game streaking

[Madeira]

Hmm. When reinstalling I have not deleted "User's Documents/My Games?Oblivion" folder. Could this be a problem? Also, I have no idea just exactly what my "ini" file is, as I cannot find it anywhere.

[MasterAub]

Hi Madeira,

Have you tried to deselect your mods one by one, from the last one you installed to the very first one?

I guess you should start by doing this.

Yes, and no change. Currently (3rd game re-install in 2 days) running oblivion with only the 1.2 patch (plus ommd and obse). No mods. Problem persists. Very strange that wow works, yet Oblivion does not.

So it's not any mod issue

Two more questions:

Where is your oblivion data directory installed: is it in Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion?

Have you updated you video card driver?

We'll fix this issue :wink: Oblivion has to prevail...

[Madeira]

Two more questions:

Where is your oblivion data directory installed: is it in Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion?

Have you updated you video card driver?

We'll fix this issue :wink: Oblivion has to prevail...

Oblivion Data directory is in the default path. Yes, "Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion". And I assume my "ini" file is the one named "Oblivion" in the "User's Documents/My Games/Oblivion" folder.

 

Now ... Should I try another full reinstall, and delete all of Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion AND User's Documents/My games?Oblivion folders? Seems like that is my next step. (after backing up, of course :) ).

My driver is brand new from Windows Update yesterday. But the problem started 3 days ago, and persists with the new driver.

 

The video problem (hope I am describing correctly) repeated ... starts and green rectangles on char load screen, with the number increasing over time. When I log in, there are grey lines emanating out of my character plus pink on the bottom. These "lines" are actually triangles, spreading out from the centre of the screen both directions, with the triangle apexes at the centre of screen.

[MasterAub]

Two more questions:

Where is your oblivion data directory installed: is it in Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion?

Have you updated you video card driver?

We'll fix this issue :wink: Oblivion has to prevail...

Oblivion Data directory is in the default path. Yes, "Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion". And I assume my "ini" file is the one named "Oblivion" in the "User's Documents/My Games/Oblivion" folder.

Three other questions

1) Do you have the latest driver for your video card? this is crucial...

2) What are you video setting: antialiasing on/off? HRD on/off?. What is your screen resolution? Have you tried lower resolution? and lower video setting?

3) What is the temperature of your video card when playing Oblivion? Have you measured it?

 

Please answer in order for me to understand the source of the problem.

 

EDIT: ok you've answered the first question so don't bother with this one. Try to anser the other two if you can. You've already re-installed the game and it still does not work so don't re-install until we've got a clear shot of what is happening

 

And sorry for the double post.

[MasterAub]

Two more questions:

Where is your oblivion data directory installed: is it in Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion?

Have you updated you video card driver?

We'll fix this issue :wink: Oblivion has to prevail...

Oblivion Data directory is in the default path. Yes, "Program File/Bethesda Softwork/Oblivion". And I assume my "ini" file is the one named "Oblivion" in the "User's Documents/My Games/Oblivion" folder.

Three other questions

1) Do you have the latest driver for your video card? this is crucial...

2) What are you video setting: antialiasing on/off? HRD on/off?. What is your screen resolution? Have you tried lower resolution? and lower video setting?

3) What is the temperature of your video card when playing Oblivion? Have you measured it?

 

Please answer in order for me to understand the source of the problem.

 

EDIT: ok you've answered the first question so don't bother with this one. Try to anser the other two if you can. You've already re-installed the game and it still does not work so don't re-install until we've got a clear shot of what is happening

[Madeira]

1) Answered

2) Antialiasing 6. Have tried this on all settings from 1 to 6, no change. HDR always off because it causes way too much "bloom" effect when on. Bloom off, for same reason. Screen resolution 1024x768. Have tried higher and lower (including default settings), but no change. *

3) No idea what video card temperature is, but it is quite cool out this morning and window open. WoW runs just fine all throughout this problem.

 

* prior to this problem my best (and prefered) video settings were "Ultra High" and then turn off HDR and bloom, then set antialiasing to 6. Have played around all over that screen now, to no effect

[MasterAub]

1) Answered

2) Antialiasing 6. Have tried this on all settings from 1 to 6, no change. HDR always off because it causes way too much "bloom" effect when on. Bloom off, for same reason. Screen resolution 1024x768. Have tried higher and lower (including default settings), but no change. *

3) No idea what video card temperature is, but it is quite cool out this morning and window open. WoW runs just fine all throughout this problem.

 

* prior to this problem my best (and prefered) video settings were "Ultra High" and then turn off HDR and bloom, then set antialiasing to 6. Have played around all over that screen now, to no effect

Ok thanks so just to summarize

1) you've already re-installed the game => no change

2) you've already unchecked all mods => no change

3) you've installed the latest driver for you video card => no change

4) you've got the latest patch installed which is 1.2.416 => no change

5) you've played arround with the video setting => no change

 

Ok I need a screenshot...post a screenshot. I need to see exactly what you are talking about...

[bben46]

Your problem sounds just like a video board heat problem. I am not familiar with your card, but if it has a fan, make sure the fan is running and is not clogged up with dust before proceding.

 

When Oblivion is uninstalled, it leaves behind quite a bit of stuff that will be picked up by the new installation, such as saves, mods and some hard to get rid of entries in the registry. I haven't seen any problems related to the left over registry entries, and I do not recommend editing your registry unless you know what you are doing. I have a help file on uninstalling and reinstalling. Here is the text from that.

 

When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling.

 

It does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. I recommend that you go ahead and delete them, then re download and install the newest versions of them again later.

 

I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information.

 

Uninstalling Oblivion

 

My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be thae same.

 

For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recomend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Program files\Bethesda Softewrks. Name it Old Files. So it will be C:\Program Files\Bethesda softworks\Old files.

 

Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file.

 

Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall.

 

After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion.

 

This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to erase the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder.

 

This would also be a good time to do a file clean up and defragment your hard drive.

 

If you are worried about the registry entries that were left behind. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html

 

 

Now to Reinstall.

 

Again using the original CD, install Oblivion.

 

Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized.

 

If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part.

 

Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included.

 

Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash.

 

NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk.

 

If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English

 

Now, again start the game and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks)

 

Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves.

 

Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder.

 

Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder

 

To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file.

 

DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem.

 

If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can rename the files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again.

 

Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished.

 

Post your comments here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/TheStormRavenLibrary/forum/236320/

[Madeira]

Ok I need a screenshot...post a screenshot. I need to see exactly what you are talking about...

How do I take a screen shot? Where is it saved?

 

Colour me stupid, but I cannot get a screenshot. I changed bAllowScreenShot from =0 to =1 in both Oblivion ini and Oblivion_default ini files. It either does not work or I cannot find.

 

P.S. Have gone this far, and backed up everything, very tempted to do a clean install after uninstall and deleting the entire oblivion file and my games/oblivion file. I have not changed anything in the games/oblivion file since the problem began (unless reinstalling does that automatically)

[MasterAub]

Ok I need a screenshot...post a screenshot. I need to see exactly what you are talking about...

How do I take a screen shot? Where is it saved?

 

Colour me stupid, but I cannot get a screenshot. I changed bAllowScreenShot from =0 to =1 in both Oblivion ini and Oblivion_default ini files. It either does not work or I cannot find.

 

P.S. Have gone this far, and backed up everything, very tempted to do a clean install after uninstall and deleting the entire oblivion file and my games/oblivion file. I have not changed anything in the games/oblivion file since the problem began (unless reinstalling does that automatically)

If your antialiasing is on, screenshot will not work...so tick it off...then press the print screen key...the screen should be save in a bmp format in your Oblivion/data folder.

 

As far as reinstall is concerned the procedure from bben46 is the most pristine I have ever read...So when you do re-install I strongly suggest you follow his procedure.

Also I fear as bben46 it's a video card problem (over heating probably) so check for the dust on the video card Fan.

In any case I need to see the screenshot to make sure I have not overlook anything simple.