Fallout New Vegas audio lag/stutter/fps drop problem.

[DaHALOSHOCK]

For the last year and a half i have been having this strange fps drop issue and none of a performance mods and fixes, fixes it i have no clue what is doing it. but i do know i don't get the problem in fallout 3 or oblivion just new vegas.

eg. (no mods installed, running at 75 fps before the stutter/fps drop which drops it to 17 fps then right back to 75,) (( FPS is now caped to 15 to 59 fps and the issue persists ))

(the problem is show twice in the video at the same time.)

it doesn't just effect the ambient audio it also effect combat music which can get so bad it hardlocks the game for a few min before becoming playable, this being said i don't know if its an audio problem.

I have a I7-7700k quad core 4.20ghz and a gtx 1080 msi motherboard and 16 gig ram on a 2 terabyte HHD with 631 gig free.

[dubiousintent]

Re: Stuttering or "micro-stutters". All visual stuttering problems are caused by the video stream having to wait for the "art assets" required to render the display OR the game writing something to disk (such as a save game file or logging). Mostly these are due to the hard disk drive being orders of magnitude slower than VRAM, with System RAM (e.g. "ENBoost") and "solid state drives" (SSDs) being in between. Keep in mind that this game was designed for older PC and XBox console systems, and it is now possible for your new "latest and greatest" gaming machine to be faster than it can handle. There are internal design choices that cannot be overcome. The "video pipeline" has always been prone to problems. The following are "mitigations" that have been found to help some people.

Please see the following entries under the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section in the wiki Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide if you haven't already.
* 'Issue: "Full screen mode" exhibits CTDs and stutters or micro-stutters'
* 'Issue: Lag or "micro stutters" even with "New Vegas Stutter Remover" installed'
* 'Issue: Win10 Screen tearing in "Borderless Windowed Mode"'
* 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu' for other settings that can indirectly affect micro-stutter.
* There are also some NVSR configuration suggestions under the 'Issue: Game in slow motion' and entries.
* The 'Issue: What's with these Solid Green billboard signs in the distance (LOD)?' entry under the 'Solutions to Mesh (Red "!" icon) or Texture (solid color) problems' section can also help if your problems started after you installed VWD/LOD texture packages.
* If you are using CASM or some similar "auto-save" mod to manage your save game files (recommended), try increasing the "time between saves" set in the "save frequency"; and reducing the number of occasions it saves to the minimum (e.g. disable most "Autosave Events" in CASM) and see how that impacts the game seeming to freeze temporarily.
* If you have "NVSE logging" enabled (see the 'Checklist Item #4' entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide), disable it until actually needed.

Reading from or writing to disk for any reason is the slowest thing the game does.

The size of your image files also has an impact. Larger/higher resolution is not always "better". Please see the wiki "Display resolution versus Image Size" article.

As you can see, there are a number of things that can underlie your problem. If one of these doesn't fix it, I would be interested to hear about any eventual solution that does.

For your audio issues: Please see the 'Issue: Ambient music skips/jitters/hiccups/pops/stutters' entry under the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

-Dubious-

[DaHALOSHOCK]

Re: Stuttering or "micro-stutters". All visual stuttering problems are caused by the video stream having to wait for the "art assets" required to render the display OR the game writing something to disk (such as a save game file or logging). Mostly these are due to the hard disk drive being orders of magnitude slower than VRAM, with System RAM (e.g. "ENBoost") and "solid state drives" (SSDs) being in between. Keep in mind that this game was designed for older PC and XBox console systems, and it is now possible for your new "latest and greatest" gaming machine to be faster than it can handle. There are internal design choices that cannot be overcome. The "video pipeline" has always been prone to problems. The following are "mitigations" that have been found to help some people.

 

Please see the following entries under the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section in the wiki Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide if you haven't already.

* 'Issue: "Full screen mode" exhibits CTDs and stutters or micro-stutters'

* 'Issue: Lag or "micro stutters" even with "New Vegas Stutter Remover" installed'

* 'Issue: Win10 Screen tearing in "Borderless Windowed Mode"'

* 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu' for other settings that can indirectly affect micro-stutter.

* There are also some NVSR configuration suggestions under the 'Issue: Game in slow motion' and entries.

* The 'Issue: What's with these Solid Green billboard signs in the distance (LOD)?' entry under the 'Solutions to Mesh (Red "!" icon) or Texture (solid color) problems' section can also help if your problems started after you installed VWD/LOD texture packages.

* If you are using CASM or some similar "auto-save" mod to manage your save game files (recommended), try increasing the "time between saves" set in the "save frequency"; and reducing the number of occasions it saves to the minimum (e.g. disable most "Autosave Events" in CASM) and see how that impacts the game seeming to freeze temporarily.

* If you have "NVSE logging" enabled (see the 'Checklist Item #4' entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide), disable it until actually needed.

 

Reading from or writing to disk for any reason is the slowest thing the game does.

 

The size of your image files also has an impact. Larger/higher resolution is not always "better". Please see the wiki "Display resolution versus Image Size" article.

 

As you can see, there are a number of things that can underlie your problem. If one of these doesn't fix it, I would be interested to hear about any eventual solution that does.

 

For your audio issues: Please see the 'Issue: Ambient music skips/jitters/hiccups/pops/stutters' entry under the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article.

 

-Dubious-

 

I have gone through all of the listed fixes you have suggested and none of them have helped. also the problem is there with nvsr, fnv4g and ENBboost installed. limiting fps does nothing and my hard drive was only 3% fraged and that also did not fix this thing.

[DaHALOSHOCK]

i did try downloading and installing the ffdshow (Combined-Community-Codec-Pack-2015-10-18 32bit) but i have no clue what it is or does or if i even installed it correctly or if i needed to change any of the settings.

[dubiousintent]

Audio stuttering is basically the same cause as video stuttering: interruptions to the feed. The CCCPack installs like any other program and there is nothing else for you to do. It provides possible codecs that some audio might have needed so it doesn't spend time searching for an alternative.

 

If this problem only occurs with FNV and not any other games, then I can only suggest something in your current mod list or INI configuration is the underlying cause. If you are not seeing any stabilization of FPS with those changes to NVSR and the INI, then I don't have any idea where else to affect it. If it actually worked correctly previously with FNV and then quit, I would look into a hardware problem such as dust in the box.

 

Please provide ALL the information requested in the wiki "How to ask for help" article. Don't forget to identify things that do not appear in the "load order", such as if you are using the FNV4GB Patch, NVSE and it's related plugins, texture replacements (specifically their larger image sizes: 1024x1024, etc.), and "post-processors" like ENB or SweetFX. Perhaps something is a known conflict.

* See "How to markup images (etc) in forum posts and comments" article for how to use "Spoiler tags".

Otherwise if we don't see anything in your mod list, as painful as it will be, those are the only solutions I know of and you might need to completely re-install FNV from scratch, follow the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article and those instructions provided earlier and TEST each mod one at a time.

 

-Dubious-

[DaHALOSHOCK]

What are the possible Ini Config setting that could cause this issue and what would i need to do to fix it? and what resolution settings should i be running the game at on my 1920 - 1080 mon? and i'm not using any texture replacers. the games stock standard except for FNV4G, NVSE, NVSR and a mod to stop the dlc pop up ok boxes when i start a new game to test if the problem is still there. but seeing as i have had the problem long before i even used any of those i can count them out. also what kind of setting should i change in NVSR to try and dampen this audio stutter.

[dubiousintent]

Which issue? You have both video and audio problems and they are separate issues.

 

You only want to try to manage FPS settings in one location (e.g. NVSR or INI, but not both). Set any others to "0" or "disabled". Any changes you make to one INI file in your "Users" folder should also be made to the other (if present in that file).

 

Audio is not affected by NVSR. It's all handled by Windows drivers. The game just tells the system to play a given sound file and Windows takes it over. Other than missing codecs, all you can do is check that your DirectX audio is working correctly. Run the DXDiag program, and ensure that you don't have anything else running in the background that is competing for the audio system ... such as the "Steam Overlay" (separate function/feature from the "Steam Client") or other streaming or chat system.

 

If you aren't using any texture replacements (to include object re-textures) then the "Launcher" hardware detection would have sized the image quality to match your video card (probably "Ultra High"). 1920x1080 is a standard, supported resolution. FYI: Base image size in the game is 512x512 pixels. Unless this is a laptop or you have less than 1GB of VRAM (both important information), you should be able to use 1024x1024 pixel images. More than that is not going to be really noticeable on that monitor (same resolution as I use).

 

That is a very minimal load order. You should definitely not be having the problems reported. I would say you have probably managed to get things into a tangled state trying to resolve issues over the last year and a half. Suggest you rename your existing "Users" INI files, "verify local files", re-run the "Launcher" and let it rebuild them. Then install the 'Essentials for Getting Started' and 'Towards Game Stability' sections from the "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article, tweak according to the recommended settings for each added mod, and test with a "New Game" according to the 'Testing' section.

 

-Dubious-

[dubiousintent]

While I dislike double posting after myself, wanted to ensure you see that I just updated the 'Issue: Ambient music skips/jitters/hiccups/pops/stutters' entry under the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article with some new information pertinent to your audio (and possibly performance) problems.

 

-Dubious-

[DaHALOSHOCK]

yes i saw thank you. now i will try and work out how do all this while banging my head on my desk as i redownload the 76 beta again

[DaHALOSHOCK]

So my Fallout.ini file for new vegas won't save any changes i make to it but the falloutPrefs ini file will. the moment the game launches the fallout.ini file resets to default. Is that normal? also would changing bMultiThreadAudio=0 to bMultiThreadAudio=1 fix my problem at all?