARALUX really messed with my game, had to uninstall it.

 

EDIT#2: OMG it was the !"§$!§"$ ASTERIA !!!!! dammit, how does that compute, why does it stop me from entering Vrindrel Hall? A well, hope that was the only CTD cause.

Haha, I gave up on The Asteria long ago. Each time i'd turn my view in the direction of the ship i would CTD.

Being the impulsive mod downloader I hurridly installed too many mods without properly playing with a few at a time and now i have no idea what could be causing my crashes o_O

 

Although I doubt armour mods and tweaking arrows and adjusting ragdoll physics would be the culprit when all im doing is jumping around grasslands and water...

 

I think ASIS uses some kindof debug thing when you CTD, i'm not sure tbh :(

 

Wish it were easier to pinpoint which mods crash with at least some kind of decect error meesage window thingy.

[mensch8maschine]

oooh, ASIS, i'm gonna try that on my next playthru!

 

But that time I'm going to leave out LOTS of mods.

 

And to all those brilliant minds out there that create mods and tools and such PLEASE create some kind of debug program! (fat chance anybody will read my request ;))

Edited June 22, 2012 by mensch8maschine

[EL1TE]

Mods which crash means they have missing files, their files have been replaced, mods with bad (corrupted, unfinished, unoptimized etc) meshes/textures or are conflicting with other mods. --Scripts can also be a problem.

 

Mods which replace skeletons or add skeletons tend to have the highest percentage of crashes people experience.

 

For NPCs and/or Character Creation crashes:

 

If you use more than one Face/Body mods and or races that change how the body looks go to this folder

 

Steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\meshes\actors\character\

 

Now add a random symbol or an underscore "_" at the end of these folder's name:

 

- character assets

 

- character assets female

 

Hairs won't be available, but this is just for testing.

 

Disable ALL the HAIR ESP and ANIMATION Plugins.

 

Go and play,

 

A: If it stopped crashing skip B

 

B: if it still crashes on Char creation or in places with specific NPCs go to the folders again and rename very folder except the animations one, go play again. If still crashes rename the Animations folder too. This should fix most problems related to NPCs and/or Char Creation crashes.

 

Considering it stopped crashing with A, and you want the hair back, rename Character Assets (Not the female one, leave that one like that for now) original name. Do NOT activate the Hair esp files, the hair should be available even without the plugin activated (considering you're using Apachi hair).

 

Go back and check if started to crash again. If not rename the Female assests to the original name as well all the other folders, if it starts to crash again rename the behaviors, characters and characters female folders.

 

 

 

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For General crashes:

 

Disable mods that add new worlds/lands, change how you start the game, player houses, overhauls and crafting (specific crafting changes, such as add the default items to the crafting list)

 

Moonpath used to crash the game for me, i've uninstalled it and haven't updated since then.

 

if it stops crashing enable the mods again in this order (every category you activate back you need to start and test the game again).

 

- Crafting

- Game Start

- Houses

- Overhauls

- Lands/Worlds

Edited June 22, 2012 by EL1TE

[vlaka]

awesome post Elite.

Thank you :D

[EL1TE]

As for Mods that degrade performance even when you have an SSD, i suggest that people should disable WATER / Immersive Water, and also any Monster Mods which can cause a lot of random spawns and therefor cause the Drive to load a lot of data and also the VRAM, which will degrade overall performance and cause stutter.

 

When disabling mods keep in mind that you should disable mods that require the disabled mod as well, or else you'll get CTD, specially when you try to launch the game (there are mods which say they require X but they don't have the X reference in their ESP, still you should always disable them).

 

Also use this, even if you have an SSD and a lot of VRAM, it really helps even to prevent a single possible stutter that may appear here or there - Optimizer Textures: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12801

 

If you use this tool use the Minimum settings, also go to the tab "More / Extras" and click the "Edit Config INI", now you'll see a text document, there you'll find this:

 

[COMMON]

Preserve_File = *.png

Preserve_File = skyrimcloud*

Preserve_File = textures\_land_default.tga

Preserve_Folder = textures\MGE\

Bellow (and between the next line) add these lines (which will prevent the tool to compress armors, weapons, clothes and body textures, so they won't have blue textures or get messed up -- this doesn't usually happen, but happens)

 

Preserve_Folder = Textures\actors\

Preserve_Folder = Textures\Armor\

Preserve_Folder = Textures\weapons\

Preserve_Folder = Textures\clothes\

 

Now go to Start - Run - write: msconfig

 

Now go to the services tab and click the box "Hide all Microsoft Services", now you should disable anything that's not from Anti-Virus/Security Software, Drivers or Hardware related. Disable any update checkers and all others hat are from apps that you barely use and apply.

 

Also if you have Firefox open or Chrome close them because they take both RAM and Hard Drive usage, the ideal is to start Windows without opening the browser and go play, this helps a lot people with normal hard drives (7200rpm) and 4GB RAM.

 

After doing these changes restart the PC.